Message from the Chairman

[Metalhead]

I think people like you are the problem mate. Blind to the world as long as you be making bank, picking one side and sticking to it religiously regardless of right and wrong. The modern Brexit mentality of looking after yourself

I’m typically a Levy supporter but I’m balanced. He does good things and bad things, and this is a silly. It looks terrible, and the only other club to do it is Newcastle, which kind of says everything you need to know. This isn’t about finances, it’s about society at large.

I would say I’m NOT interested in the club’s finances (“there used to be a football club over there” etc). But in lieu of ever winning anything, or even threatening to anymore, all we’ve got are those sweet sweet balance sheets. Seriously kill me now. The pulling of spend has been happening quite naturally thanks

One of these days the tv rights bubble is going to pop and they’ll need the fans again and they’ll look round and they’ll all be gone except for the likes of you in your Levy t-shirts, like MAGA hats. It will be quite the sight

I've been waiting for the football bubble to burst as long as I've been waiting for the London housing bubble to.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Well then I really don’t get what your issue is with criticism?

What he is paid to do is not always of benefit to the fans. Identifying this and pointing it out should not be met with derision but regularly is.

Furlough income is 80% up to 2.5k per month, Rather than paying the other 20%, and accepting the 80% of help offered, they cut everyone’s salaries by 20%, so they pay nothing unless you earned over 3.1k a month. For Levy and the directors this will not affect them at all. For Doris, she’s 20% worse off. And all before our 200k a week footballers have lost a penny.

You can always find companies who are doing things worse, that’s not much of an ambition. But we are only the second club to do it after Newcastle. That’s the company we keep. Just like charging extortionate fees for mascot appearances (all other top 6 teams let them do it for free), most expensive tickets etc etc.

It’s cool if you want to support a bank. I’m losing interest in it. I want to support a football club and all the community aspects that used to represent

Not losing enough interest to trot out all the guff above though, eh?

That's all the top supporters do isn't it? Support banks? Those owners will want their money back one day mate.

 

[guiltyparty]

Not losing enough interest to trot out all the guff above though, eh?

That's all the top supporters do isn't it? Support banks? Those owners will want their money back one day mate.

If only it was guff.

Yep pretty much. Football is in crisis. I think some people aren’t looking because it doesn’t directly affect their club but the whole thing is rotting from the feet up.

There’s a difference between getting their money back, making a profit and making all the money in the world through questionable practices. It’s a shame people are losing sight of that and are cheering on the super clubs to take as much as they can just because they’re so enamoured with their financial standing

 

[Deleted member 27995]

If only it was guff.

Yeah but you're bothered by it. No idea why. It's not your money, is it?

 

[guiltyparty]

I've been waiting for the football bubble to burst as long as I've been waiting for the London housing bubble to.

It will happen. UK viewing figures are as low as they’ve ever been across all tournaments which is why global is where it’s at. Sky will eventually go bust as it’s losing money hand over fist but needs to pay for the football to have a USP

I saw a projection of Sky the other day that showed if they didn’t change course, they’d be cooked within a decade. And yet Sky is pretty much single handedly keeping the price up of football

fascinating times

 

[guiltyparty]

Yeah but you're bothered by it. No idea why. It's not your money, is it?

Similarly, why do people defend clubs on the money they make, or net spend? As you say, it’s not their money? Why do people quote the Deloitte power league like it means anything? We’re a global joke, the richest club to never win anything. Now with the most expensive, most trophy laden manager who also isn’t winning anything.

I’m bothered with how our club acts because, as a supporter, it reflects in a small way on me and if it flies in the face of my principles, there’s an obvious clash there. A lot of the time it does good but just because I’m a supporter doesn’t mean I won’t call them out if they’re off base. The mascot thing is one of those things. This is one of those things

I find it staggering that so many people will defend all behaviour just because it’s their club. Slippery slope, that. But hey, go back to chatting about whatever else is more important today.

 

[guiltyparty]

Aah, just when DL was ready to go full-on Peter Risdale and he might have succeeded too if that pesky Covid hadn't messed up his plans.

Bingo. Will always be an excuse. Face it - this big backing of Jose is never going to happen. Most know it really but are clinging to it secretly

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Similarly, why do people defend clubs on the money they make, or net spend? As you say, it’s not their money? Why do people quote the Deloitte power league like it means anything? We’re a global joke, the richest club to never win anything. Now with the most expensive, most trophy laden manager who also isn’t winning anything.

I’m bothered with how our club acts because, as a supporter, it reflects in a small way on me and if it flies in the face of my principles, there’s an obvious clash there. A lot of the time it does good but just because I’m a supporter doesn’t mean I won’t call them out if they’re off base. The mascot thing is one of those things. This is one of those things

I find it staggering that so many people will defend all behaviour just because it’s their club. Slippery slope, that. But hey, go back to chatting about whatever else is more important today.

I dunno, that's people, that isn't me.

The rest of that first paragraph is all over the place. We're a joke because now we're deemed rich we haven't won anything ... Who are we a joke to? (I'm curious because I genuinely don't know)

Second paragraph - imagine being owned by someone who gives you silverware yet away from the football pitch tickles your principles - you may never support the club again - or would you because we're winning things, rich and no longer a joke?

As you say, it's a slippery slope.

Banks being supported by people who turn a blind eye to things - even more so if they win. Pay your hard earned cash for the privilege or don't.

