Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

[Sweech]

Playing against lightning quick attackers tends to have that optical effect

Yeah it’s sort of like people blaming KWP for the Sterling goal.

That goal is near impossible to defend. KDB essentially first times a cross from a position some aren’t expecting a cross to come from to one of the most lightning quick players in world football. Anyone saying KWP needs to track his runner is forgetting 1) how fast that runner is and 2) you can’t just follow everyone or you’d break your own team’s offside trap.

 

[King of the Lane]

Yeah it’s sort of like people blaming KWP for the Sterling goal.

That goal is near impossible to defend. KDB essentially first times a cross from a position some aren’t expecting a cross to come from to one of the most lightning quick players in world football. Anyone saying KWP needs to track his runner is forgetting 1) how fast that runner is and 2) you can’t just follow everyone or you’d break your own team’s offside trap.

Its more of the fact that when you watch the replay KWP doesnt know where Sterling is or that he has got in behind him. The whole defence were ball watching - granted it was an amazing cross but there was zero anticipation from anyone.

 

[dtxspurs]

Its more of the fact that when you watch the replay KWP doesnt know where Sterling is or that he has got in behind him. The whole defence were ball watching - granted it was an amazing cross but there was zero anticipation from anyone.

And Sissoko was in complete no mans land not tracking either runner.

 

[DaSpurs]

Its more of the fact that when you watch the replay KWP doesnt know where Sterling is or that he has got in behind him. The whole defence were ball watching - granted it was an amazing cross but there was zero anticipation from anyone.

This is true, but the line reaches a point they’re supposed to hold on a cross which maintains a seamed balance between maintaining an offsides trap and pushes the space into such a narrow amount that if the ball goes in behind, the keeper can get it or at least beat a runner to it.

The problem with this goal was the absolute precision of the cross to get it beyond the back line and over the goal enough to get it past Lloris having a chance to close. It was simply a perfect cross from one of the best in the world at delivering them, to a perfect target in an incredibly rapid player capable of getting to such a narrow window in a tiny amount of time.

 

[stevel]

Yeah it’s sort of like people blaming KWP for the Sterling goal.

That goal is near impossible to defend. KDB essentially first times a cross from a position some aren’t expecting a cross to come from to one of the most lightning quick players in world football. Anyone saying KWP needs to track his runner is forgetting 1) how fast that runner is and 2) you can’t just follow everyone or you’d break your own team’s offside trap.

I don't blame KWP that much. Great cross and great finish. But at the point de Bruyne hits the ball holding the line for offside is no longer relevant. So at that point KWP should have run to try and get to the ball at the far post, regardless of whether he knew what Sterling was doing. When making that run if he sees noones attacking the ball he can let it go. He probably wouldn't have beaten Sterling to the ball but he may have been able to get between him and the goal. Should be a learning for him.

 

[Sweech]

I don't blame KWP that much. Great cross and great finish. But at the point de Bruyne hits the ball holding the line for offside is no longer relevant. So at that point KWP should have run to try and get to the ball at the far post, regardless of whether he knew what Sterling was doing. When making that run if he sees noones attacking the ball he can let it go. He probably wouldn't have beaten Sterling to the ball but he may have been able to get between him and the goal. Should be a learning for him.

I still don’t really agree there. That was a hell of a curling cross and you can’t really tell your players to just run at their own goal each time a cross comes in.

To me any criticism is with 100% hindsight. To me that was just a heck of a ball and pretty much a nearly unstoppable move.

 

[Mark_147]

I don't blame KWP that much. Great cross and great finish. But at the point de Bruyne hits the ball holding the line for offside is no longer relevant. So at that point KWP should have run to try and get to the ball at the far post, regardless of whether he knew what Sterling was doing. When making that run if he sees noones attacking the ball he can let it go. He probably wouldn't have beaten Sterling to the ball but he may have been able to get between him and the goal. Should be a learning for him.

If the cross had come down the opposite side and trippier was playing he would of got the blame for leaving too much space for the cross.

