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Player watch: Christian Eriksen

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Are late goals the litmus test if how good a player is?
No. But goals, assists, chances created , pass completion percentage and distance covered whilst playing in a top 4 ,champions League team are. Do you want me to point you in the direction of the stats for these ?
 

Ronwol196061

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You tell me. Is late goals an indication of doing something useful when it matters? I mean since he NEVER does that.

Not always you have to qualify it
When Bale to the game to Inter after being 3 down that was special
But in general great if someone scores and settles a game.I don't think in the overall estimation of a player it means that much
Sometimes it's part if a team effort sometimes it's a player that drives the situation as he wants to win.They are all different
 

Havre

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Not always you have to qualify it
When Bale to the game to Inter after being 3 down that was special
But in general great if someone scores and settles a game.I don't think in the overall estimation of a player it means that much
Sometimes it's part if a team effort sometimes it's a player that drives the situation as he wants to win.They are all different

So purely subjective then.

And a bit funny you have to use Bale as an example - as I am assuming you haven´t got any from players playing for us now. As I said - the Mad King was right.
 

McFlash

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I don't think anyone can deny that Eriksen is a damn good player, but I also don't see how anyone can deny that he hasn't been playing to the best of his ability for quite some time. And that this is what's so frustrating about watching him.
Maybe it's his style etc but no amount of stat waving will take away the fact that, when watching him, he's pissed me off. It didn't used to be like that.
 

werty

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Exaggeration is the way some people see Eriksen.
There are many important games he hasn't. Is the exaggeration or a sense of reality?
There are many important games Kane, Alli, Son, Lamela, Lucas, Winks, Sissoko, Dier, Wanyama, Rose, Davies Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Aurier, Sanchez and Lloris didn't turn up. There are many important game Poch has shit the bed tactically. There are very few players who play well in the majority of big games. I'd hazard a guess that he's turned up for more than most because usually when he doesn't, the rest are bad too.

What do you consider an important game? Why the Villa game not important? You know, the game where he created more chances than everyone except Rose despite playing less than 30 minutes.
 

wrd

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So purely subjective then.

And a bit funny you have to use Bale as an example - as I am assuming you haven´t got any from players playing for us now. As I said - the Mad King was right.

I'm curious what does this mean? I googled it but it mostly came up with Game of Thrones stuff which I haven't watched yet.
 

wrd

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There are many important games Kane, Alli, Son, Lamela, Lucas, Winks, Sissoko, Dier, Wanyama, Rose, Davies Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Aurier, Sanchez and Lloris didn't turn up. There are many important game Poch has shit the bed tactically. There are very few players who play well in the majority of big games. I'd hazard a guess that he's turned up for more than most because usually when he doesn't, the rest are bad too.

What do you consider an important game? Why the Villa game not important? You know, the game where he created more chances than everyone except Rose despite playing less than 30 minutes.

I agree with what you're saying, however if people want to suggest that he is our most important player then arguably he has more responsibility to show up or better put a bigger target on his back for people to be critical when he doesn't have a good game such is high opinion of his abilities.
 

Havre

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I agree with what you're saying, however if people want to suggest that he is our most important player then arguably he has more responsibility to show up or better put a bigger target on his back for people to be critical when he doesn't have a good game such is high opinion of his abilities.

Fair.

That is not what many are currently saying though. For me Eriksen will never be KDB (obviously), but he is more than good enough to be in a core group of key players right behind the truly world class ones.
 

wrd

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Fair.

That is not what many are currently saying though. For me Eriksen will never be KDB (obviously), but he is more than good enough to be in a core group of key players right behind the truly world class ones.

Yeah I think both sides of the argument are overstated to be honest, he's not as good as people make him out to be in that people on here act like we will cease to function as a football team if he leaves, I'd say we are well situated to cope with the loss. He's also nowhere near as bad as people are making out and despite not having the best time of it over the last 6-12 months he has still delivered at important moments.

I think Poch needs to take responsibility for yesterday because in terms of attacking players, he got it wrong and he's coached the likes of Eriksen and Moura long enough to know which one is better suited away to city.
 

Ronwol196061

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There are many important games Kane, Alli, Son, Lamela, Lucas, Winks, Sissoko, Dier, Wanyama, Rose, Davies Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Aurier, Sanchez and Lloris didn't turn up. There are many important game Poch has shit the bed tactically. There are very few players who play well in the majority of big games. I'd hazard a guess that he's turned up for more than most because usually when he doesn't, the rest are bad too.

What do you consider an important game? Why the Villa game not important? You know, the game where he created more chances than everyone except Rose despite playing less than 30 minutes.


He has I don't compare him generally to others on our team as he has more talent
It's just that I don't rate him as a game changer.
Some people took that literally. I didnt mean scoring in the last minute but more about the mentality.
It's all water under the bridge of this thread that is picking pieces out to magnify
Blogs go like that I've done it too.
Ultimately I've expected more from Eriksen as the 'Great player' That he is made out to be.
My poi t it he has great talent but lacking a mentality that makes him a game changer
 

dagraham

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Clearly, he's not an elite-level playmaker like a De Bruyne, a Hazard, an Inestia etc, but I don't think that should be a stick to beat him with. The question I'd ask is: with the kind of resources THFC has, how easy would we find it to bring in player(s) who are noticeably better than Eriksen playing a comparable role in the side? Very blooming hard, is the answer that I would give to that question.

Therefore, despite not being the kind of superman that every team in the world wishes they had in their line-up, my take is that Eriksen is just about as good a player as we could realistically hope to get in our creative midfield slots, and I'd struggle to name anyone that we could sign who would be an unarguable step up from him. So while he's not perfect I am really glad that he's still with us for now and I think we will feel his loss when/if he goes.

Nail on the fucking head, particularly the highlighted bit of your post. I swear people don’t factor in stuff like this. Probably because it’s easier just playing fantasy football in your head.
 

werty

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I agree with what you're saying, however if people want to suggest that he is our most important player then arguably he has more responsibility to show up or better put a bigger target on his back for people to be critical when he doesn't have a good game such is high opinion of his abilities.
True. But other players who are important, or who others consider more important, aren't being given the same label as him. I think it's become a coping mechanism for some now because he might be going so they're trying to convince himself he wasn't that important in the first place.
 

wrd

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True. But other players who are important, or who others consider more important, aren't being given the same label as him. I think it's become a coping mechanism for some now because he might be going so they're trying to convince himself he wasn't that important in the first place.

I would say it's hard to argue otherwise because Kane also did nothing yesterday and we're not having a similar discussion there.
 

Colonel Dax

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True. But other players who are important, or who others consider more important, aren't being given the same label as him. I think it's become a coping mechanism for some now because he might be going so they're trying to convince himself he wasn't that important in the first place.

This. Same thing happened when Walker left and last summer when Toby was rumoured to be going.
 
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