Oh I haven't read such bollocks on here for ages. Just to sum up his mediocre achievements:Not so sure about that, m8. I suspect I am going to get dumped on for this, but Ancelotti is overrated IMHO. Don't get me wrong, he is a good manager, but not remotely close to being worthy of the insane amount of £ his salary would command. In fact, I don't even like Benitez at all, and I believe Carlo is just slightly better tactically than the Spanish Wanker.
Let's consider the following:
Ancelotti was at the two (or even three or four) of the most powerful and filthy rich clubs in the whole wide world, with virtually no restrictions on the budget. With any and all resources at his disposal, and largely no opposition when it comes to transfer targets of his own preference.....and he still only managed a relatively underwhelming level of accomplishment.
He got what, a double with the Chavs before getting sacked. Then he got that title with PSG, and Copa Del Rey this year with Madyid (well, he's still in the race for CL victory, but we'll see).
In almost a decade at those clubs, thats not nearly as good as he's made out to look by some folks.
Just sayin.
Much rather FDB or Poch...Much more fitting candidates for us, IMHO.
Cheers!
Pull your neck in. Youve totally missed the point of what he was saying.
Where do you think he's going then? Oh you meant us
You're calling me "Pathetic"? Brilliant!#1) Intertoto cup - 1999 -->> really?? 1999?...2014 minus 1999, that comes to 15...that's 15 years, just FYI....let me double-check and verify my calculator...uh huh...yup, that's 15 years...Way off there, kiddo.
#2) Italian title: 2004 -->> Technically, this one doesn't count either, since that was in early May (4th IIRC), and today is the 17th (almost 2 weeks over a decade), so you lose this one too, sweet cheeks...but I'll go ahead and give it you, since I am nice like that. Oh and BTW, thanks for confirming my argument ((I was trying to limit my points to the last 3 filthy rich mega-clubs Carlo worked @, but you threw AC Milan in there as well, where he incidentally had one of the top 5 squads in the world...and Juventus was fighting corruption scandals..So Carlo managed to steal that title with a roster of world-class footballers topped by the most prolific goalscorer that year, amidst a total cluster-f*ck in serie A))
#3) Italian cup: 2003 -->> Yeah, I don't think so, sweet cheeks. 11 years is definitely pushing the envelope. Refer to #1, and scratch that one.
#4) Italian Super cup: 2004 -->> Ok, ok, you can have this one.
#5) CL: 2003 (See #1 and #3, but NICE TRY)...and 2007 (fair and square, on this one...See, I can be reasonable
#6) European Super Cup: 2007
#7) Club world cup: 2007
#8) English double: 2010 (Abramovich throwing millions upon millions at him, this was a bare minimum expected with the Chavs. And I'm being generous here)
#9) Community shield: 2009 (clinging on to a thin thread, ey)?
#10) French title: 2013 (Barely...Considering he inherited a near-billion £ club, but still managed to draw 0-0 vs Ajaccio, 0-0 vs Bordeaux, 1-1 vs Valenciennes, 2-2 vs Lorient, and then lose to Rennes, and St. Etienne....quite underwhelming in a league largely dominated by the very same giant Ancelotti chose to lead.
#11) Copa del Rey: 2014
First, I didn't call you pathetic but those accomplishments. Second, I see you exclude any accomplishment that was funded with any player purchases (we spent 100 million last year BTW and have been among the top spenders in England for years - yet failed to deliver so it's not the formality you would like to think), so:Hahahaha....
This is so fitting, coming from a person who obviously lacks fundamental reading comprehension, along with basic arithmetic skills.
I probably shouldn't bother, but since you chose to open this can of worms and get personal, here you are, luv -->>
Last I checked, this was May of 2014, which makes your count of Ancelotti's accolades completely off the tangent.
Let's see here ((you may wanna get out your calculator, btw)):
So basically, in the last 10 years he managed to get a sum of 10 titles and/or trophies at best (2 of which are right outside the bubble & barely considered...while 2 others are nothing to brag about, and any half decent manager with an IQ level of a chimpanzee would be expected to accomplish them at a bare minimum.
As far as reaching the CL final this year, RM were lucky to squeeze by Dortmund to the Semis, and Carlo admitted as much himself.
I guess we'll revisit his accomplishments at a later date, but the bottom line remains -- while he's a good manager, given the astronomical resources and elite players (whom most regular managers such as Poch and FDB would salivate over)...Ancelotti is pretty overrated. And if you can't see that, then you need to take off your rose-tinted goggles, and take another look, because the facts are staring you right in the face.
And for future reference, please refrain from issuing personal insults, because it's quite discourteous.
Cheers.
Of course not, but it can't be the only denominator. There are superb managers that work with limited budgets and achieve great things - Pulis this year to name one. But in order to win you need a combination of money and experience - Pellegrini, who we can agree won the league not because of huge expenditure but because he didn't bottle it at the very end, unlike Rodgers - also huge budget and a star-studded squad.
