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Player Watch: Pierre-Emile Højbjerg

Wheeler Dealer

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I was gonna come in and say the same thing. So you've saved me a bit of time on that :)

He was quality last season for us; maybe that was just to do with the formations and strategies we played. He's had a big dip in form over the past few months after playing a crazy amount of games over the past year and a half.

Rather than chuck him on the coals and claim he's shite, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he just needs a bit of a rest. He could do with having a couple of weeks on the bench to sort himself out, and then we could judge him after that. With the current ability of our midfield, and the amount of games coming up, I don't really see him getting rested.
Resting him is not going to improve his lack of technical abilities
 

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This thread is a prime example of the difference in player analysis between professionals and many fans. The former, including three of the world’s top ten managers in the last decade, rate him highly, the latter think he is worse than the worst.
Do you ever wonder why that is - who are most likely to be right?
Just because they rate him doesn't mean he hasn't been absolute toilet for the majority of the season
 

T-Bone

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I think he is useless and no manager will ever convince me otherwise. Our creativity and performance has all diminished since he came to the club, to slow at moving the ball, passing is not good enough, doesn't seem mobile enough. He is however a world class chest pumper and deflector of his own mistakes, as soon as he doesn't something wrong he is pointing the finger on the pitch. He is an absolute must when it comes to upgrades required, no surprise to me he was missing against Liverpool and it was our best performance in god knows how long.
 

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This thread is a prime example of the difference in player analysis between professionals and many fans. The former, including three of the world’s top ten managers in the last decade, rate him highly, the latter think he is worse than the worst.
Do you ever wonder why that is - who are most likely to be right?
When the bar is set so low in terms of squad competition where do you expect the manager to turn if has no viable alternatives to Hojbjerg
 

PhC

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I think he is useless and no manager will ever convince me otherwise. Our creativity and performance has all diminished since he came to the club, to slow at moving the ball, passing is not good enough, doesn't seem mobile enough. He is however a world class chest pumper and deflector of his own mistakes, as soon as he doesn't something wrong he is pointing the finger on the pitch. He is an absolute must when it comes to upgrades required, no surprise to me he was missing against Liverpool and it was our best performance in god knows how long.
Load of rubbish. He never runs away from his own responsibility or blame others post match, he always talks about the importance of the team and hard work.
 

Mr Pink

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This thread is a prime example of the difference in player analysis between professionals and many fans. The former, including three of the world’s top ten managers in the last decade, rate him highly, the latter think he is worse than the worst.
Do you ever wonder why that is - who are more likely to be right?

He's a good player, obviously. But he's limited as well...and I think his limitations are being more and more exposed.

It's not as simple as the way you're looking at it.
 

PhC

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When the bar is set so low in terms of squad competition where do you expect the manager to turn if has no viable alternatives to Hojbjerg
The amount of cherry picking and confirmation bias in here is what’s bothering me. One bad game doesn’t make him bad, and look at the stats this season - they really tell a very different story than this thread

 

Aphex

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When the bar is set so low in terms of squad competition where do you expect the manager to turn if has no viable alternatives to Hojbjerg


Spot on. PEH joined the club at a time when our CM options have never been weaker.

We've had Winks (average), Ndombele (pathetic), GLC (injured) as other options for our managers. In fact our CM has been so bad that academy kid Skipp came straight back from a loan in the championship to become an indispensible part of our CM.

So saying that 3 managers in a row have picked PEH means nothing really, as what other options have they really had?

We have no top class CM at Spurs, not like we did in the days of Carrick, Dembele, Modric, Wanyama ( for one season) etc
 

beats1

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by most accounts our most important player last year. He on a poor run but FFS the vitriol.
This has been happening for a long time, every player has pretty much got it bar Son, Hugo and

All I say thank fuck we don't have a big fan youtube channel
 

carpediem991

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Still think he is of use in the squad. Just not as every game starter.
Skipp is performing better.
 

soflapaul

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He's a good player, obviously. But he's limited as well...and I think his limitations are being more and more exposed.

