Eric Dier

[muppetman]

Saw this the other day and maybe the pic isn't fair but perhaps this is why he's not so mobile these days

 

[danielneeds]

He very rarely looks anything other than a half decent defender playing in midfield. The sloppy passing under pressure is the most obvious symptom of that.

I could accept him passing poorly when he was pressed by someone like Liverpool or City, but his confidence is so low at the moment he’s just coughing it up under zero pressure.

 

[RichieS]

Saw this the other day and maybe the pic isn't fair but perhaps this is why he's not so mobile these days

He looks like a kid in that first picture!

 

[kremlyn]

There's an awful lot of confirmation bias with Dier. I'm as culpable as anyone on this, I want to see the good and therefore can't see the bad.

Someone rated him as a 2 and pointed out that he'd lost possession 16 times. I didn't see that at all!

In my own pro-dier world I thought he had a good game. We played a very compressed midfield to stop them hurting us on the counter. Classic Mourinho. Punt the ball upfield and let the pace kill them. All their chances came from the flanks which showed the centre is beng properly screened. I thought both winks and dier did that job really well.

The oppo tired and dier came off for Lo Celso who helped us make more of the spaces. It's a classic formula for an away game, executed by the right midfielders at the right time.

I'm still waiting for the beast to be unleashed but he was more mobile today, a good fit for the strategy and put in a couple of tackles and barges that suggest he's finding his feet again.

 

[spursfan77]

Saw this the other day and maybe the pic isn't fair but perhaps this is why he's not so mobile these days

A bit like Kane? He's definitely put on more muscle too.

 

[eViL]

In my own pro-dier world I thought he had a good game. We played a very compressed midfield

Explaining why it was one of the most open games of Premier League football we've seen this season.

Dier has had it.

 

[carpediem991]

Dier wasn't terrible but he contributes not enough to be worth a starting spot in CM. He is not even stabilizing the defense.
Pretty clearly Harry Winks is way much more comfortable and better next to someone like Lo Celso.

If a decent bid comes in in the summer we should seriously think about it.

 

[kremlyn]

Explaining why it was one of the most open games of Premier League football we've seen this season.

Dier has had it.

Not really. I don't think we were that open it's just they were relentless in attack and we countered relentlessly. Before GLC came on dier and winks were fairly withdrawn. There was a lot of ebb and flow but very little penetration through the middle. We were so compact I thought we did a good job of keeping grealish out on the flanks.

Again, it's not pretty when Dier plays but it's effective. There's also the chance that he could improve as he has slowly started to do.

But look, we're all guilty of writing off players too soon, most famously Kaz Hirai writing off Harry Kane. He's clearly useful and trusted by a succession of managers so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt while at the same time wishing he could pass like Xavi.

 

[Primativ]

Again, it's not pretty when Dier plays but it's effective. There's also the chance that he could improve as he has slowly started to do.

He isn't effective at all. He's gash. If we are seriously giving a Spurs CM plaudits for simply throwing his weight around, we've had it.

 

[DogsOfWar]

My view is that football in this country has changed over the last couple of seasons.
A lot of the clubs are no longer just sitting back allowing the opposition time and space, they're pressing high and asking questions of the opposition's ability on the ball.
Dier hasn't particularly got worse, it's just the high energy press further up the pitch has found him out technically.
Liverpool's 3 all-round CMs are probably the best answer and I can see us moving to something similar with 3 out of Winks, Lo Celso, Ndombele, and Gedson filling up the central positions.

 

[allatsea]

Saw this the other day and maybe the pic isn't fair but perhaps this is why he's not so mobile these days

A boy has become a man.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

A boy has become a man.

And in doing so, no longer has the mobility for DM.

He’s got to transition to CB or his days with us are numbered IMO

 

[eViL]

Not really. I don't think we were that open it's just they were relentless in attack and we countered relentlessly. Before GLC came on dier and winks were fairly withdrawn. There was a lot of ebb and flow but very little penetration through the middle. We were so compact I thought we did a good job of keeping grealish out on the flanks.

Again, it's not pretty when Dier plays but it's effective. There's also the chance that he could improve as he has slowly started to do.

But look, we're all guilty of writing off players too soon, most famously Kaz Hirai writing off Harry Kane. He's clearly useful and trusted by a succession of managers so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt while at the same time wishing he could pass like Xavi.

I'd be happy if he could pass like Ben Foster.

 

[kremlyn]

Lol

 

[weststandyid]

Saw this the other day and maybe the pic isn't fair but perhaps this is why he's not so mobile these days

precisely this. actually thought he was pretty mobile when we signed him, tall and lithe. good rb and very good at dm in that first season. dire since.

 

[yankspurs]

precisely this. actually thought he was pretty mobile when we signed him, tall and lithe. good rb and very good at dm in that first season. dire since.

Put him on a marathon training regimen

 

[holmesy]

i re watched yesterdays game and i just saw so much of the game passing him by... it felt like he was always a couple yards off fighting for balls, or simply the play passing him by.. thats so so poor in terms of top league football as a CM..... He needs to be dictating play, but he was lost.....

Needs to revert back to CB for the good of his career and thats not just his Spurs career......

 

[Real_madyidd]

Put him on a marathon training regimen

They are called "snickers" now.

Old school.

 

[theShiznit]

i re watched yesterdays game and i just saw so much of the game passing him by... it felt like he was always a couple yards off fighting for balls, or simply the play passing him by.. thats so so poor in terms of top league football as a CM..... He needs to be dictating play, but he was lost.....

Needs to revert back to CB for the good of his career and thats not just his Spurs career......

Yeah he just can't effect the game defensively or offensively. He's so slow now (to react and move) that he has to take such a defensive line to intercept players that he may as well not be there. And when we are in possession he can't get in the ball as he so easy to close down.

Shame as I was a big fan of his in CDM but his mobility is now damaging him and us.

 

[SpursD22]

I hate this season I hate it so much

Lucas Moura is playing like a 20 year old who you say to yourself give him time, he needs time to develop. His first touch is shit, his passing is woeful fucks every attack up, his movement isn’t good. Painfully average player can’t understand how he starts every game even with our injuries. Tired of watching him every game

And Dier is finished we knew that so why did Mourinho start him? Why did we sign Gedson (nothing against his signing) instead of a DM, the position we need to strengthen the most? Every game it takes one pass from the opponent to get past the midfield and then our defence isn’t good enough to stop most attacks.

Alli is such a frustrating player. His movement is world class but his finishing is so inconsistent and he takes so long with the ball, makes sloppy passes or try a unnecessary nutmeg. He’s not a kid anymore he needs to cut those things of his game now or he will never develop

We need a miracle for top 4 now, fuck this season man