Next Spurs Manager (No longer with groundbreaking 'Change vote' functionality)

Who do you want as next Spurs manager?

  • Allegri

    Votes: 214 21.5%
  • Mourinho

    Votes: 258 25.9%
  • Wenger

    Votes: 9 0.9%
  • Pleat

    Votes: 4 0.4%
  • Ten Hag

    Votes: 54 5.4%
  • Wagner

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Howe

    Votes: 36 3.6%
  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 75 7.5%
  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 16 1.6%
  • Keep Poch (lol)

    Votes: 166 16.6%
  • Rodgers

    Votes: 49 4.9%
  • de Boer (Poch mk2)

    Votes: 3 0.3%
  • Benitez

    Votes: 50 5.0%
  • Sherwood

    Votes: 6 0.6%
  • Bus-Conductor

    Votes: 26 2.6%
  • Goat (ffs)

    Votes: 6 0.6%
  • WalkerBoyUK’s lad’s u14 coach

    Votes: 8 0.8%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 7 0.7%
  • Marco Rose

    Votes: 4 0.4%
  • freeeki

    Votes: 5 0.5%

  • Total voters
    997
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GetSpurredOn

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I’d love Poch to turn it round, I rally would, but I think that ship has sailed. He seems too drained, looks to have lost the players, lost the plot, and lost interest. Looks like a man going through the motions, despite saying he wants to stay.

Shootout now with Utd, who pulls the trigger first. I reckon Levy hopes Utd do, so he can get them to stump up a big payout for Poch, so he can then get Allegri. Think of the kudos on that for Levy. Rinse Utd for compensation, then get a manager for free who has just won Serie A five times back to back, including four league and cup doubles. I can’t see Levy paying Poch off, he’ll want compensation.

The potential snag here though, is Utd sack Ole first, don’t like the Poch price, and go straight for Allegri, leaving us looking at Mourinho or a lesser known ‘project’ manager. That said, I do wonder if ‘project’ is the way we’ll have to go. Given the amount of players we’ll likely have to replace, and looking at it, we’re likely going to have to replace the entire back four, plus a DM, AM and maybe even an extra forward, is Levy going to free up the sort of cash Allegri/Mourinho level managers will want to bring in replacements? Whereas any ‘project’ manager will likely be billed as tactically astute and with a record of developing players, and therefore cost Levy less in bringing lesser known players in, albeit our scouts would have to seriously up their game. Maybe a lesser known manager would be paired with a DoF to facilitate this.
 

yido_number1

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I’d love Poch to turn it round, I rally would, but I think that ship has sailed. He seems too drained, looks to have lost the players, lost the plot, and lost interest. Looks like a man going through the motions, despite saying he wants to stay.

Shootout now with Utd, who pulls the trigger first. I reckon Levy hopes Utd do, so he can get them to stump up a big payout for Poch, so he can then get Allegri. Think of the kudos on that for Levy. Rinse Utd for compensation, then get a manager for free who has just won Serie A five times back to back, including four league and cup doubles. I can’t see Levy paying Poch off, he’ll want compensation.

The potential snag here though, is Utd sack Ole first, don’t like the Poch price, and go straight for Allegri, leaving us looking at Mourinho or a lesser known ‘project’ manager. That said, I do wonder if ‘project’ is the way we’ll have to go. Given the amount of players we’ll likely have to replace, and looking at it, we’re likely going to have to replace the entire back four, plus a DM, AM and maybe even an extra forward, is Levy going to free up the sort of cash Allegri/Mourinho level managers will want to bring in replacements? Whereas any ‘project’ manager will likely be billed as tactically astute and with a record of developing players, and therefore cost Levy less in bringing lesser known players in, albeit our scouts would have to seriously up their game. Maybe a lesser known manager would be paired with a DoF to facilitate this.
I disagree. To me he looks like a manager that wanted to start a rebuild of the squad last window and has been forced into a new season with only one of his 3 new players fit enough to play. I think a lot of the players are at the end of a cycle Poch is at the end with a lot of these players and rightly wants a few of them out and a new breed in.

I'd keep him and give him time to do that and then see what he does with the new blood.
 

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I disagree. To me he looks like a manager that wanted to start a rebuild of the squad last window and has been forced into a new season with only one of his 3 new players fit enough to play. I think a lot of the players are at the end of a cycle Poch is at the end with a lot of these players and rightly wants a few of them out and a new breed in.

