It isn’t mate. I was simply a mistake. I don’t wanna offend anyone.
Player watch: Danny Rose
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I really don't get this hatred against Rose. Obviously that one interview wasn't the smartest thing he has ever done, but he wasn't actually wrong. There were definitely fans early on in his career that made their views on him heard - because they didn't think he was good enough. So he slips up.
On the pitch he always gave it his all. And this idea that he has been %"%"! for quite a long time is just false. One of our best players in the CL final. He isn't the same as he used to be, but let us not making him out worse than he is.
On the contract situation. So he wants to stay, but he doesn't get a new offer and we are to criticize him for staying? That is just absurd to me - and the Eriksen situation is not comparable. Are we as fans going to hound out players that do want to stay, but the club won't extend? I don't get it at all. Slightly embarrassed actually on how some Spursfans are currently behaving.
As for him as a player today - clearly not good enough. As with Vertonghen I really don't know what they were up to this summer. Vertonghen went from his best season to being %""%. Rose went from an average season with solid performances in the big games to even worse than Vertonghen. I don't think there is much value left for us in Rose (probably none), but I still respect him. And if he wants to stay for 1.5 years trying to fight his way back he is more then welcome.
On the pitch he always gave it his all. And this idea that he has been %"%"! for quite a long time is just false. One of our best players in the CL final. He isn't the same as he used to be, but let us not making him out worse than he is.
On the contract situation. So he wants to stay, but he doesn't get a new offer and we are to criticize him for staying? That is just absurd to me - and the Eriksen situation is not comparable. Are we as fans going to hound out players that do want to stay, but the club won't extend? I don't get it at all. Slightly embarrassed actually on how some Spursfans are currently behaving.
As for him as a player today - clearly not good enough. As with Vertonghen I really don't know what they were up to this summer. Vertonghen went from his best season to being %""%. Rose went from an average season with solid performances in the big games to even worse than Vertonghen. I don't think there is much value left for us in Rose (probably none), but I still respect him. And if he wants to stay for 1.5 years trying to fight his way back he is more then welcome.
Hakkz
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Doesn't matter if he was right or wrong. It was unprofessional.
nailsy
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To be fair no one actually knows that it's Danny Rose who fed the latest info to the journalist. My moneys on Rebekah Vardy.
I appreciate everything Rose has done for this club, he has been a fantastic player for us over the years. However, it's clearly time for him to leave. He is obviously unhappy and if he is a bad egg behind the scenes, the best thing is for him to leave ASAP. He isn't anywhere near the same player he was and this has been the case for a couple of seasons now.
Thank you Danny, I wish you all the best, but it's time to go.
Thank you Danny, I wish you all the best, but it's time to go.
Sure, but does it warrant all this negatively years after?
I rather have football players speaking their mind, being honest etc. risking saying something they might regret, shouldn't have said etc., than having football players saying nothing because they are so afraid something might come out the wrong way.
Even more so from a guy that has been brave and open about some of his personal issues. So he was mentally in a tough place at the time, says something "unprofessional" and now we are not to support him due to that? Says a lot about us if that is the case.
Not that I mind people wanting him gone because they don't think he can contribute any longer on the pitch. That is fair, but you can want that also as you say in a "professional" manner.
Danny1
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Think it's the right time for Rose to depart our club. Has been a good servant of ours over the years but his constant mutterings to the media have left a bit of a sour taste. Personally I don't like airing your dirty laundry in public & professional footballers getting paid an insane amount of money shouldn't do it.
All it does unfortunately is make the club look weak and portrays a bad view of the club. He clearly isn't happy here and maybe has had enough of London, being a Yorkshire lad, so it's definitely the right time for him to go.
All it does unfortunately is make the club look weak and portrays a bad view of the club. He clearly isn't happy here and maybe has had enough of London, being a Yorkshire lad, so it's definitely the right time for him to go.
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You might, many of us don't. Any player will always be representing the club when they conduct interviews. Anything that can be taken as negative or a critisicm can be used against the club for clicks. Like the "training ground bust up".
If he wanted to help spread awareness about depression or whatever, then he can set up/help organizations using money in his own name.
