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Player Watch: Juan Foyth

bbunc

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Talented player. My hope is that we maintain his rights or at least a reasonable buyback.

All that said, it’s been 3 years and two different managers and he still can barely see the field. At some point, we have have to make room for other options.

Tanganga makes Foyth redundant especially if we intend to being in another experienced CB to replace Vertonghen.
 

JKendall13

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Levy is holding out for 20m for KWP, he’s not going to sell Foyth for 10m. Especially considering that’s close to the sum we bought him for.
 

$hoguN

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I think if we are going to keep Foyth you have to accept that there is a steep learning curve for him and that you have to be willing to back him through that if you want to see the player he has the potential to be. The big problem is that his learning curve will come with a lot of moments that cost the team, and I’m not sure Jose believes in that sort of risk reward scenario when players such as Tanganga (who perhaps doesn’t have as high of a ceiling but can deliver now) are on the books.

For me, when making the choice you have to leave it to the manager. Jose will want to make big changes to what is a sub par squad, mismanaged by Pochettino. Some favourites will go, but there will always be new fan favourites.
 

spids

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I really want him to get 6 games on spin at RB. Once he plays regularly I think he will be brilliant. If we sign this dutch winger then maybe we don't need such an offensive RB who gets caught out of position?

Lloris/Gazza
Foyth/Aurier Toby/Dier Sanchez/Vertonghen Tanganga/Davies
Gedson/Sissoko Ndombele/Winks
Lo Celso/Dele/Lamela
Bergwijn/Moura-----------------Son/Sessegnon
Kane/Striker​
 

worcestersauce

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I really want him to get 6 games on spin at RB. Once he plays regularly I think he will be brilliant. If we sign this dutch winger then maybe we don't need such an offensive RB who gets caught out of position?

Lloris/Gazza
Foyth/Aurier Toby/Dier Sanchez/Vertonghen Tanganga/Davies
Gedson/Sissoko Ndombele/Winks
Lo Celso/Dele/Lamela
Bergwijn/Moura-----------------Son/Sessegnon
Kane/Striker​
I don't see Tanganga at left back at all, he's played he's a centre back who is better at right back than Foyth so I really don't see why we'd want to put him on the left just to accommodate Foyth.
 

spids

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I don't see Tanganga at left back at all, he's played he's a centre back who is better at right back than Foyth so I really don't see why we'd want to put him on the left just to accommodate Foyth.

From current playing staff I see Foyth as potentially our best RB who can dominate a winger - as he did to Sterling away at City last season. I named that example team as one without buying a DCM or FBs which is ultimately what we need to do. The real point I was making is that I think we’d be more solid defensively with Foyth at RB than Aurier.
 

chrisd2k

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I think he'd look good in another league and then struggle back in the EPL if it was a loan. He just doesnt look strong enough to me
 

yido_number1

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I think he'd look good in another league and then struggle back in the EPL if it was a loan. He just doesnt look strong enough to me
I don't think it's strength, it's mainly overplaying the ball at the moment. Important to remember how young he is compared to others in the league. At some point he will make a fine CB but no ready for where we are at the moment. Shame Mourinho didn't try him at RB more he would have been fine there. Either way happy for Tanganga to come through and smash it!
 

Gollorius

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I don't see Tanganga at left back at all, he's played he's a centre back who is better at right back than Foyth so I really don't see why we'd want to put him on the left just to accommodate Foyth.
Also, we have an actual left back. His name is Ben Davies, he has 52 international caps, hundreds of Premier league appearances and is the only outfield player in our squad to have (in this country) won one of those shiny things called a trophy.
 
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Timberwolf

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Levy is holding out for 20m for KWP, he’s not going to sell Foyth for 10m. Especially considering that’s close to the sum we bought him for.
Especially now that he's a full international and has a fair amount of CL and EPL experience under his belt. Sure, he's not the finished article, but his ceiling is so much higher than KWP and we'd be mad to let him go on the cheap. I'd be amazed if Levy sold him for the same amount we bought him for unless there are absurd clauses in there (think 80% sell-on fee or something nuts).

That said, I don't think it's a huge surprise we're struggling to move on KWP at £20M. I think £15M is more realistic given the questions about his physicality.
 

Japhet

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Don't want him sold at all. Think that would be a massive mistake. Maybe a loan to a decent team would be tha making of him but he has all the ingredients to be a real class act IMO.
 

spursfan77

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Being linked with West Ham on loan along with KWP. Only reason I could see us letting him go is if we pull their pants down on the loan fee.
 

Gspurs11

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Levy: "Hello, David. Loan to West Ham? Of course, that'll be £46m for a 6-month loan deal with no option. How does that sound? Great, we'll send the paperwork over now."
 

Phomesy

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Always agreed with Think Tank that Foyth would have made a great CDM - just wish we could have got more out of him. Kid's got talent.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I think if we are going to keep Foyth you have to accept that there is a steep learning curve for him and that you have to be willing to back him through that if you want to see the player he has the potential to be. The big problem is that his learning curve will come with a lot of moments that cost the team, and I’m not sure Jose believes in that sort of risk reward scenario when players such as Tanganga (who perhaps doesn’t have as high of a ceiling but can deliver now) are on the books.

For me, when making the choice you have to leave it to the manager. Jose will want to make big changes to what is a sub par squad, mismanaged by Pochettino. Some favourites will go, but there will always be new fan favourites.
Jose is all about the now or the near now and forth is no where near where we need him to be.
i like him though and Worth a loan out I think, see if he comes back a complete player
 

Ron Burgundy

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Jun 19, 2008
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I think he'd look good in another league and then struggle back in the EPL if it was a loan. He just doesnt look strong enough to me

I think that could well be right for CB. But not for midfield.

For the life of me I can't understand why he's not being given a go at DM. I really don't get it
 
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