I'd keep him and give him time to do that and then see what he does with the new blood.
There is enough contributing factors to give Poch some benefit of doubt. But no-one is forcing him to pick Rose, Eriksen, Aurier, Alderweireld and any other player who has stated a desire to leave, or does not want to commit their future to the club. After the international break he has to pick XI players who will leave everything out on the pitch, run through brick walls for him, and play as a team. And if he cannot find XI players who will do that in our 25 man squad then his time is clearly up. TBH, that was what I was looking for against Brighton and both him and the team failed that test miserably.
 

yido_number1

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There is enough contributing factors to give Poch some benefit of doubt. But no-one is forcing him to pick Rose, Eriksen, Aurier, Alderweireld and any other player who has stated a desire to leave, or does not want to commit their future to the club. After the international break he has to pick XI players who will leave everything out on the pitch, run through brick walls for him, and play as a team. And if he cannot find XI players who will do that in our 25 man squad then his time is clearly up. TBH, that was what I was looking for against Brighton and both him and the team failed that test miserably.
When your option is alderweireld or Tanganga what option do you have. Similarly when he played Aurier RB he had zero other options and he actually did pretty well in his first game. If LoCelso was fit Eriksen wouldnt be playing and if we sold Toby we'd probably have replaced him.

Don't forget the Brighton game came off the back of beating palace 4-0 and sthampton 2-1 with 10 men. We might have got smashed against Bayern but it's bayern ffs.
 

Hugh DeMann

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When your option is alderweireld or Tanganga what option do you have. Similarly when he played Aurier RB he had zero other options and he actually did pretty well in his first game. If LoCelso was fit Eriksen wouldnt be playing and if we sold Toby we'd probably have replaced him.

Don't forget the Brighton game came off the back of beating palace 4-0 and sthampton 2-1 with 10 men. We might have got smashed against Bayern but it's bayern ffs.
Was Sanchez not available for Brighton game? Can't remember if he was injured...
 

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I’d love Poch to turn it round, I rally would, but I think that ship has sailed. He seems too drained, looks to have lost the players, lost the plot, and lost interest. Looks like a man going through the motions, despite saying he wants to stay.

Shootout now with Utd, who pulls the trigger first. I reckon Levy hopes Utd do, so he can get them to stump up a big payout for Poch, so he can then get Allegri. Think of the kudos on that for Levy. Rinse Utd for compensation, then get a manager for free who has just won Serie A five times back to back, including four league and cup doubles. I can’t see Levy paying Poch off, he’ll want compensation.

The potential snag here though, is Utd sack Ole first, don’t like the Poch price, and go straight for Allegri, leaving us looking at Mourinho or a lesser known ‘project’ manager. That said, I do wonder if ‘project’ is the way we’ll have to go. Given the amount of players we’ll likely have to replace, and looking at it, we’re likely going to have to replace the entire back four, plus a DM, AM and maybe even an extra forward, is Levy going to free up the sort of cash Allegri/Mourinho level managers will want to bring in replacements? Whereas any ‘project’ manager will likely be billed as tactically astute and with a record of developing players, and therefore cost Levy less in bringing lesser known players in, albeit our scouts would have to seriously up their game. Maybe a lesser known manager would be paired with a DoF to facilitate this.
The question is, in your first scenario, even if Utd stump up the cash would Poch walk? He's always held strong to his principles and even if on some level he wants to leave I'm not convinced he actually would unless he's pushed.

Maybe if behind the scenes him and Levy both agree that it's time for a change and him moving to Utd is the best for everyone, but that just seems a bit too neat and tidy to be realistic.
 

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I don’t see Poch going. Feel it’s more important, for him personally, to work through this situation we’re in. Just get the impression it’s in his nature to overcome stuff. As someone else pointed out, he was saying back in January we needed a ‘painful rebuild’ this summer. Just Sod’s law that things haven’t panned out as intended
 

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There is enough contributing factors to give Poch some benefit of doubt. But no-one is forcing him to pick Rose, Eriksen, Aurier, Alderweireld and any other player who has stated a desire to leave, or does not want to commit their future to the club. After the international break he has to pick XI players who will leave everything out on the pitch, run through brick walls for him, and play as a team. And if he cannot find XI players who will do that in our 25 man squad then his time is clearly up. TBH, that was what I was looking for against Brighton and both him and the team failed that test miserably.
Agree with this, I'm at a stage now where I'm all for dropping the malcontents to build for the future.
 

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Agree with this, I'm at a stage now where I'm all for dropping the malcontents to build for the future.
Yup. And it will get a bit easier with Foyth, GLC and RS coming back. I think we now have to really invest in Davinson and say centre back is him plus one. For me him and Vertonghen. Foyth RB and hopefully Sess left back if he's up to it. GLC in for Eriksen. Get Dele back into some form and and the team will start to look younger and fresher.

Go back to 4231. Stick to a line up and formation til it gels. Have a strong January window, and we'll be back in business.
 