It's not as simple as the way you're looking at it.
He has his limits and those limits are even greater when he is overplayed. I think the post's point is that the commentary in here doesn't reflect that he is a good player even with limitations. Fan expectations of players are reaching absurd levels.

He is not playing well at the moment but I will respect the coach's opinions far more than some in this thread. unsurprisingly to many, his name isn't included in Trix's itk available to go list either.
 

PhC

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All said, I do agree he needs a rest. Seems like he usually starts well, but has trouble keeping it up as the match progresses.
 

cider spurs

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Ibrahim Sangare would give us exactly what we need. Defensive prowess, and the ability to pass quickly and effectively out to wings, or drives forwards to transition our attack.

Can't believe PSV got him so cheaply back in 2020.

We snaffle this lad, and keep with Hojbjerg and that starts to look pretty appealing, add a bit more of a creative type further ahead...wahaay ?

Sangare over Kessie all day long for me.
 

T-Bone

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Load of rubbish. He never runs away from his own responsibility or blame others post match, he always talks about the importance of the team and hard work.
look at lasts nights match, he tries to clear the ball and smashes it into Skipp, nearly leading to a chelsea goal. Then starts barking at Skipp for being in the way of his atrocious clearance when with a bit of composure he would have realized there was no need to do as he had time to simply pass it to Skipp. He can say what he wants in interviews but his actions on the pitch tell a different story to me, regardless it doesn't change the fact that he is piss poor and we need an upgrade.
 

Mr Pink

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He has his limits and those limits are even greater when he is overplayed. I think the post's point is that the commentary in here doesn't reflect that he is a good player even with limitations. Fan expectations of players are reaching absurd levels.

He is not playing well at the moment but I will respect the coach's opinions far more than some in this thread. unsurprisingly to many, his name isn't included in Trix's itk available to go list either.

Absolutely.

I'll bow to the professionals, but imo, I think he slows us down and when we're pressed he's not good enough on the ball.

He's great at snuffing out danger and breaking play up but my problem is that he doesn't seem to be able to affect midfield enough when we're being overrun.

Now you would think you'd see more of those combative qualities come out in situations like that. A crunching tackle to lift the team etc

I don't know, there's just something lacking imo and on the ball I don't think he's technically good enough.
 

soflapaul

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Absolutely.

I'll bow to the professionals, but imo, I think he slows us down and when we're pressed he's not good enough on the ball.

He's great at snuffing out danger and breaking play up but my problem is that he doesn't seem to be able to affect midfield enough when we're being overrun.

Now you would think you'd see more of those combative qualities come out in situations like that. A crunching tackle to lift the team etc

I don't know, there's just something lacking imo and on the ball I don't think he's technically good enough.

Great points. His value is always going to be determined by the competition we're playing against. He isn't a proactive player and is much more of a reactive to what others are doing. That means he isn't a must start every game or a must bench every game. He is a useful player to have on the team. (They are called utility players here in the States). But this ongoing cacaphony about how bad he is is well, less than intelligent. What i do love about the guy is that he will leave it all on the field and we don't have enough of those players at the moment. That isn't enough for the long term but it certainly is at the moment I just hope he gets some rest so we can see if he is still capable better than he has recently.
 

kaz Hirai

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This thread is a prime example of the difference in player analysis between professionals and many fans. The former, including three of the world’s top ten managers in the last decade, rate him highly, the latter think he is worse than the worst.
Do you ever wonder why that is - who are more likely to be right?

Conte, Jose and? Ryan mason?
 

PhC

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look at lasts nights match, he tries to clear the ball and smashes it into Skipp, nearly leading to a chelsea goal. Then starts barking at Skipp for being in the way of his atrocious clearance when with a bit of composure he would have realized there was no need to do as he had time to simply pass it to Skipp. He can say what he wants in interviews but his actions on the pitch tell a different story to me, regardless it doesn't change the fact that he is piss poor and we need an upgrade.
And if it were a player you liked, you’d have applauded it as a sign of his commitment, dedication and winning mentality. But your labeling him as “piss poor” tells me you may not be the self reflecting type.
 
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