Player watch: Christian Eriksen

[fortworthspur]

a lot can happen in a year. this may yet work out well.

 

[Havre]

That's not what I said. I said that it's not ideal but if there's no choice then we may as well wish the lad well and thank him for the good times. I also don't think the Club has failed to sell him; I think it's more the case that he's refused to go anywhere he doesn't want to and we can't make him go to a club he doesn't want to join.

That is what you said at the outset if I remember correctly.

No difficult to say to Eriksen if you don’t sign we have to prioritize players that are in our long term future. Not unfair and Eriksen would have left is my guess.

 

[Shadydan]

Not sure why history is relevant. If so anything we now do is a remarkable success regardless.

Obviously in most cases teams are able to sell players if they want to. To me it sounds like we thought someone would come in with a bid late - that never happened and we lost.

Funny site this. Get so many dislikes on my posts, but hardly any of those are from posters that actually offer an argument for the opposite view. M

You literally mentioned history in your preceding post, you're the one that brought it up in the first place. You said that we have historically been good at avoiding these situations which indicates we normally do good business around player contracts so just because a player doesn't sign up doesn't suddenly mean we do bad business or have failed.

 

[Thewobbler]

That is what you said at the outset if I remember correctly.

No difficult to say to Eriksen if you don’t sign we have to prioritize players that are in our long term future. Not unfair and Eriksen would have left is my guess.

I think poch tried to leave him out but had to accept we need him on the pitch. Whats the point of leaving him out when he can get us CL again and maybe help us win a trophy before he goes.

Even if we told him he would be on the bench I still firmly believe he would not have just went anywhere. All he has to do is wait 6 months and sign a pre contract agreement.

 

[Indisguise]

That is what you said at the outset if I remember correctly.

No difficult to say to Eriksen if you don’t sign we have to prioritize players that are in our long term future. Not unfair and Eriksen would have left is my guess.

You remember incorrectly because I didn't make any mention of being happy about not getting a fee for him. I said that we'd had our value out of him which is something completely different. We haven't sold him, he's been good value so let's get over it. He may well be worth more to us in his final year than a fee.

 

[Havre]

You remember incorrectly because I didn't make any mention of being happy about not getting a fee for him. I said that we'd had our value out of him which is something completely different. We haven't sold him, he's been good value so let's get over it. He may well be worth just as much to us in his final year than a fee.

"We paid buttons for Eriksen and have received several times his weight in gold back."

So what we paid for him matters in terms of what is good business now - according to you. I completely disagree.

 

[wrd]

You literally mentioned history in your preceding post, you're the one that brought it up in the first place. You said that we have historically been good at avoiding these situations which indicates we normally do good business around player contracts so just because a player doesn't sign up doesn't suddenly mean we do bad business or have failed.

Not accusing Havre of this but I think in everything these days especially football, we are always looking for who's at fault and done what wrong. Every goal conceded the first thought is who can we blame.

I think its the same in this situation we are looking for somebody to fault for being in this situation but sometimes these things happen. We negotiated the contracts years ago and at the time they were great deals. Now they dont want to sign, thats their choice, we offered good contracts to at least 2 and they werent interested, we did what we could therefore we were ready to sell, no offers came in which any player accepted. What can we do? We cant force them out and they will lose leverage if they sign. Theres no fault on either side, its just the situation as it stands.

 

[Havre]

You literally mentioned history in your preceding post, you're the one that brought it up in the first place. You said that we have historically been good at avoiding these situations which indicates we normally do good business around player contracts so just because a player doesn't sign up doesn't suddenly mean we do bad business or have failed.

I´m not sure if you are serious.

If you believe allowing players to leave on a free is no problem - then sure. If you believe, like me, that is not a good thing then yes we have done bad business and/or failed.

 

[Shadydan]

I´m not sure if you are serious.

If you believe allowing players to leave on a free is no problem - then sure. If you believe, like me, that is not a good thing then yes we have done bad business and/or failed.

You're putting up a straw man, I didn't say it wasn't a 'problem'

Failure is your entire glass half empty perception of the situation but I don't agree.

 

[Havre]

I think poch tried to leave him out but had to accept we need him on the pitch. Whats the point of leaving him out when he can get us CL again and maybe help us win a trophy before he goes.

Even if we told him he would be on the bench I still firmly believe he would not have just went anywhere. All he has to do is wait 6 months and sign a pre contract agreement.

We didn´t try hard enough if you ask me.

Not that Eriksen tackles much anyway, but it will be interesting to see come March and Eriksen being more worried about getting injured than winning games for Spurs....

Or the morale when Lo Celso is left out of the team come April because Eriksen plays.

I still hope Eriksen signs, but I don´t see a happy ending to this. I think Eriksen will fade out and we will end up with no money.

 

[WiganSpur]

There's still a chance he will sign a new contract imo, but nothing will be decided until next summer now. Becoming a free agent will force his hand one way or another. He'll have to sign an extension if no bigger club is interested at that point.

