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Player watch: Christian Eriksen

Havre

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If it's ineffective it's pointless, again watch MOTD post match analysis for some examples.

Covering space isn´t pointless.

Eriksen clearly isn´t up to par. Which I have also criticised him for. His game against Inter in the pre-season was embarrassing. I´m not defending his performance against City, but if a player can´t have a poor game before hounded out of the club we got an issue.

He did fine against Villa.
 

BedfordshireSpud

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You know nothing of my background at all! I have been involved in football for many, many years, and not just as a supporter. You don’t know my CV. I find you comments very subjective and baseless. You are welcomed to disagree with me. But your closing comments? Lol. In my history on this forum you will find I am not an impulsive reactionary individual. Onwards and upwards.
You are right, of course, Herc. I don’t have your football background, but after a long career in management I can recognise body language and motivation. For over a season now his head hasn’t been with us. Even if he does sign a deal he will be looking to move on, or regretting that he didn’t get the chance. As much as we will miss losing our best player it seems inevitable in the short or medium term. Dragging this on by not signing the contract is the worse of all worlds and I can see the attraction in moving him on.
 

C-oops

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Jogging around, ineffective closing down, and tackling is the basis for disagreement
See the MOTD post match analysis for a few examples.
Can I introduce you to the concept of positioning and the closing down/shutting off of passing channels ? It's probably something that Poch implements and sees that his most used player is a great proponent of it.
 

Ronwol196061

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Btw, what does your background matter in this case when you're offering an opinion which is clearly based on incorrect understanding and is knee jerk/reactionary ? Your background is meaningless in this debate unless of course you're trying to say your view is more worthwhile than a mere footballing serf .

C-oops this is going beyond really.Is this necessary? Lets get back to the issues and if Hercules says he has said it all why not leave it like that?
 

wrd

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Btw, what does your background matter in this case when you're offering an opinion which is clearly based on incorrect understanding and is knee jerk/reactionary ? Your background is meaningless in this debate unless of course you're trying to say your view is more worthwhile than a mere footballing serf .

People will justify their opinions if you decide to call them baseless:whistle:
 

THFCSPURS19

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I didn’t say that. I know it is a joke. He has been PISS POOR! Sorry for shouting. Guy winds me up.
Haha what??? There's been two games this season, one against Villa where he completely changed the game in our favour, and one against the best team in Europe where the whole team was shit. You're acting like we're halfway through this season and he's played crap every game.
 

SdB

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Can I introduce you to the concept of positioning and the closing down/shutting off of passing channels ? It's probably something that Poch implements and sees that his most used player is a great proponent of it.

Thanks for enlightening me!!!
Perhaps Poch can relay it to Eriksen
 

Hercules

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Haha what??? There's been two games this season, one against Villa where he completely changed the game in our favour, and one against the best team in Europe where the whole team was shit. You're acting like we're halfway through this season and he's played crap every game.
I have held my view for a long while. And the very reason I keep off certain debates, as I know they are very opinionated (mine included). I have not been a fan of his for circa 18 months. I believe he is capable of much better. I don’t like knocking our players. I call it as I see it. Yesterday he was very poor indeed. I have stated my opinions extensively in the past 24 hours.
 

greavesy461

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Clearly, he's not an elite-level playmaker like a De Bruyne, a Hazard, an Inestia etc, but I don't think that should be a stick to beat him with. The question I'd ask is: with the kind of resources THFC has, how easy would we find it to bring in player(s) who are noticeably better than Eriksen playing a comparable role in the side? Very blooming hard, is the answer that I would give to that question.

Therefore, despite not being the kind of superman that every team in the world wishes they had in their line-up, my take is that Eriksen is just about as good a player as we could realistically hope to get in our creative midfield slots, and I'd struggle to name anyone that we could sign who would be an unarguable step up from him. So while he's not perfect I am really glad that he's still with us for now and I think we will feel his loss when/if he goes.

THIS
 

C-oops

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I have held my view for a long while. And the very reason I keep off certain debates, as I know they are very opinionated (mine included). I have not been a fan of his for circa 18 months. I believe he is capable of much better. I don’t like knocking our players. I call it as I see it. Yesterday he was very poor indeed. I have stated my opinions extensively in the past 24 hours.
Yes but you haven't offered anything to back up your view and are giving it in a way that comes across as if you're some sort of authority on it. In my opinion, your opinion is quite frankly embarrassing. Since poch took over he's been arguably our most important player bar the last few months where he's been inconsistent at worse and match winning (enabling us to qualify for the CL when we probably didn't deserve to) at best. The only team he'd struggle to get into is the billion pound, double league champions, Man City. The constant slating of him, in spite of his stats is absurd.
 
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Hercules

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No need to get personal in discussions people. We are all fully entitled to our opinions. If anyone calls anyone out, it is to the person’s right to defend themselves. I am not above anybody because of my past. Sometimes I have an educated opinion, which is not ITK, but educated. CE has all the tools to be world class, but lacks the mentality to impose himself in big and critical games on a consistent basis. This is what frustrates many like myself.
 
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andyosh11

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I think it's clear he wants to move, by the end of this window if possible. He also wants Real or maybe it's no deal. I'm sure Levy would happily engineer a move to, say, Bayern or Juventus if he can, with a guarantee to Poch that he can reinvest the fee in January a la Lucas or next summer a la the three he delivered for Poch this window. BTW when have we ever started a window with 3 targets and Levy delivered every one? Never, basically, the times are a changing.
 

Primativ

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Covering space isn´t pointless.

Eriksen clearly isn´t up to par. Which I have also criticised him for. His game against Inter in the pre-season was embarrassing. I´m not defending his performance against City, but if a player can´t have a poor game before hounded out of the club we got an issue.

He did fine against Villa.


But he’s had multiple poor games over a 12 month period. Many more poor games than good ones.

When does he get called out for it? Or do we just have to keep quiet because he played reasonably well against a knackered villa side for 20 minutes?

I don’t get why people take such offence about people calling out a player for being in poor form for so long. It isn’t up for debate is it? Or are people saying they think CE has played well for the last 12 months?

CE is clearly a level below the best playmakers in this league like KDB and David Silva. That’s fine, not everyone can be that good.

But he’s been clearly well below par for an extended period of time. How many times do we see him get the ball and just lose it? It’s actually startling how often it happens in games every week!
 

Primativ

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Yes but you haven't offered anything to back up your view and are giving it in a way that comes across as if you're some sort of authority on it. In my opinion, your opinion is quite frankly embarrassing. Since poch took over he's been arguably our most important player bar the last few months where he's been inconsistent at worse and match winning (enabling us to qualify for the CL when we probably didn't deserve to) at best. The only team he'd struggle to get into is the billion pound, double league champions, Man City. The constant slating of him, in spite of his stats is absurd.

Sorry but that’s rubbish. Kane has always been our most important player, it’s literally not even close.

Do you think if Kane had one year left on his contract we would be in August without a single proper offer for him? Every single club in the world would be in for him and they’d be throwing obscene money at Levy. See the difference between how Madrid go after elite level players like Hazard and how they treat just good players like CE? Where are the clubs beating down the door to sign CE?

And you say he’s been Inconsistent at best? ? that’s generous in the extreme. The guy has been really poor in most games for 12 months. As I said, a few goals when he’s been anonymous in those games too but come up with a long ranger does not gloss over his woeful form. How Eriksen played yesterday is how he has been in 90% of games for a year now. It’s not something new and it’s not inconsistency. It’s just crap form. Let’s not dress it up.
 
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