Player Watch Player Watch: Ryan Sessegnon

[ILS]

In all seriousness, Jose doesn't see Sess as a LB in the sense of Davies in the defensive role, he has said before he can see him doing the Aurier type role. We've suffered injuries to Foyth and Tanganga and therefore we can't reverse it unless we want to try somebody like Alderweireld there.

The question is why not buy two full backs on either side that can do both jobs or at least have the potential to defend and attack? He has structured the tactics for the defence based on the strengths and weaknesses for both Aurier and Davies as this is what he currently has to work with. I think if he gets chance he will buy two new full backs in the transfer window.

 

[wrd]

The question is why not buy two full backs on either side that can do both jobs or at least have the potential to defend and attack? He has structured the tactics for the defence based on the strengths and weaknesses for both Aurier and Davies as this is what he currently has to work with. I think if he gets chance he will buy two new full backs in the transfer window.

He hasn't had a summer window yet and has had 2 injuries to two players who could have played fullback

 

[Cochise]

I'm with @ILS on the lad. I cannot fathom where he fits in right now as he doesn't seem to naturally fit as either a LB nor a LWF. I think he has a good head on his shoulders and understands the tactical side, but it's that ability to put himself about that is obviously lacking. I felt the same went for Onomah, who despite being physically imposing (in the youth age groups) did not use it.

 

[dontcallme]

I'm with @ILS on the lad. I cannot fathom where he fits in right now as he doesn't seem to naturally fit as either a LB nor a LWF. I think he has a good head on his shoulders and understands the tactical side, but it's that ability to put himself about that is obviously lacking. I felt the same went for Onomah, who despite being physically imposing (in the youth age groups) did not use it.

It's an interesting one. I have seen signs of Lo Celso, Winks and Sessegnon thriving in a team that wants to dominate the ball and ball and move.

But that isn't how I see us playing under Jose.

 

[ILS]

I'm with @ILS on the lad. I cannot fathom where he fits in right now as he doesn't seem to naturally fit as either a LB nor a LWF. I think he has a good head on his shoulders and understands the tactical side, but it's that ability to put himself about that is obviously lacking. I felt the same went for Onomah, who despite being physically imposing (in the youth age groups) did not use it.

He can't play as a wide forward as he does not have the ability to beat a man . Also his body shape is so rigid the times he has been asked to go out on the right at Fulham or England he ends up lost.

He was in a Fulham team facing relegation, however not once did he have a performance or even a 20 min spell when you thought this lad is a star. He actually ended up being benched which the media tried to say it was due to his age but his performances were not up to the required level. All the hype on this board came from the Media bigging him up to something he has never been.

His ideal position would be as a left midfielder in a four four two very similar to what Dwight McNeil plays for Burnley, however not many teams play that way.

 

[JayB]

A friend of mine recently made an observation that hadn't occurred to me: We've invested more than just money in Sessegnon, we also invested a lot of time and (potentially wasted) opportunity in waiting to secure his signing.

We were first strongly linked with Sessgnon by ITK in the summer of 2017, but didn't complete the deal. He then had a Championship Player of the Season campaign and Fulham won promotion and refused to sell him. So in the end we had waited a full two years to sign him, during which time we easily could have invested in some other young talent at the LB position.

Given how much has gone into his signing, and how many constraints we're operating under in the market this summer, I think we have to give him a chance at LB next season and let him sink or swim. Although I agree our fullback play this season has been miles away from good enough, I just don't see us having the resources to make additional investments on the left, at least for the time being.

 

[ILS]

A friend of mine recently made an observation that hadn't occurred to me: We've invested more than just money in Sessegnon, we also invested a lot of time and (potentially wasted) opportunity in waiting to secure his signing.

We were first strongly linked with Sessgnon by ITK in the summer of 2017, but didn't complete the deal. He then had a Championship Player of the Season campaign and Fulham won promotion and refused to sell him. So in the end we had waited a full two years to sign him, during which time we easily could have invested in some other young talent at the LB position.

Given how much has gone into his signing, and how many constraints we're operating under in the market this summer, I think we have to give him a chance at LB next season and let him sink or swim. Although I agree our fullback play this season has been miles away from good enough, I just don't see us having the resources to make additional investments on the left, at least for the time being.

The championship player of the year award proves that the hype train around him was purely media led. Cairney, Maddison and Neves were far superior then him in that season yet because he was the great English young hope he won an award based on scoring rebounds. He actually got into that the championship 11 as a left back and hardly played in that position.

 

[king26]

lets not write of a young player we have done it to much in the past

 

[ILS]

lets not write of a young player we have done it to much in the past

If Poch was still.our manager then he would get his opportunity to prove himself. I just can't see it happening with Jose.