 

[Metalhead]

Bingo. Will always be an excuse. Face it - this big backing of Jose is never going to happen. Most know it really but are clinging to it secretly

You know what, a lot of people on here have said that tbf. I don't even think that Jose is naive enough to think that he'll be getting anything close to the type of budget that he had at (most of his) previous clubs but he'll definitely need money to overhaul this team. The only other option is obviously the sale of Kane to raise a meaningful amount of money.

 

[guiltyparty]

I dunno, that's people, that isn't me.

The rest of that first paragraph is all over the place. We're a joke because now we're deemed rich we haven't won anything ... Who are we a joke to? (I'm curious because I genuinely don't know)

Second paragraph - imagine being owned by someone who gives you silverware yet away from the football pitch tickles your principles - you may never support the club again - or would you because we're winning things, rich and no longer a joke?

As you say, it's a slippery slope.

Banks being supported by people who turn a blind eye to things - even more so if they win. Pay your hard earned cash for the privilege or don't.

We’re a joke to other big clubs. We’re nouveau riche, playing at being important. The lottery winners who moved in next door. Giving it the big I am while winning nothing and generally being fairly inconsequential. Not plucky and loveable like Ajax, not making a title success of our situation like Atletico, not a fan temple like Dortmund. Pulling up the ladder once we’re in the rich club despite not long ago being outside looking in.

 

[kannanmothalali]

So many people bothered about the finances of the club in here and other places.

At the rate we're going we'll be lucky to see any football in the next 6 months.

Some of you and your sense of perspective is so fucking warped you'll continue to grind your teeth over something really REALLY fucking trivial in the grander scheme of things.

If you dislike the man and the company and what he/they stand for this much, this is the exact moment to pull your money from the club to make your point rather than making useless snide remarks on a forum about the people who run the club.

Typical customer mentality

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Typical customer mentality

You're only a consumer if you buy product from the seller ...

Get off your soap box mate.

 

[jay2040]

Daniel Levy could freeze his pay forever and still never have to worry about anything again. Instead he’s pushed the costs of the 8th richest club in the world on to the government. Even my employer isn’t doing that

I imagine other clubs are waiting for the players to take a cut first as this is a hideous look and we deserve to be lambasted. And the guilt tripping about spending money on players is a lovely touch

We have become a bank with a football club on the side. And some people on here seem to like supporting a bank

Why should he freeze his pay for ever ? He has achieved what he has own his own merits and nothing to indicate he was the cause of the virus!

 

[Deleted member 27995]

We’re a joke to other big clubs. We’re nouveau riche, playing at being important. The lottery winners who moved in next door. Giving it the big I am while winning nothing and generally being fairly inconsequential. Not plucky and loveable like Ajax, not making a title success of our situation like Atletico, not a fan temple like Dortmund. Pulling up the ladder once we’re in the rich club despite not long ago being outside looking in.

Oh right, I thought we were losing rep on twitter and facebook. Phew!

What are you on about?

 

[jay2040]

I think people like you are the problem mate. Blind to the world as long as you be making bank, picking one side and sticking to it religiously regardless of right and wrong. The modern Brexit mentality of looking after yourself

I’m typically a Levy supporter but I’m balanced. He does good things and bad things, and this is a silly. It looks terrible, and the only other club to do it is Newcastle, which kind of says everything you need to know. This isn’t about finances, it’s about society at large.

I would say I’m NOT interested in the club’s finances (“there used to be a football club over there” etc). But in lieu of ever winning anything, or even threatening to anymore, all we’ve got are those sweet sweet balance sheets. Seriously kill me now. The pulling of spend has been happening quite naturally thanks

One of these days the tv rights bubble is going to pop and they’ll need the fans again and they’ll look round and they’ll all be gone except for the likes of you in your Levy t-shirts, like MAGA hats. It will be quite the sight

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He was not judging anyone in the post he made as it was a general view.

 

[kannanmothalali]

You're only a consumer if you buy product from the seller ...

Get off your soap box mate.

Are you supporting a football club or a business? I would have been a lot more undertsanding and so would many be ,had this happened after 2 or 3 months with no sight of football ever returning. Instead he does this at the first sign of trouble. Maybe he souldn't be the highest paid chairman in the league if we can't even pay our staff even one month's wages properly.

 

[jay2040]

If Levy does not go through various measures including the furlough process I'm not sure he would have been able to potentially get the help government has offered via the banks. The savings on the interest payments in relation to the overdrafts and loans could be vital to our longevity.

 

[jay2040]

Are you supporting a football club or a business? I would have been a lot more undertsanding and so would many be ,had this happened after 2 or 3 months with no sight of football ever returning. Instead he does this at the first sign of trouble. Maybe he souldn't be the highest paid chairman in the league if we can't even pay our staff even one month's wages properly.

It seems you would prefer a reactive approach than being pro active one!

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Are you supporting a football club or a business? I would have been a lot more undertsanding and so would many be ,had this happened after 2 or 3 months with no sight of football ever returning. Instead he does this at the first sign of trouble. Maybe he souldn't be the highest paid chairman in the league if we can't even pay our staff even one month's wages properly.

You are shouting about finances and you ask me about supporting a football club.

Why are you even here?

 

[kannanmothalali]

You are shouting about finances and you ask me about supporting a football club.

Why are you even here?

I though we were discussing about things and sharing opinions. You have a problem with that?