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glacierSpurs

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Am so sick of this season's mentality when last season was built with so much toughness. Enough of those talks of the bigger clubs falling last season so we were where we were FFS. We scored loads and defended superbly. We did not see Liverfool capitalising on that last season or any strong showing in the few seasons before, so by logic they must be a small club? This season they are firing again and yet they are continuously called a big club?! Going with the flow? WTF?

For the bad games we played, so many reasons were being put into the fact we bought wrongly, had too many injuries, we had European commitment etc etc. Even the press, the manager, and the fans seem to all give these excuses to this club that all these are the reasons for our poor showing so far this season. But really??

Take out the point tally and some will say we are not far off form last season; we had great possession stats; we had good unbeaten records. Some will say we cannot expect to steamroll every team comes our path. Some says we cannot take the team for granted and assume winning every game with good performance is second-nature. Some says we limit to chelscum to just a 2-1 victory is what they will take and no shame in that. Some says their bench is holly-molly world class than us, but everyone knows there can only be 3 subs, and we made 2 in the likes of Dutch league golden boot and Lige 1 speedster. VS that with Willian, Oscar and Ivanovic, are we really miles apart? I know some will say yes, but beginning of the season, Janssen and GKN were bloody good prospect signings for many people.

Excuses. All these are excuses from top to bottom. It breeds into the mentality of the club and players all failures are OK, so long as we tried. Yes, of course it is. But at the back of all bad results and performance, one got to wonder did we really try?? CL showing and uninspiring games. It is not even on hindsight anymore. Almost everyone seems to only put in the bare minimum to show at least some effort, but are those really enough? We all knew the answer very clearly.

I thought we finally managed to shake off the tag of being the 5th-6th team from last season showing by being so fit, so energetic and aggressive. Being top 3-4 should always be the mantra to build on it, because we are expanding as a club, building an excellent stadium in the coming year or two. We are branding ourselves as a big club, yet performance and mentality we are not showing for it this season, because of all these excuses where people will always retreat to for some solace in bad times presumably of so much hurt inflicted over the years with high expectations. This ghost of the past needs to be exorcised with stronger winning will from the club and higher expectations through and through from the fans to wanna be a consistent top-4 club regardless of our transfers, injuries, schedule etc. We can if we want, as the 1st half against chelscum showed. Hence there should really be no falling back to the category of being 5th or 6th and think it is ok as we are developing. Now we are sustaining as a top 3-4 club.
 

Trix

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Confidence is our biggest issue ATM. Winning becomes a habit, just as not losing games seemed to have up until yesterday.

Just look at Leicester to see what can be achieved from building up a head of steam. They had a much more difficult start this time round and as such have not been able to build any momentum.
 

Trix

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Confidence is our biggest issue ATM. Winning becomes a habit, just as not losing games seemed to have up until yesterday.

Just look at Leicester to see what can be achieved from building up a head of steam. They had a much more difficult start this time round and as such have not been able to build any momentum.

We have a fairly good December fixture wise, so hopefully we can start getting back into that winning habit.
 

DIEHARD

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December key month of the season for us.

The rules stay the same though unfortunately i.e. We need to score more than the opposition to win a game... I wish they just give us a one goal head start... We may still lose but atleast it would make for a more entertaining game
 

shelfboy68

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Confidence is our biggest issue ATM. Winning becomes a habit, just as not losing games seemed to have up until yesterday.

Just look at Leicester to see what can be achieved from building up a head of steam. They had a much more difficult start this time round and as such have not been able to build any momentum.

Winning is definitely a good habit to have although after we beat city I don't think most of us would envisage going nearly 2 months with only one win against a team fourth from bottom.
December is as you say an important month to pick up points and wins for confidence building, if of course we can create and find the target.
 

sunnydelight786

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I think we miss an Edgar Davids type character on the pitch.
NO we miss a winning mentality both on & off the pitch. A excuse culture exists amongst our support for every failure.
After cfc equalised everyone in the ground last night knew the inevitable was going to happen. We have a legends mentality on the pitch and that showed again last night. Every single question that has been asked of this team it's bottled the answer*.......

* Watch all the excuses rain in now for another failure.....
 

Japhet

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NO we miss a winning mentality both on & off the pitch. A excuse culture exists amongst our support for every failure.
After cfc equalised everyone in the ground last night knew the inevitable was going to happen. We have a legends mentality on the pitch and that showed again last night. Every single question that has been asked of this team it's bottled the answer*.......

* Watch all the excuses rain in now for another failure.....


Is it an excuse to say that they have better, more experienced players than us both on the pitch and on the bench?
 

