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Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

SpartanSpur

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For £40m I’d rather keep him for a year and sell for the rerelease clause of £25m next summer, IF Pochettino and him can make up of course.

Inclined to agree on £40m, someone could panic in January and pay that much.

I don't think it's legit however when they've supposedly been quoted more for lesser targets.
 

Ossie'sAardvark

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1. He may have privately
2. I think its the last thing the club would want - the situation is all very under the radar at the moment and I imagine we like it that way.
I just don't want him to make a penny more. If greed was his motive, his pocket is where it'll hurt most.
 

Rout-Ledge

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Inclined to agree on £40m, someone could panic in January and pay that much.

I don't think it's legit however when they've supposedly been quoted more for lesser targets.

My strong suspicion is that they have no other serious target. Leicester won't sell Maguire at this stage and every other mooted target is significantly lesser than Toby in quality. If we hold our nerve then Mourinho will insist on a swap on deadline day and we will get Martial. I'm hoping the club is thinking this way too.
 

Ossie'sAardvark

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My strong suspicion is that they have no other serious target. Leicester won't sell Maguire at this stage and every other mooted target is significantly lesser than Toby in quality. If we hold our nerve then Mourinho will insist on a swap on deadline day and we will get Martial. I'm hoping the club is thinking this way too.
Please please please, be this!
 

SpartanSpur

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My strong suspicion is that they have no other serious target. Leicester won't sell Maguire at this stage and every other mooted target is significantly lesser than Toby in quality. If we hold our nerve then Mourinho will insist on a swap on deadline day and we will get Martial. I'm hoping the club is thinking this way too.

It's very clear he's their top target, even on SSN where they hardly mention him they had a correspondent at OT who brought Toby in his round up basically saying they are very interested but as no bids have been made they aren't running the story.

I think they were hoping Maguire would give them leverage but Leicester actually asked for £80m. Levy saw straight through Mina and I think most people in football think Boateng is on his way down (you'd think Utd would have learned that lesson with Schweinsteiger).
 

RuskyM

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Yep, no one would be better than Toby, a player that doesn't want to be here, a player the manager would rather not be here and also a player that apparently disrespected the club and possibly his team mates per hints from ITK. Recipe for success right there.

Could accept he's been a dickhead but I'm a fan of our club, and Toby's the best defender I've seen at our club. Simple fact is whoever we bring in will not be as good as Toby, therefore our team will get worse and our rivals team will get better. You need to mediate sometimes and not shoot yourself in the foot.
 

jay2040

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Could accept he's been a dickhead but I'm a fan of our club, and Toby's the best defender I've seen at our club. Simple fact is whoever we bring in will not be as good as Toby, therefore our team will get worse and our rivals team will get better. You need to mediate sometimes and not shoot yourself in the foot.

You know he was absent for most of last season? Poch and the team have moved on, maybe you should too buddy!
 

RuskyM

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You know he was absent for most of last season? Poch and the team have moved on, maybe you should too buddy!

I remember this argument when Walker went, how Trippier was easily as good and we wouldn't miss him.

There is a very good reason as to why Mourinho wants him so badly and that's exactly why we shouldn't sell him to them.
 

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No one we get would be as good as Toby. We're not in dire straits so I'd rather we don't make us worse, make our rivals better, and end up inflating Levy's balance sheet.

Just cannot see any way of defending selling him to them.

Your right in that Toby is a very good player and i don't want him to go but the point is we still got to where we were without Toby last season.

I don't think it weakens us that much but the move would definitely strengthen them and that's what i've got a problem with.
 

Monkey boy

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Could accept he's been a dickhead but I'm a fan of our club, and Toby's the best defender I've seen at our club. Simple fact is whoever we bring in will not be as good as Toby, therefore our team will get worse and our rivals team will get better. You need to mediate sometimes and not shoot yourself in the foot.

Ledley, Sol and I would even say Vertonghen were all better than Toby as far as I’m concerned.
 

RuskyM

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Ledley, Sol and I would even say Vertonghen were all better than Toby as far as I’m concerned.