 

[oskathegobshite]

I remember him coming on in the game where we beat Fulham heavily in the cup at Craven Cottage

I was at the game and I focused on his performance because we had been linked. To me he looked way out of his depth (granted he was, and is, very young)

Since we signed him I have seen very little to suggest he can be a player here. I would like to see him get a few games wide left against poor opposition to blood him in properly but I haven't been impressed at all so far

 

[Dirtysanchez6]

This is a guy who won championship player of the year at the age of 17/18 not even just young player the full award bagging 16 goals in the process and some of our fans think he is kwp level ! To do that there is something special about you! People saying he can’t play wing forward guy bagged 16 goals of course he can and just ask mitrovic about his crossing

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I'm not sure why people still think he is a fullback ...

Big fan of him, like other players in this squad, needs a run of games and needs a set position. We never seem to have a 'road map' for players we buy lately. It's fucking ridiculous.

 

[$hoguN]

I think we signed him to be a fullback and I think that’s where we will use him. I think he needs time to settle and will allow us to play a similar system to now, with him pushed up and a RB sitting in.

 

[ILS]

This is a guy who won championship player of the year at the age of 17/18 not even just young player the full award bagging 16 goals in the process and some of our fans think he is kwp level ! To do that there is something special about you! People saying he can’t play wing forward guy bagged 16 goals of course he can and just ask mitrovic about his crossing

He won championship player due to being English and the next big thing according to the media. As I have said in a post above Neves , Cairney and Maddison were far superior that season but weren't the name being touted round for a big move everyday of the week.

People keep saying he is young...The lad has played far more senior games then the following in his age group ..Sancho, Hudson Odoi, Foden, Gibbs White and yet at 17 was a bigger name then these four.

During his time in the premiership at no stage with Fulham or Spurs, even in a five minute spell have I seen a future England star which is what he was being built up to be.

His best attribute is his finishing which proved it against Bayern but rest of his game is seriously lacking. Send him out on loan next season to a Palace type and hopefully he can step up.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

He won championship player due to being English and the next big thing according to the media. As I have said in a post above Neves , Cairney and Maddison were far superior that season but weren't the name being touted round for a big move everyday of the week.

People keep saying he is young...The lad has played far more senior games then the following in his age group ..Sancho, Hudson Odoi, Foden, Gibbs White and yet at 17 was a bigger name then these four.

During his time in the premiership at no stage with Fulham or Spurs, even in a five minute spell have I not seen a future England star which is what he was being built up to be.

His best attribute is his finishing which proved it against Bayern but rest of his game is seriously lacking. Send him out on loan next season to a Palace type and hopefully he can step up.

Interesting takes.

I will ask you though - you loan him out - what are you loaning him out as?

People keep on talking like he is a fullback ... He made his name further up the pitch, won the award you claim he wrong or rightly deserved for scoring goals and playing in the attacking third - who ever loans him need to have a better idea than us, his parent club, as to what he is meant to be, exactly. I'd say that would be detrimental, now, to his development.

 

[ILS]

Interesting takes.

I will ask you though - you loan him out - what are you loaning him out as?

People keep on talking like he is a fullback ... He made his name further up the pitch, won the award you claim he wrong or rightly deserved for scoring goals and playing in the attacking third - who ever loans him need to have a better idea than us, his parent club, as to what he is meant to be, exactly. I'd say that would be detrimental, now, to his development.

You make a very valid point..what is he?
As mentioned in a previous post, i think he would be best off on the left side of midfield in a 4-4-2 similar to McNeil at Burnley. Problem is how many teams play 4-4-2 these days?

People say play him as a LWF but the way that position plays allows for a right footed player or at least a two footed player with either the trickery or ability to beat someone. Sess is a pass and move player. I have never seen him roast a right back once as he is not a very good dribbler.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

You make a very valid point..what is he?
As mentioned in a previous post, i think he would be best off on the left side of midfield in a 4-4-2 similar to McNeil at Burnley. Problem is how many teams play 4-4-2 these days?

People say play him as a LWF but the way that position plays allows for a right footed player or at least a two footed player with either the trickery or ability to beat someone. Sess is a pass and move player. I have never seen him roast a right back once as he is not a very good dribbler.

I feel sorry for him.

(my opinion) think he has the talent to make it if we can cement what he is going to be playing as for us. Until we figure that out, he is in limbo.

You mention McNeil, thought he stood out last night in patches against City. Another young player I'd like to see wearing a Spurs shirt. Shame we now seem to have an abundance of wide players, evidently some we have no idea what to do with them.

Typical Spurs!

 

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[spursfan77]

We signed a player for a lot of money who we didn’t know where to play or didnt really need or isn’t good enough yet. Sums up quite a few of our transfers under Poch.

Get him a PL loan next season. Get him more games, same as Foyth, same as Skipp. No more pissing about with these boys’ careers.

 

[dontcallme]

We signed a player for a lot of money who we didn’t know where to play or didnt really need or isn’t good enough yet. Sums up quite a few of our transfers under Poch.

Get him a PL loan next season. Get him more games, same as Foyth, same as Skipp. No more pissing about with these boys’ careers.

The thing that concerns me is the lack of a plan for some of our players. I actually think Sessegnon has good potential but I just don't see where he fits into our team.

He's not aggressive enough to be a defender. If he replaces Son when he leaves then we are losing a fair amount of goals.