Max Aarons

[mark87]

Surprised no one has mentioned the video of he and Son after the game. I don’t think there’s anything in this at all but I know some like to speculate.

Son: "Well done, see you soon"

How the hell have Norwich managed to prise Sonny away from us?

 

[Darren2142]

Aarons looks a real talent, and would be a great buy, then again I also would like to see how Tanganga plays at RB in the PL before we spend on another RB , his Middlesbrough performance was very good.

 

[matty74]

Aarons looks a real talent, and would be a great buy, then again I also would like to see how Tanganga plays at RB in the PL before we spend on another RB , his Middlesbrough performance was very good.

Tanganga is a central defender that’s how he’s come through our ranks suggesting he should be groomed as a full back may hinder his progress . There’s a reason why he’s played as a central defender through his youth career. One good game against a mid table championship side shouldn’t side trek his future

 

[Darren2142]

Tanganga is a central defender that’s how he’s come through our ranks suggesting he should be groomed as a full back may hinder his progress . There’s a reason why he’s played as a central defender through his youth career. One good game against a mid table championship side shouldn’t side trek his future

I know and agree mate, he's played LCB mostly in the youths, but he's also played RB aswell for the youths and England youths, it also seems Jose feels he could do a job there. Maybe if he can be trusted at RB short term or RB cover, we can use funds elsewhere on areas of more priority, tbh im not sure we are in for a RB, but yeah if we are Arrons would be my top pick

 

[Roynie]

Tanganga is a central defender that’s how he’s come through our ranks suggesting he should be groomed as a full back may hinder his progress . There’s a reason why he’s played as a central defender through his youth career. One good game against a mid table championship side shouldn’t side trek his future

I know and agree mate, he's played LCB mostly in the youths, but he's also played RB aswell for the youths and England youths, it also seems Jose feels he could do a job there. Maybe if he can be trusted at RB short term or RB cover, we can use funds elsewhere on areas of more priority, tbh im not sure we are in for a RB, but yeah if we are Arrons would be my top pick

Maybe he would develop better for playing RB now rather than wait for a slot at CB. The experience playing at Prem level would be great for his development.

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

Apologies if already posted, good interview with Norwich's DOF from last year which helps understand their business model, and likely rationale for selling on Aarons etc.

Interesting how the PL money gets swallowed up (much like CL money).

Seems clear they always intended to ring fence the PL money from fees and wages - and instead use it to pay down debt on infrastructure projects like the academy, whilst giving them a healthier balance sheet to plan long term given how close to the wind they sailed with their finances last year.

Pretty clear why they won't sell in January - they don't need to, and would probably rather re-invest that money in the summer when they can buy players on more flexible contracts, and protect their liabilities on the wage bill which is where QPR etc come unstuck.

Well run club, play good stuff, good luck to them I say.

City are in the money – but the bills just got a lot bigger

If there is one thing that promotion has brought Norwich City it is – through no fault of their own – a need to explain that the...

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City were able to watch from a distance as four teams battled their way through the play-offs to the ultimate celebration the nerve-shredding exercise brings to the winner - success at Wembley. And with it comes the 'ballpark' figures of just what that is worth to the winner - take your pick from £140m to anything up to £200m, depending on the media channel of your choice.

It all sounds grand, but the real story is very different: Norwich City's sporting director knows only too well, given he is the man who has to balance the books. And at City, that is something that runs through the club's DNA: self-sufficiency is key.

"Fundamentally the figures (in region of £170m) are pretty close, but they come to you over three years," he explained.

"By getting there you guarantee your Premier League money and then your year two parachute and year three parachute, assuming that you get relegated, that's locked in, but over three years.

"The thing that people forget is that 80 percent of the players have uplifts in their contracts, so straight away our wage bill will jump considerably - and well deserved, by the way.

"Then there is also the bonus to be paid to the players who got us there, and again well deserved, and the staff. You've also got the contingency payment of players we bought and that have been bought previously, even as far back as four years ago.

"You'll have it in some of the transfer dealings that 'when the club is promoted to the Premier League you'll get X', so when you put all that together you have a big chunk of money which goes out straight away, which you don't even see.

"You don't begrudge paying it because you've achieved promotion."

The reality is all there: promotion is fantastic, but the hard work doesn't stop. City have a philosophy and Webber is determined to stick with that, come what may.

"We know this club is self-funding, it's not just become that, it's always been that, so it's not a surprise then if you get problems from over-spending," he said.

"It's different if you've got an owner who's ploughing in money and then suddenly they have a sulk and don't want to spend money any more and you're like 'oh my god, we've planned that', then it's nobody's fault.

