Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

[danielneeds]

I hate to say this but it's been bugging me since we first signed him, I can't help making comparisons between this scenario and the Aurier v Ricardo Pereira comparisons, I remember saying at the time on here when we opted for Aurier over RP that only time will tell who made the better signing when they were both potentially available to us or Leicester, and I think I know who clearly got the better deal.

I was thinking the exact same thing when they opted for Tillemans and we went for Tanguy. Who is going to get the better deal in the long run, us or Leicester, as much I try to avoid it I can't help making comparisons between the two, and Tillemans was on offer for less. They are both similar ages, they both looked really good prospects.
I hope we end up getting the better deal in the long run, but I can't help having my doubts and there's no doubt already that Tillemans has made a great start in his first year in the PL.

Tiellemans has been dropped for Praet recently due to poor form. Ndombele can be twice the player. He’s got similar passing vision, but he’s got the quick feet and burst of pace that the Leicester man hasn’t.

 

[JakeCOYS]

I hate to say this but it's been bugging me since we first signed him, I can't help making comparisons between this scenario and the Aurier v Ricardo Pereira comparisons, I remember saying at the time on here when we opted for Aurier over RP that only time will tell who made the better signing when they were both potentially available to us or Leicester, and I think I know who clearly got the better deal.

I was thinking the exact same thing when they opted for Tillemans and we went for Tanguy. Who is going to get the better deal in the long run, us or Leicester, as much I try to avoid it I can't help making comparisons between the two, and Tillemans was on offer for less. They are both similar ages, they both looked really good prospects.
I hope we end up getting the better deal in the long run, but I can't help having my doubts and there's no doubt already that Tillemans has made a great start in his first year in the PL.

N'Dombele is sooo much better than Tielemans.

 

[TommyGee]

I hate to say this but it's been bugging me since we first signed him, I can't help making comparisons between this scenario and the Aurier v Ricardo Pereira comparisons, I remember saying at the time on here when we opted for Aurier over RP that only time will tell who made the better signing when they were both potentially available to us or Leicester, and I think I know who clearly got the better deal.

I was thinking the exact same thing when they opted for Tillemans and we went for Tanguy. Who is going to get the better deal in the long run, us or Leicester, as much I try to avoid it I can't help making comparisons between the two, and Tillemans was on offer for less. They are both similar ages, they both looked really good prospects.
I hope we end up getting the better deal in the long run, but I can't help having my doubts and there's no doubt already that Tillemans has made a great start in his first year in the PL.

I'd take Ndombele over Tielemans every day, he is absolute mustard.

Ndombele is just unfortunate and picked up an injury and the usual online hyperbole has followed.

Remember reading through the wild speculation when Lamela was out that he had failed a drug tested that was being covered up by the club, that his brother was kidnapped and was being held for ransom, that he had fallen into a deep depression because his dog had died.

Now it's Ndombele's time and he's a hypochondriac, has attitude problems and Jose doesn't rate him.

Like with Lamela the obvious explanation is usually the right one. Maybe he's simply been injured, however inconvenient it is.

 

[Trees]

Tiellemans has been dropped for Praet recently due to poor form. Ndombele can be twice the player. He’s got similar passing vision, but he’s got the quick feet and burst of pace that the Leicester man hasn’t.

When he’s on the pitch.

 

[spursfan77]

New flash: human being works his bollcoks off in training amongst concerns over his fitness, looks tired, gets panned for it.....

The other thought is that they posted those photos to show he’s working hard. That would be the positive take.

 

[thekneaf]

Tielemans has also had much longer to adapt and had a nice upswing of positivity at the club he joined rather than a complete shambles. I still think Ndombele has a much much higher ceiling

 

[djee]

Frightening to imagine how good (a fit) Ndmobele will be. He will thrive with Lo Celso next to him and the fluidity/movement of Son, Dele and Bergwijn ahead.

 

[1882andallthat]

N'Dombele is sooo much better than Tielemans.

It may be true to say that N'Dombele has the potential to be a better player, but what I was really on about was will he go on to represent better value pound for pound in relation to how much time he will be on the pitch for making valued contributions in the midfield which could also include goal assists.

Much will depend in the long run as to who can play as much without fitness concerns or injuries.