Hazardousman

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NO we miss a winning mentality both on & off the pitch. A excuse culture exists amongst our support for every failure.
After cfc equalised everyone in the ground last night knew the inevitable was going to happen. We have a legends mentality on the pitch and that showed again last night. Every single question that has been asked of this team it's bottled the answer*.......

* Watch all the excuses rain in now for another failure.....
Impossible to disagree, after sleeping on it I just feel like the reason we are regressing from last season is that our players just aren't putting the effort in they were last season, they don't seem to care as much quite frankly and the manager seems like he has gone soft or is looking to make excuses rather than fix things.

Also, I said last night the top teams are playing better so we have reverted to where we should be but I think after considering this more, it's not a valid excuse, Liverpool have finished behind us for years, even when we had Sherwood in charge and yet they are playing better than us now, it seems like we have regressed they have progressed.

It's all feeling a little AVB right now which means one of two things, Poch needs to axe the players not pulling their weight or call them up on it or he will be in the firing line.

He needs to be ruthless, if Eriksen and company aren't playing well they need dropping and bring youth in instead, at least we know they will work their arse off, that's what brought Poch success here in the first place, problem is, they aren't "youth" anymore, they all have their fancy contracts now and the workrate has dropped, that's the issue imo.
 

sunnydelight786

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Is it an excuse to say that they have better, more experienced players than us both on the pitch and on the bench?
Do WBA, Bournemouth, Leverkusen, Leicester, etc, have better players than us? 1 win in 10 for a so called top team is a disgraceful run but hey ho we did go 13 unbeaten right :rolleyes:
Thank you for proving my point about the excuse culture btw (y)
 

Japhet

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Do WBA, Bournemouth, Leverkusen, Leicester, etc, have better players than us? 1 win in 10 for a so called top team is a disgraceful run but hey ho we did go 13 unbeaten right :rolleyes:
Thank you for proving my point about the excuse culture btw (y)


Seemed to me that the OP was as a result of the loss to Chelsea. Thought that was pretty clear from what I wrote anyway.
 

danielneeds

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NO we miss a winning mentality both on & off the pitch. A excuse culture exists amongst our support for every failure.
After cfc equalised everyone in the ground last night knew the inevitable was going to happen. We have a legends mentality on the pitch and that showed again last night. Every single question that has been asked of this team it's bottled the answer*.......

* Watch all the excuses rain in now for another failure.....
This is bullshit. Every single time we lose some arsehole says "we bottled it" on here. We're not the New Zealand rugby team, and expected to win every single game. Sometimes we will meet an opposition that plays better, and we have to deal with it.

I've seen plenty of Spurs sides with a powder puff mentality, that roll over to get their sides tickled - God the '90s were grim... But this is not one of them. We're going through a bad period, but the effort the team showed yesterday after a tough game in midweek was huge.
 

spurslenny

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Nov 24, 2006
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We are too static, too predictable, not defending well at all despite any stats anyone rolls out, and concentrating too much on keeping possession in our own half instead of taking a few chances and breaking quickly on teams.
Also sorely missing key players such as Lamela and Toby.

Such an irritating season after the promise of last season.
 

sunnydelight786

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This is bullshit. Every single time we lose some arsehole says "we bottled it" on here. We're not the New Zealand rugby team, and expected to win every single game. Sometimes we will meet an opposition that plays better, and we have to deal with it.

I've seen plenty of Spurs sides with a powder puff mentality, that roll over to get their sides tickled - God the '90s were grim... But this is not one of them. We're going through a bad period, but the effort the team showed yesterday after a tough game in midweek was huge.
Utter bollocks...... Games that mattered once we came into title race Leicester home, West Ham away, Arsenal home, Liverpool away, WBA home & Chelsea away we failed to win any of them when we had a chance to go top/cut points gap/put pressure on Leicester. Even after that we needed 1 point to finish above AFC from 2 games with 1 of them to a already relegated team we bottled.

This season again WBA away, they were on a shocking run and we coming off beating city. Win and we go top, you know the rest. 1 win in 10, and that was a fluke too, since City but the happy clapper idiots amongst our support are making excuses for it and our continual bottle jobs. Do carry on making excuses though.....
 

kitchen

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Nov 24, 2006
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We can talk about mentality all we want but with the injuries we've had we've simply had a dearth of quality.

We need better players, and more options for the squad because outside of our first 11 best players, we're just not good enough...
 

Bobbins

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May 5, 2005
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Look at the benches yesterday:

Tottenham’s six outfield substitutes had three goals and six assists in 78 Premier League games between them; Chelsea’s sextet had 100 goals and 148 assists in 794 games.

How are we supposed to compete with that?

It doesn't help that every time we have a player start to settle into the club and the league, we sell him.

I'm sick to death of the endless turnover in our squad which never seems to result in any actual improvement in either depth or the quality of the first eleven.
 
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