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I don’t see Poch going. Feel it’s more important, for him personally, to work through this situation we’re in. Just get the impression it’s in his nature to overcome stuff.
I can see why you'd think that, but it doesn't match the reasons he left Espanyol:

Translated...
"For someone like me it is sad to leave this institution, but these decisions are made for positive reasons. The numbers are bad, but I have no doubt that the team will turn things around. There have been very adverse circumstances and many negative things. We have not had that touch of good luck."

"You feel frustrated and powerless, not just on a personal level, but for your people, the players, the fans," he said.

"We are a big family and when things do not go as we want we all suffer together. When results do not go your way you must assume your responsibilities, and that is what we have done. We have taken a responsible decision, thinking it would be positive. We reached an agreement and the financial side was easy. Knowing my contract situation that was never going to be a problem."

"First, there were the players who were on the pitch and then the fans who lifted us. Four years have passed with lots of effort and stress, I will remember the good side, and it is normal that when results are bad the coach must leave. Now we can give lots of excuses, but you must understand football as it is, and the message must be sent that we need to rediscover that unity and energy that I felt in 2009 to straighten out the path."
If he left, those same quotes could fit easily, which is the overall concern/suspicion that he isn't guaranteed to stay through it all.
 

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IF!...Poch leaves, I personally think Mourinho would be a good fit if you consider the progression of the club, over the past 15 years.

We've grown in all aspects, on and off the pitch, to the point where we need to consolidate and add to our European (and global) status.

Hiring a world-famous manager, who would more than likely bring us silverware, would put us in that next bracket up from where we are now. It would give us an enhanced reputation and set us up for years to come, even if Mourinho only hung around for 2 or 3 seasons.

Just my opinion of course...
 

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IF!...Poch leaves, I personally think Mourinho would be a good fit if you consider the progression of the club, over the past 15 years.

We've grown in all aspects, on and off the pitch, to the point where we need to consolidate and add to our European (and global) status.

Hiring a world-famous manager, who would more than likely bring us silverware, would put us in that next bracket up from where we are now. It would give us an enhanced reputation and set us up for years to come, even if Mourinho only hung around for 2 or 3 seasons.

Just my opinion of course...
Regardless off mourinho being a winner or not, I -personally - don’t want him near spurs; I believe him to be ‘anti-spurs’; he maybe able to stabilise things for a while, but he’d stagnate & stunt our growth - he’s got the vein of John Terry about him; something underhanded and snide..
 

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Regardless off mourinho being a winner or not, I -personally - don’t want him near spurs; I believe him to be ‘anti-spurs’; he maybe able to stabilise things for a while, but he’d stagnate & stunt our growth - he’s got the vein of John Terry about him; something underhanded and snide..
He’s a ****, but he’d be our ****.
 

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Mourinho would have us playing the same dour, defensive way that he had Chelsea and United playing. I would hate to see that and I don’t think we have the players for it anyway.
‘This could easily be his team
Gazza
Foyth Toby Sanchez Davies
Dier Sissoko Wanyama
Lamela Kane Moura

Based on the Mattic, Herrera , Fellaini midfield he went for at United . Full of flair and invention.
 

Cochise

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Or he could play

=========Lloris=========
Foyth==Toby==Sanchez==Rose
=========Dier==========
=====N'dombele==GLC=====
Lucas=====Kane=======Son

Based on the Chelsea team that he won the league with.
 

Sir Henry

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Mourinho wouldnt work well with Levy, imho.

He needs money, lots of it to win anything and our chairman is quite careful with his money.
 

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Mourinho wouldnt work well with Levy, imho.

He needs money, lots of it to win anything and our chairman is quite careful with his money.
The thing is I think if we went with a new manager we need to get some optimism back.

When Mourinho came to England the first time he seemed to be full of ideas and ambition. Now he seems like an old, bitter man who wants to manage because it is all he knows.

If he did come here I believe he is smart enough to make sure him and Levy would be on a similar page. My guess is both sides would see it is not a good fit though.
 

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The thing is I think if we went with a new manager we need to get some optimism back.

When Mourinho came to England the first time he seemed to be full of ideas and ambition. Now he seems like an old, bitter man who wants to manage because it is all he knows.

If he did come here I believe he is smart enough to make sure him and Levy would be on a similar page. My guess is both sides would see it is not a good fit though.
The media killed him as a manager. Leave him alone and I think that spark would return, but especially in this country thats not going to happen.
 

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The media killed him as a manager. Leave him alone and I think that spark would return, but especially in this country thats not going to happen.
Yep, managing in this country now takes much more than good coaching and player management.

You see manager after manager absolutely bemused by a journalist with no real knowledge of the game forcing their views onto people who have performed at the top of game both as a manager and player.
 

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His work with Sky these past few months have probably bought him a bit of grace from them at least.
 
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