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Drexl

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Yeah it's always a risk, but there's also a reason van Gaal is interested in this kid. That one WC substitute's appearance is not the sole reason he's seeing links around Europe.

With our limited budget I just think he is too big a risk

He would not come cheap and imho is just not proven enough to throw huge chunk of our budget at him

Someone like Milner while less glamourous would cost around 8-10m and is proven on both left and right
 

DaSpurs

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With our limited budget I just think he is too big a risk

He would not come cheap and imho is just not proven enough to throw huge chunk of our budget at him

Someone like Milner while less glamourous would cost around 8-10m and is proven on both left and right

Yeah I agree at his price I'd rather go for Milner at that price or Kono's release clause. I do think Milner would actually work very well in a high intensity, high pressing system; and his experience/leadership would be immensely appreciated in our young squad. He takes incredible care of his body (doesn't drink at all), so could likely give at least another four years of top quality play. Also think he would do quite well centrally under Poch, as well as wide.

That having been said though, I think I'd still take Kono for his advantages at his release clause.
 

HoltbiusMac

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With our limited budget I just think he is too big a risk

He would not come cheap and imho is just not proven enough to throw huge chunk of our budget at him

Someone like Milner while less glamourous would cost around 8-10m and is proven on both left and right

Factor in their likely respective wages though and I bet there wouldn't be much between the cost of the two deals.
 

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Yeah I agree at his price I'd rather go for Milner at that price or Kono's release clause. I do think Milner would actually work very well in a high intensity, high pressing system; and his experience/leadership would be immensely appreciated in our young squad. He takes incredible care of his body (doesn't drink at all), so could likely give at least another four years of top quality play. Also think he would do quite well centrally under Poch, as well as wide.

That having been said though, I think I'd still take Kono for his advantages at his release clause.

If it is true that LVG has a £150m-200m budget then he can afford a few shots in the dark and risky gambles, we cant so i would deffo pass on Depay? Milner would be ideal for us and Kono is a cracking player
 

Drexl

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Factor in their likely respective wages though and I bet there wouldn't be much between the cost of the two deals.

With Milner though you know you are going to get proven premiership quality and a 'leader' given all his experience
 

DaSpurs

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Factor in their likely respective wages though and I bet there wouldn't be much between the cost of the two deals.

You're right, it does bring it closer (if we were to match his salary at City), but still several mil separation and Milner would guarantee 4-5 years of Prem quality unlike Depay would.
 

DaSpurs

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If it is true that LVG has a £150m-200m budget then he can afford a few shots in the dark and risky gambles, we cant so i would deffo pass on Depay? Milner would be ideal for us and Kono is a cracking player

I still think Man U would be idiots to pursue an expensive LW at the moment unless they unload Kagawa, but hey by all means I support it. If it takes them out of the market for Kono, then I'd be delighted by that proposition.
 

shelfboy68

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Isnt Milner the same as all the England players who have failed miserably in brasil that is Good on effort and endeavour but poor on technique and end product plus he will be overpriced.
 

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Isnt Milner the same as all the England players who have failed miserably in brasil that is Good on effort and endeavour but poor on technique and end product plus he will be overpriced.

If that is our mentality lets just buy as many costa ricans as we can ;)
 

DaSpurs

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Isnt Milner the same as all the England players who have failed miserably in brasil that is Good on effort and endeavour but poor on technique and end product plus he will be overpriced.

I don't think City would sell him for anything north of 10 mil, and we could likely coax him down somewhat on his salary conceding he wouldn't find a better team than us. He honestly couldn't have done any worse than the other options at winger for England in the two games, and he probably would've driven forward and challenged more than Gerrard and Henderson.
 

HoltbiusMac

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With Milner though you know you are going to get proven premiership quality and a 'leader' given all his experience

Proven average quality. I don't mind Milner, he's a fine player but that's it a consistent 7 rarely above and rarely below. Depay could crash and burn and amount to nothing but he has potential to be far more than Milner has ever been. Depends whether you want a gamble rather than there being a clear choice.
 

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Isnt Milner the same as all the England players who have failed miserably in brasil that is Good on effort and endeavour but poor on technique and end product plus he will be overpriced.
We have to think about the home grown player rule though, unfortunately for some posters on here, we HAVE to sign English players now and again. Milner is not a bad shout TBH, but right now I think we need to shift a few players because our squad is pretty big, and Poch will need to bring in 2-3 players to stamp his authority on the squad.
 

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Proven average quality. I don't mind Milner, he's a fine player but that's it a consistent 7 rarely above and rarely below. Depay could crash and burn and amount to nothing but he has potential to be far more than Milner has ever been. Depends whether you want a gamble rather than there being a clear choice.

I agree with this, but I think there are options of quality available for considerably less than what PSV will want for Depay and especially if they've already received contact from Man U.
 

HoltbiusMac

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I agree with this, but I think there are options of quality available for considerably less than what PSV will want for Depay and especially if they've already received contact from Man U.

Probably right. £17m on Depay is probably nuts, Konoplyanka or Remy to play LW would be my preferences.
 

shelfboy68

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We have to think about the home grown player rule though, unfortunately for some posters on here, we HAVE to sign English players now and again. Milner is not a bad shout TBH, but right now I think we need to shift a few players because our squad is pretty big, and Poch will need to bring in 2-3 players to stamp his authority on the squad.

Of course i understand the new manager will want to make his mark.
 

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We need goals from the wing. Why can't people understand that? We got virtually nothing from Lennon and Townsend this last season, and Milner does not provide goals or creativity either. Depay, Kono, Remy all do, which is why we should go for them.

If you want a winger who is English, then go for Adam Johnson. He actually has end product. The lack of English "leadership" is not why the team finished 6th last season. It had largely to do with the utter mediocrity of homegrown players (at least our 7 new signings chipped in with 35 goals and 25 assists this past season).
 

DaSpurs

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We need goals from the wing. Why can't people understand that? We got virtually nothing from Lennon and Townsend this last season, and Milner does not provide goals or creativity either. Depay, Kono, Remy all do, which is why we should go for them.

If you want a winger who is English, then go for Adam Johnson. He actually has end product. The lack of English "leadership" is not why the team finished 6th last season. It had largely to do with the utter mediocrity of homegrown players (at least our 7 new signings chipped in with 35 goals and 25 assists this past season).

While I do want Kono for that LW spot, tbf we can't be sure Kono or Depay can provide goals in the Prem.

While there were a slew of factors that caused our problems last season, the inability to keep heads high due to a lack of a genuine leader on the pitch was certainly a prevalent inclusion among those factors.
 
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