 

[worcestersauce]

When deBruyne first struck that ball I bet everyone thought it was heading towards the goal keeper as it was but what nobody knew was that he had stuck a boomerang in it and it just curled away again, bugger blaming anyone just admire the man and his class, how the fuck he hasn't been voted player of the year I don't know. This is a big season for Kyle and given the opportunity he'll learn so much and the first thing is not to stress over what you can't prevent as long as you are doing right thing.
Edit:
And the observant among you will cotton on to the fact that I thought I was in the KWP thread.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

Bizarre claim this. Haven’t heard of the journalist, and nowhere else picking up on such reports, so 99% sure this is bull. But thought it worth sharing anyway.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9792121/tottenham-news-alderweireld-new-contract/

DEAL ME IN Tottenham confident Toby Alderweireld will sign new contract extension at the club

TOTTENHAM are growing increasingly confident that Toby Alderweireld will sign a new contract extension at the club.

The Belgium centre-back’s deal runs out in the summer but there is a belief at Spurs that he will agree fresh terms.

 

[dtxspurs]

Bizarre claim this. Haven’t heard of the journalist, and nowhere else picking up on such reports, so 99% sure this is bull. But thought it worth sharing anyway.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9792121/tottenham-news-alderweireld-new-contract/

DEAL ME IN Tottenham confident Toby Alderweireld will sign new contract extension at the club

TOTTENHAM are growing increasingly confident that Toby Alderweireld will sign a new contract extension at the club.

The Belgium centre-back’s deal runs out in the summer but there is a belief at Spurs that he will agree fresh terms.

Would be so great, I'm low key nervous about next years defense with the possibility of having Sanchez and Foyth at CB who knows at RB and maybe Sessegnon at LB?

 

[synththfc]

Bizarre claim this. Haven’t heard of the journalist, and nowhere else picking up on such reports, so 99% sure this is bull. But thought it worth sharing anyway.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9792121/tottenham-news-alderweireld-new-contract/

DEAL ME IN Tottenham confident Toby Alderweireld will sign new contract extension at the club

TOTTENHAM are growing increasingly confident that Toby Alderweireld will sign a new contract extension at the club.

The Belgium centre-back’s deal runs out in the summer but there is a belief at Spurs that he will agree fresh terms.

Mike McGrath is the Sun's lead football journo, I'm certain.

 

[Primativ]

Mike McGrath is the Sun's lead football journo, I'm certain.

Pretty sure that is actually Neil Custis who is Neil Ashton’s boss at the Sun.

Edit. Just checked and Mike McGrath is a junior/up and coming reporter according to Sunday Supplement.

 

[Timberwolf]

Would be kind of ironic if after all the speculation, apparent fallings out, repeated links to other clubs and £25 million buyout clause, Toby is the one that signs a new deal and Vertonghen leaves.

 

[Timberwolf]

Would be so great, I'm low key nervous about next years defense with the possibility of having Sanchez and Foyth at CB who knows at RB and maybe Sessegnon at LB?

Regardless of who stays and leaves, surely we'll pick up a new CB next summer. We were strongly linked to Saliba and a few others, so it's obviously a position the club has in mind.

Can't be denied that the prospect of a Sanchez-Foyth pairing gives me the heebie jeebies though.

 

[he is you know!]

Pretty sure that is actually Neil Custis who is Neil Ashton’s boss at the Sun.

Edit. Just checked and Mike McGrath is a junior/up and coming reporter according to Sunday Supplement.

Shaun Custis is the boss, Neil's brother. McGrath has been there for years.

 

[scat1620]

Toby signing a new contract would be out-of-this-world good news for us as a club.

 

[Primativ]

Shaun Custis is the boss, Neil's brother. McGrath has been there for years.

Ah yes Shaun!

 

[dtxspurs]

Regardless of who stays and leaves, surely we'll pick up a new CB next summer. We were strongly linked to Saliba and a few others, so it's obviously a position the club has in mind.

Can't be denied that the prospect of a Sanchez-Foyth pairing gives me the heebie jeebies though.

Agreed we'll bring in replacements. I'm just not sure there are many CBs out there as good as Alderweireld.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

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#thfc are edging closer to reaching an agreement with Toby Alderweireld over a new contract after the centre-back indicated he now wants to remain at the club. [Football Insider]

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

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#thfc are edging closer to reaching an agreement with Toby Alderweireld over a new contract after the centre-back indicated he now wants to remain at the club. [Football Insider]

Confusing to say the least-I thought he’d burnt his bridges and it was a matter of the utmost principle that we’d washed our hands with him.

I’m delighted if it’s true but this news is completely at odds with what we’ve heard for months and months