Tillemans at the moment represents better value based on his initial impact on Leicester as compared with Tanguy's impact for us, and it's arguable that if we'd signed Tielemans instead he is likely to have contributed more for us thus far, but as many have alluded to, that may change if fitness issues are addressed and Tanguy can have a consistent run in the team without injuries, and on that point we will have to wait to see how that pans out.

 

[Chimbo!]

ITs just far too early to judge Ndombele. I recall possibly Poch saying it may take one or two years for him to adapt. We have to be patient. And of course he’s already had the upheaval of a new manager so it’s a tough start for him.

I think the key for him isgetting a run of games and finding form before the end of the season so that he has a good base for next season.

 

[Ronwol196061]

ITs just far too early to judge Ndombele. I recall possibly Poch saying it may take one or two years for him to adapt. We have to be patient. And of course he’s already had the upheaval of a new manager so it’s a tough start for him.

I think the key for him isgetting a run of games and finding form before the end of the season so that he has a good base for next season.

Poch would have probably said the same at least about Tanganga

 

[Ronwol196061]

Cant wait to see NDombele fully fit and using his magic

 

[danielneeds]

It may be true to say that N'Dombele has the potential to be a better player, but what I was really on about was will he go on to represent better value pound for pound in relation to how much time he will be on the pitch for making valued contributions in the midfield which could also include goal assists.

Much will depend in the long run as to who can play as much without fitness concerns or injuries.

Tillemans at the moment represents better value based on his initial impact on Leicester as compared with Tanguy's impact for us, and it's arguable that if we'd signed Tielemans instead he is likely to have contributed more for us thus far, but as many have alluded to, that may change if fitness issues are addressed and Tanguy can have a consistent run in the team without injuries, and on that point we will have to wait to see how that pans out.

So, we should use a magical hindsight blackbox to tell us when a player will be injured when looking to make a signing? Great idea.

 

[1882andallthat]

So, we should use a magical hindsight blackbox to tell us when a player will be injured when looking to make a signing? Great idea.

I'm not saying that at all, that is clearly impossible, I'm saying that I hope we haven't made wrong choice and it doesn't end up like the Aurier / Pereira co
parallels in a couple of years down the line, where one buy ends up far less productive than another when we were looking at both options.
As I said only time will tell, and hopefully we will end up with the better buy this time around in the long run, but there's no getting away from the fact that initially at least Tielemans has aclimatised more quickly and has proven to be more valuable for them.

 

[danielneeds]

I'm not saying that at all, that is clearly impossible, I'm saying that I hope we haven't made wrong choice and it doesn't end up like the Aurier / Pereira co
parallels in a couple of years down the line, where one buy ends up far less productive than another when we were looking at both options.
As I said only time will tell, and hopefully we will end up with the better buy this time around in the long run, but there's no getting away from the fact that initially at least Tielemans has aclimatised more quickly and has proven to be more valuable for them.

The Aurier/Perreira comparison is moot to me. Aurier was a lot more experienced but his flaws were very obvious, whereas Perreira had been playing midfield as much as RB in France and was more of an unknown quantity. We just got the scouting wrong.

 

[Ronwol196061]

I'm not saying that at all, that is clearly impossible, I'm saying that I hope we haven't made wrong choice and it doesn't end up like the Aurier / Pereira co
parallels in a couple of years down the line, where one buy ends up far less productive than another when we were looking at both options.
As I said only time will tell, and hopefully we will end up with the better buy this time around in the long run, but there's no getting away from the fact that initially at least Tielemans has aclimatised more quickly and has proven to be more valuable for them.

Creative players have a negative side of them too. They are not as good at discipline.
Gazza was brilliant. Would you not want him. Ok his problem wasnt physical but still his genius was special

 

[WiganSpur]

Frightening to imagine how good (a fit) Ndmobele will be. He will thrive with Lo Celso next to him and the fluidity/movement of Son, Dele and Bergwijn ahead.

There is no doubt about this. But I think the question is whether he will ever get to that point of consistent peak fitness.

 

[cliff jones]

You could say the same thing about GLC representing less value than Tielemens as it stands. But what’s the point? Get behind Tanguy and the rest of the team.

 

[DCSPUR64]

Tanguy Ndombele looked sharp in training, today, encouraging.

 

[dtxspurs]

Surely ready to start on Sunday right?

 

[jordibwoy]

Tanguy Ndombele looked sharp in training, today, encouraging.

Which video is this? I'm unable to find the video anywhere