Even if there is a disagreement on that part I don't see how it warrants this kind of negativity.
As for comments being used against the club - they happen anyway. Just recently Alderweireld had to answer that kind of question without any public comments from anyone else triggering it.
That is not a question of spreading awareness. It is recognizing people are not robots. Son loses his head and gets an unnecessary red card. Unprofessional and that warrants criticism, but should we still hold it against him years from now?
Hakkz
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Yeah, it's not just a one time thing. He's been doing it several times. I'll be happy when we can have some peace and quiet again.
BringBack_leGin
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Didn't get bumper transfer when his mate did, has been unprofessional for 2.5 years since.
Loved him in 15/16, his one consistently top class season for the club, but a combination of injuries and poor attitude has meant his best, or anything like, has been increasingly infrequently seen since that year.
I for one won't look back on him fondly. Once he's gone I'm sure I won't be quite so damning about him anymore, and I know I potentially come off as lacking class in posting this way, but I can't feel positively about a guy who has made damaging comments about the club on several occasions, even going back to his time at Sunderland. Part of the package in being made a millionaire to do something the rest of us would dream of is having to hold yourself with a certain dignity and professionalism almost without falter, and Danny Rose has fallen so far short of this test it's untrue. Thanks for the goal v Arsenal, enjoy Newcastle.
Loved him in 15/16, his one consistently top class season for the club, but a combination of injuries and poor attitude has meant his best, or anything like, has been increasingly infrequently seen since that year.
I for one won't look back on him fondly. Once he's gone I'm sure I won't be quite so damning about him anymore, and I know I potentially come off as lacking class in posting this way, but I can't feel positively about a guy who has made damaging comments about the club on several occasions, even going back to his time at Sunderland. Part of the package in being made a millionaire to do something the rest of us would dream of is having to hold yourself with a certain dignity and professionalism almost without falter, and Danny Rose has fallen so far short of this test it's untrue. Thanks for the goal v Arsenal, enjoy Newcastle.
Several?
That one tv interview. And you are counting his comment on the contract situation? More?
$hoguN
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And it was wrong. He effectively suggested that his team mates shouldn’t have been brought in as he didn’t know them by name before meeting
Tweddled
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Statements and opinions like this cost lives. Should've cost me mine too but I got a second chance
Timberwolf
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Can't be denied that it was a stupid interview to do, but that aside I actually respect Rose for his outspoken nature. There aren't too many footballers in the modern game that are as open about how they feel and cut through the bland, bullshit PR speak that seems to permeate every interview these days.
Sure he's not the most professional and he's made some mistakes, but the game would be poorer without players like Rose speaking out honestly about how they feel. His contribution towards mental health in football alone is worth huge respect.
It is pretty obvious that most have a mixed opinion about Danny and don't think that it should be pure negative or positive. He had some great years, some poor ones, gave his all on and off the pitch. Sometimes his off the pitch "all" was detrimental to the team. To those that think this outweighs what he did give it sobeit. It seems to me that the issue is less related to depression as he is fiercely honest but that is admittedly uninformed conjecture. If that is the case than it was poor judgment to give the interview. Like eriksen, it seems most of us will remember the good and great (who can forget that debut) while recognizing he had imperfections.
Sandro30
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Just so you're aware, in the UK severe depression is classed higher on the disability rankings than someone who has suffered a severe stroke with long term consequences because of that. Happy to share the image I took from my workbook from when I did a mental health first aid course 2 weeks ago if you require proof.
spursfan77
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Players stopped giving interesting interviews because journalists spun and manipulated what they've said for sensationalism. So I can understand them being wary of interviews. Rose's wasn't though, it was from the horses mouth. Direct quotes of a trouble making nature, completely different to being misquoted for a headline.
Timberwolf
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I was speaking generally. I completely agree about the stupidity of that particular interview, I was more referring to his media persona in general ie. always outspoken and disarmingly frank.
nailsy
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Considering that he had to play and train with those players the Google comments were really stupid, but I can't knock him for wanting us to bring in big name players that would help us to win something. It was just a really weird interview. You read it and find yourself nodding along in agreement with what he says at some points, but then shaking your head in disbelief at other parts.