Realistically though I'm hoping it will be resolved in January with a pre-contract agreement. Then we can hopefully sign a replacement in January and get them bedded into the team by the time he leaves.

 

[Havre]

You're putting up a straw man, I didn't say it wasn't a 'problem'

Failure is your entire glass half empty perception of the situation but I don't agree.

So we agree it is a problem, but you disagree on the degree? Fair enough.

Not that it was anything close to being a straw man, but...

 

[fortworthspur]

TBH dont know what you can do with a player who runs down his contract. If he only wanted Barca or Madrid you cant force those clubs to buy him.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

It's funny really as this situation mirrors us buying him from Ajax. However I do recall him signing a new 1 year contract so that Ajax may get a fee from him. And he joined us after again with one year left on his contract late in the window, with some saying he was a Willian replacement.

At the time he was probably dreaming of a huge club to come in for him, but they didn't. We did and on the last day of the window? What would if happened if we didn't?

 

[JimmyG2]

Threaten him with money.

 

[Scissors&Tape]

The possibility of a player leaving on a free is eminently foreseeable, and undoubtedly a savvy businessperson like Levy negotiates and budgets with that in mind. For example, Eriksen's relatively low wages over the last few years at least partially offsets the lack of return if he leaves on a free. Without being privy to all the numbers, it is impossible to judge whether Levy has made a good call in Eriksen's case.

 

[Indisguise]

"We paid buttons for Eriksen and have received several times his weight in gold back."

So what we paid for him matters in terms of what is good business now - according to you. I completely disagree.

You're being pretty selective there. The whole quote says:

"In an ideal world no decent player would leave on a free but it's not an ideal world is it? We paid buttons for Eriksen and have received several times his weight in gold back. There's very little to complain about if he goes on a free.

I haven't at any time said I want Eriksen to go on a free or that I'm happy we won't get anything for him. I've just accepted the fact that he holds all the cards and that he clearly planned it that way in order to have complete freedom over his own life. There's nothing the Club can do about that.

 

[double0]

There's still a chance he will sign a new contract imo, but nothing will be decided until next summer now. Becoming a free agent will force his hand one way or another. He'll have to sign an extension if no bigger club is interested at that point.

Realistically though I'm hoping it will be resolved in January with a pre-contract agreement. Then we can hopefully sign a replacement in January and get them bedded into the team by the time he leaves.

There's no way Eriksen will sign a new contract he will 100% leaving on a Bosman free. If you think about it from his point he has so much to gain now financially it make sense...Toby and Vertonghen will do the same imo. I reckon agents have told players at Spurs especially dealing with Levy it's best to run contracts down. We've tried with success incrementally increasing our asset players contract on longer deals with improved money holding the power in the hands of the club however the new tactic is not to sign these incremental contracts offered by the club and leave on a Bosman free. The question for the club now is do we sell, we've tried that with Danny Rose and Wanyama and both decided against going then we are left to maximise their presence as we did with Llorente and allow them to leave on a free. The problem he have is when Poch wants to rejuvenate the squad we really have to sell first before we can buy.

 

[mil1lion]

I can see more players doing this in the Premier League. The asking price for players is so high now and teams in England can afford to turn down big money. Players are having to run their contracts down if they want to move which is kind of how it should work anyway. You can't really blame a player for honouring the contract they signed rather than sign a contract they dont intend to see out. I just want him to perform to his best ability because that's what we're paying him for. If he helps us qualify for another CL and maybe a trophy maybe it's worth losing him for free.

 

[WiganSpur]

There's no way Eriksen will sign a new contract he will 100% leaving on a Bosman free. If you think about it from his point he has so much to gain now financially it make sense...Toby and Vertonghen will do the same imo. I reckon agents have told players at Spurs especially dealing with Levy it's best to run contracts down. We've tried with success incrementally increasing our asset players contract on longer deals with improved money holding the power in the hands of the club however the new tactic is not to sign these incremental contracts offered by the club and leave on a Bosman free. The question for the club now is do we sell, we've tried that with Danny Rose and Wanyama and both decided against going then we are left to maximise their presence as we did with Llorente and allow them to leave on a free. The problem he have is when Poch wants to rejuvenate the squad we really have to sell first before we can buy.

I think we can take the hit on all 3 leaving with Rose as well tbh. To replace those 5 we'd probably be looking at 2 players which is doable. A centre back, and a playmaker to replace Eriksen. I think at this point this is why I may be slightly wary of bringing Dybala in as if we pay 65m for him then that could lead us to having to shell out a good 150m net in January and next summer. That's ignoring the need for a RB too, but there are players we can sell such as Wanyama and Aurier, possibly Sissoko too.

I'd rather not lose both Toby and Vertonghen due to their experience, but there isn't much we can do if they won't accept fresh terms.