"When it comes to that situation where you know that and you can't take that risk, we know that and if people don't like that, I don't really care, because I know what it's taken us to get back on an even keel.

"It's hard because I would never want to put somebody through that, and if that means we don't spend the money that people think we need to stay in the league, I'll take that and say that the club is in a much healthier state than it was and that's the most important thing."

If some of the costs of promotion are 'invisible', one of City's big achievements in Webber's short time at the helm is there in bricks and mortar at the Colney training centre, which has undergone a massive transformation. Some of the funding came through a successful £5m bond scheme with promotion enabling City to repay investors. It's a facility which can stand for ever as a product of City's amazing 2018-19 season.

"We've paid the bond back as well, which is a considerable amount of money, to pay for our facility - which again was great to be able to pay that because we've genuinely got something to show for that promotion," said Webber.

"Whatever happens in the future now to any of us who have been part of this, we can always look back and say we transformed the training ground as a self-funding club. Someone didn't come and pay that for us, we had to be creative with how we did it and we achieved it together, so that's brilliant.

"So straight away so much money goes and no doubt when we announce our accounts towards the AGM in November, this promotion will end up meaning we've lost a lot of money for this year.

"It ends up balancing itself because we'll make a load of money for this year, that's just a fact."

 

[muppetman]

Apologies if already posted, good interview with Norwich's DOF from last year which helps understand their business model, and likely rationale for selling on Aarons etc.

Interesting how the PL money gets swallowed up (much like CL money).

Seems clear they always intended to ring fence the PL money from fees and wages - and instead use it to pay down debt on infrastructure projects like the academy, whilst giving them a healthier balance sheet to plan long term given how close to the wind they sailed with their finances last year.

Pretty clear why they won't sell in January - they don't need to, and would probably rather re-invest that money in the summer when they can buy players on more flexible contracts, and protect their liabilities on the wage bill which is where QPR etc come unstuck.

Well run club, play good stuff, good luck to them I say.

City are in the money – but the bills just got a lot bigger

If there is one thing that promotion has brought Norwich City it is – through no fault of their own – a need to explain that the...

www.edp24.co.uk

City were able to watch from a distance as four teams battled their way through the play-offs to the ultimate celebration the nerve-shredding exercise brings to the winner - success at Wembley. And with it comes the 'ballpark' figures of just what that is worth to the winner - take your pick from £140m to anything up to £200m, depending on the media channel of your choice.

It all sounds grand, but the real story is very different: Norwich City's sporting director knows only too well, given he is the man who has to balance the books. And at City, that is something that runs through the club's DNA: self-sufficiency is key.

"Fundamentally the figures (in region of £170m) are pretty close, but they come to you over three years," he explained.

"By getting there you guarantee your Premier League money and then your year two parachute and year three parachute, assuming that you get relegated, that's locked in, but over three years.

"The thing that people forget is that 80 percent of the players have uplifts in their contracts, so straight away our wage bill will jump considerably - and well deserved, by the way.

"Then there is also the bonus to be paid to the players who got us there, and again well deserved, and the staff. You've also got the contingency payment of players we bought and that have been bought previously, even as far back as four years ago.

"You'll have it in some of the transfer dealings that 'when the club is promoted to the Premier League you'll get X', so when you put all that together you have a big chunk of money which goes out straight away, which you don't even see.

"You don't begrudge paying it because you've achieved promotion."

The reality is all there: promotion is fantastic, but the hard work doesn't stop. City have a philosophy and Webber is determined to stick with that, come what may.

"We know this club is self-funding, it's not just become that, it's always been that, so it's not a surprise then if you get problems from over-spending," he said.

"It's different if you've got an owner who's ploughing in money and then suddenly they have a sulk and don't want to spend money any more and you're like 'oh my god, we've planned that', then it's nobody's fault.

"When it comes to that situation where you know that and you can't take that risk, we know that and if people don't like that, I don't really care, because I know what it's taken us to get back on an even keel.

"It's hard because I would never want to put somebody through that, and if that means we don't spend the money that people think we need to stay in the league, I'll take that and say that the club is in a much healthier state than it was and that's the most important thing."

If some of the costs of promotion are 'invisible', one of City's big achievements in Webber's short time at the helm is there in bricks and mortar at the Colney training centre, which has undergone a massive transformation. Some of the funding came through a successful £5m bond scheme with promotion enabling City to repay investors. It's a facility which can stand for ever as a product of City's amazing 2018-19 season.

"We've paid the bond back as well, which is a considerable amount of money, to pay for our facility - which again was great to be able to pay that because we've genuinely got something to show for that promotion," said Webber.

