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Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg

leemason2302

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As if it matters where he comes from. Was Mane an audacious signing?
I think you may have misunderstood, i don't care who we sign players from, i meant why would it be audacious that we'd sign a Southampton player?
 

morriss

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But they get 100 X more things wrong, when you sling so much shit, one or two things will stick
Same with everything. Doesn’t mean they don’t have an obligation to print what they get from a credible source.

Journalism, it’s called.

If it’s ok that “things change” for our ITK (who themselves might be journos), then it must be ok for things to change for media.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Hojbjerg was not a holding mid at Soton, have a look at his heat map when he was there.
He’s clearly been brought in to ball win. Based on pre season we’re clearly going with an all rounder pivot. I’m not saying White won’t get minutes, but I don’t see any evidence that we’re going to utilise a particular anchor man, nor do I think White is an anchor man from what I’ve seen.
 

rio bryan

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He’s clearly been brought in to ball win. Based on pre season we’re clearly going with an all rounder pivot. I’m not saying White won’t get minutes, but I don’t see any evidence that we’re going to utilise a particular anchor man, nor do I think White is an anchor man from what I’ve seen.
In the first pre-season game Winks clearly played as a holding mid with Holbjerg playing an all action role all over the pitch, when White has played in pre-season he has played more holding.
 

BringBack_leGin

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In the first pre-season game Winks clearly played as a holding mid with Holbjerg playing an all action role all over the pitch, when White has played in pre-season he has played more holding.
I think you’re conflating players natural tendencies within matches with managerial instructions.
 

Cochise

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It's like we allow one midfielder to chase and harry, whilst the other is meant to dictate from deep.
 

rio bryan

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In the first pre-season game Winks clearly played as a holding mid with Holbjerg playing an all action role all over the pitch, when White has played in pre-season he has played more holding.
Can the two people who disagree please explain the above players positions as i obviously got it wrong !
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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In the first pre-season game Winks clearly played as a holding mid with Holbjerg playing an all action role all over the pitch, when White has played in pre-season he has played more holding.
I see this type of comment a lot.

Winks will come and get the ball off the back 4 making it seem like he is the deepest mid. But actually it's just how most teams build play (DLP coming to receive from the back 4). Out of possesion Hojbjerg will mostly be the deepest.
 

Timberwolf

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I see this type of comment a lot.

Winks will come and get the ball off the back 4 making it seem like he is the deepest mid. But actually it's just how most teams build play (DLP coming to receive from the back 4). Out of possesion Hojbjerg will mostly be the deepest.
I think it's because a lot of people are expecting Hojbjerg to be a holding midfielder who just sits in front of the back 4 all game much in the way Dier does, so as soon as they saw Winks coming deep and Hojbjerg involved higher up they assumed the roles had switched. In reality, while Hojbjerg is a combative, defensive minded midfielder he will also bomb around and press high on occasion, as was his role at So'ton.

As you say, though, Winks certainly isn't our "DM" even if he comes deep to pick up the ball, and it will be Hojbjerg who does the most defensive work when we're out of possession. He's still effectively our DM, just not a holding DM.
 

punkisback

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I think it's because a lot of people are expecting Hojbjerg to be a holding midfielder who just sits in front of the back 4 all game much in the way Dier does, so as soon as they saw Winks coming deep and Hojbjerg involved higher up they assumed the roles had switched. In reality, while Hojbjerg is a combative, defensive minded midfielder he will also bomb around and press high on occasion, as was his role at So'ton.

As you say, though, Winks certainly isn't our "DM" even if he comes deep to pick up the ball, and it will be Hojbjerg who does the most defensive work when we're out of possession. He's still effectively our DM, just not a holding DM.
I think people just need to see it as we are playing a similar double pivot as we did with Carrick and Davids.
 
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