Gonna disagree, don't remember much of Sol but whilst Ledley was terrific I feel his injuries gave him more of a mythical status and Vertonghen always looks best with Alderweireld (granted was good last season with Sanchez but not a risk I'd want to see us take again).
 

Ossie'sAardvark

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Could accept he's been a dickhead but I'm a fan of our club, and Toby's the best defender I've seen at our club. Simple fact is whoever we bring in will not be as good as Toby, therefore our team will get worse and our rivals team will get better. You need to mediate sometimes and not shoot yourself in the foot.
Almost all ITK's have said what he's done is atrocious. I can't see him in a Spurs shirt again, maybe if we experience a catastrophically bad injury hit season.
 

RuskyM

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Almost all ITK's have said what he's done is atrocious. I can't see him in a Spurs shirt again, maybe if we experience a catastrophically bad injury hit season.

All due respect but surely something would've come out? Courtois misses a day of training and it's already news. Could it just be the club trying to make reasons as to why we'd strengthen a rival?
 

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Almost all ITK's have said what he's done is atrocious. I can't see him in a Spurs shirt again, maybe if we experience a catastrophically bad injury hit season.

If we can't shift him before the window closes of course he'll play. He played at the back end of last season didn't he? Its not like he's been frozen out completely.
 

SpartanSpur

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Could accept he's been a dickhead but I'm a fan of our club, and Toby's the best defender I've seen at our club. Simple fact is whoever we bring in will not be as good as Toby, therefore our team will get worse and our rivals team will get better. You need to mediate sometimes and not shoot yourself in the foot.

He could be prime Paolo Maldini but if he doesn't want to be here then he's not going to be at his best, and it certainly doesn't bode well for team morale. I'd be happy if the club and he could make up but it seems pretty clear from media and ITK that both sides aren't interested in that any more.

Sucks but it's all his doing not the club's in this case. I'm not sure us bending over to reintegrate Toby is the right thing to do, no man is bigger than the club. Especially when we have such a talented young replacement already bedded in.
 

Ben1

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If we can't shift him before the window closes of course he'll play. He played at the back end of last season didn't he? Its not like he's been frozen out completely.
This has always been the point of interest for me. He played towards the end and was never totally out of the picture/ hasn't gone missing from training completely. If the rumours were true about his behaviour and the club were that angry, I'd be shocked if Poch was that open.
 

RuskyM

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He could be prime Paolo Maldini but if he doesn't want to be here then he's not going to be at his best, and it certainly doesn't bode well for team morale. I'd be happy if the club and he could make up but it seems pretty clear from media and ITK that both sides aren't interested in that any more.

Sucks but it's all his doing not the club's in this case. I'm not sure us bending over to reintegrate Toby is the right thing to do, no man is bigger than the club. Especially when we have such a talented young replacement already bedded in.

He's a professional footballer paid to play well, Modric had one of his best seasons here after he was denied a move. I don't think accommodating one of your best players (or at least not strengthening one of the two teams above us) is bending over - I think it's putting the quality of the squad first.
 

Ossie'sAardvark

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All due respect but surely something would've come out? Courtois misses a day of training and it's already news. Could it just be the club trying to make reasons as to why we'd strengthen a rival?
I don't actually know myself mate TBH...but most if not all who know our club more intimately than I are singing off the same hymn sheet. Whatever he's done,....he's been very naughty. DL & MP don't want him.
My ideal would be exactly the same as most, make up and rub along. Aint gonna happen though buddy.:(
 

swarvsta

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Gonna disagree, don't remember much of Sol but whilst Ledley was terrific I feel his injuries gave him more of a mythical status and Vertonghen always looks best with Alderweireld (granted was good last season with Sanchez but not a risk I'd want to see us take again).


Toby is a great defender, but better than Ledley? Come on...!

It’s not mythical status, Ledley when fit was unbelievably good.
 

Rout-Ledge

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With not even a hint from the insiders, I'm genuinely struggling to see what could've been so awful about what he did. He's always maintained a professional public persona so whatever it was must've been completely in private. He's never refused to train or to play. It must surely have been something he said? Footballers have always said and done pretty outrageous things behind closed doors and if he's apologised for whatever it was then is that really as bad as refusing to play?
 
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