"Whatever happens in the future now to any of us who have been part of this, we can always look back and say we transformed the training ground as a self-funding club. Someone didn't come and pay that for us, we had to be creative with how we did it and we achieved it together, so that's brilliant.

"So straight away so much money goes and no doubt when we announce our accounts towards the AGM in November, this promotion will end up meaning we've lost a lot of money for this year.

"It ends up balancing itself because we'll make a load of money for this year, that's just a fact."

Really good read and fair play to them, always seemed a sensible, well run sort of club.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Norwich is a really weird side for me. They have quite a few players that seem like they could be at bigger clubs: Pukki, Cantwell, Buendia, Aarons, Lewis, Godfrey. Yet, despite that they are going to be relegated. Obviously their defense is the issue and in part their naivety at times with their tactics. Just don't know if I can recall a team in recent years that is so bad in regards to their standing in the table that also has as much really nice talent in the squad.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

If we have managed to do a deal now for the summer I think it's great businesses. I was a bit unsure but after the last game I'm really impressed with him.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Norwich is a really weird side for me. They have quite a few players that seem like they could be at bigger clubs: Pukki, Cantwell, Buendia, Aarons, Lewis, Godfrey. Yet, despite that they are going to be relegated. Obviously their defense is the issue and in part their naivety at times with their tactics. Just don't know if I can recall a team in recent years that is so bad in regards to their standing in the table that also has as much really nice talent in the squad.

Young players = inconsistency.

 

[C0YS]

Norwich is a really weird side for me. They have quite a few players that seem like they could be at bigger clubs: Pukki, Cantwell, Buendia, Aarons, Lewis, Godfrey. Yet, despite that they are going to be relegated. Obviously their defense is the issue and in part their naivety at times with their tactics. Just don't know if I can recall a team in recent years that is so bad in regards to their standing in the table that also has as much really nice talent in the squad.

They are also all young and are mostly being courted for potential.

 

[Snarfalicious]

If we have managed to do a deal now for the summer I think it's great businesses. I was a bit unsure but after the last game I'm really impressed with him.

I agree, Aarons and Aurier suddenly feels like a position of strength. Add in to that Tanganga's ability that he's shown there, feel like we have a great blend of abilities along with youth.

 

[cider spurs]

Snaffle their LB Lewis also. Well and truly sorted in the fullback department.

 

[$hoguN]

the kid looks like a real talent. You would expect us try to nab him, Ferguson or Bogle. I wonder which one we will go though

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Norwich is a really weird side for me. They have quite a few players that seem like they could be at bigger clubs: Pukki, Cantwell, Buendia, Aarons, Lewis, Godfrey. Yet, despite that they are going to be relegated. Obviously their defense is the issue and in part their naivety at times with their tactics. Just don't know if I can recall a team in recent years that is so bad in regards to their standing in the table that also has as much really nice talent in the squad.

Newcastle had Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Mitrovic etc.

 

[VegasII]

Norwich is a really weird side for me. They have quite a few players that seem like they could be at bigger clubs: Pukki, Cantwell, Buendia, Aarons, Lewis, Godfrey. Yet, despite that they are going to be relegated. Obviously their defense is the issue and in part their naivety at times with their tactics. Just don't know if I can recall a team in recent years that is so bad in regards to their standing in the table that also has as much really nice talent in the squad.

I suspect those players and the manager (prob to a lower level prem side) will all move on in the summer.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Young players = inconsistency.

I totally agree and that's going to be a part of it. But Farke just sets them up in a way that is exacerbating that downfalls of playing a young side. Playing out from the back, uber attacking, not really setting them up in a way to withstand the open play that they often find themselves in. Also probably doesn't help that some of the older players are complete garbage and without a lot of PL experience (except Krul).

 

[Snarfalicious]

Newcastle had Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Mitrovic etc.

That's not a bad comparison. Not quite the amount of players, but I do also recall when Wijnaldum went to Liverpool and Sissoko went to us, there was a lot of 'meh' going around. Think if you look at those players from Norwich, a majority of teams would love to have at least a couple of those players.

 

[razzmaster]

Norwich is a really weird side for me. They have quite a few players that seem like they could be at bigger clubs: Pukki, Cantwell, Buendia, Aarons, Lewis, Godfrey. Yet, despite that they are going to be relegated. Obviously their defense is the issue and in part their naivety at times with their tactics. Just don't know if I can recall a team in recent years that is so bad in regards to their standing in the table that also has as much really nice talent in the squad.

I think injuries have screwed them this season, they have been really unlucky.

 

[geordiespur]

Really good read and fair play to them, always seemed a sensible, well run sort of club.

not always true. Would have gone bust if they hadn’t sold Madison