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Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June

coys200

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If this is true. How quickly could they realistically play 9/10 games without FA cup or Europe. At a real push 5 weeks every Saturday/Wednesday gives you 11 slots so teams could have 1 or 2 midweek rests. I’d say absolute minimum between ending 19/20 and starting 20/21 is 3 weeks. And players need now minimum 3 weeks mini pre season. So pushing things to limit working backwards.

September 4th 20/21 starts

August 12th 19/20 ends

July 7th 19/20 resumes

June 16th players back training

In theory I think this TL is possible. However any outbreak at a club during this 2 month period and it’s basically all screwed.
 

spursfan77

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If this is true. How quickly could they realistically play 9/10 games without FA cup or Europe. At a real push 5 weeks every Saturday/Wednesday gives you 11 slots so teams could have 1 or 2 midweek rests. I’d say absolute minimum between ending 19/20 and starting 20/21 is 3 weeks. And players need now minimum 3 weeks mini pre season. So pushing things to limit working backwards.

September 4th 20/21 starts

August 12th 19/20 ends

July 7th 19/20 resumes

June 16th players back training

In theory I think this TL is possible. However any outbreak at a club during this 2 month period and it’s basically all screwed.

When do you fit transfers in?
 

thekneaf

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Taking fear of transmission out of it and just thinking from a purely practical standpoint, another downside to this is that running one season almost straight into another doesn't allow teams to clear the air and hit reset. I know technically that can be happening now, but I feel we're more in limbo rather than being able to put our mess of a season behind us.
 

rossdapep

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Taking fear of transmission out of it and just thinking from a purely practical standpoint, another downside to this is that running one season almost straight into another doesn't allow teams to clear the air and hit reset. I know technically that can be happening now, but I feel we're more in limbo rather than being able to put our mess of a season behind us.
This is a very good point.

That preseason isn't just used for fitness and so that players are up and running.

A lot of periodisation work needs to be done, over several weeks.

Then you've got management meetings, world tours (money makers) , transfer strategies/ implementations (although that can be done now in some aspects), and so on.

I can't see all that being done well in the space of two weeks.

And how does the transfer window work? A two week rush to buy?
 

Hercules

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Karren Brady stated in her ‘Sun’ column today The impact/concern of injuries. What hospital do you take them to as NHS and private hospitals inundated dealing with Covid-19. There is then impact of self-isolation issues of playing staff etc. 2 metres apart non-contact etc. The actual fitness of players. Testing of every single staff (approx 500) per team. Then their families coming into contact. Then you have hotels they stay at, and their staff. In other words unworkable.

The FA should be changing their script and be more transparent to the fans. Without fans you have no sport. Removing fans you have no real sport in essence. Playing behind closed doors isolates fans, and creates other problems. Isolating players with not much considered regard to their detriment is deplorable. To even consider continuing in this pandemic is unethical to be polite. Humanity is more important. And I say the same to every country and sporting events in particular. The greed of man is more important than the life of man.
 

thecook

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Karren Brady stated in her ‘Sun’ column today The impact/concern of injuries. What hospital do you take them to as NHS and private hospitals inundated dealing with Covid-19. There is then impact of self-isolation issues of playing staff etc. 2 metres apart non-contact etc. The actual fitness of players. Testing of every single staff (approx 500) per team. Then their families coming into contact. Then you have hotels they stay at, and their staff. In other words unworkable.

The FA should be changing their script and be more transparent to the fans. Without fans you have no sport. Removing fans you have no real sport in essence. Playing behind closed doors isolates fans, and creates other problems. Isolating players with not much considered regard to their detriment is deplorable. To even consider continuing in this pandemic is unethical to be polite. Humanity is more important. And I say the same to every country and sporting events in particular. The greed of man is more important than the life of man.

Bang on. People need to look and think about the bigger picture.

Football is not a special case that the laws and requirements to isolate don't apply to. It's a huge logistical undertaking to let the seson continue behind closed doors and extends way beyond just the players and their welfare. Do we really expect people like caterers, hotel staff, cleaners etc to also spend the month in isolation jsut because we want football to continue?

Plus, if we let the football go ahead then why not other sports whose clubs are also losing money and striving not to go out of business? Where do we stop?

The sooner we realise the season is dead the better.
 

roy@SC

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Karren Brady stated in her ‘Sun’ column today The impact/concern of injuries. What hospital do you take them to as NHS and private hospitals inundated dealing with Covid-19. There is then impact of self-isolation issues of playing staff etc. 2 metres apart non-contact etc. The actual fitness of players. Testing of every single staff (approx 500) per team. Then their families coming into contact. Then you have hotels they stay at, and their staff. In other words unworkable.

The FA should be changing their script and be more transparent to the fans. Without fans you have no sport. Removing fans you have no real sport in essence. Playing behind closed doors isolates fans, and creates other problems. Isolating players with not much considered regard to their detriment is deplorable. To even consider continuing in this pandemic is unethical to be polite. Humanity is more important. And I say the same to every country and sporting events in particular. The greed of man is more important than the life of man.
Agree, reading that column makes me believe football has no chance of coming back anytime soon. There are far too many obstacles and issues which football would need to overcome. It needs to realise it is not as important as it thinks it is in the grand scheme of things. Greed & money are the only reasons pushing football trying to start up so quickly. I really don't see any way they cannot escape voiding this season, cancel all European fixtures for next season and when it does start back up, perhaps just limit football to domestic leagues for next season.
 

coys200

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Taking fear of transmission out of it and just thinking from a purely practical standpoint, another downside to this is that running one season almost straight into another doesn't allow teams to clear the air and hit reset. I know technically that can be happening now, but I feel we're more in limbo rather than being able to put our mess of a season behind us.

Yeah I don’t think anyone can reasonably expect much in terms of football until after 20/21 and a vaccine. The main priority is keeping the club in reasonable shape to make sure we are in decent shape when this is all done. Anything we should achieve on the pitch would just be a bonus for me.
 

buckley

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As we are in serious danger health wise I have not been watching sky sports as normal but the few times I have watched sky for a few minutes what has come up almost every time I tune and it is that Abramovich is allowing the clubs hotel for NHS use .
I just wondered if any other clubs are doing their bit as according to sky Chelsea are the only ones .
 

riggi

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As we are in serious danger health wise I have not been watching sky sports as normal but the few times I have watched sky for a few minutes what has come up almost every time I tune and it is that Abramovich is allowing the clubs hotel for NHS use .
I just wondered if any other clubs are doing their bit as according to sky Chelsea are the only ones .

Our ground is being used by the NHS.
 

barry

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As we are in serious danger health wise I have not been watching sky sports as normal but the few times I have watched sky for a few minutes what has come up almost every time I tune and it is that Abramovich is allowing the clubs hotel for NHS use .
I just wondered if any other clubs are doing their bit as according to sky Chelsea are the only ones .

Aren't we making our stadium into a mini hospital, or something. There was an article posted the other day that showed how our stadium would be repurposed.
 

chrissivad

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May 20, 2005
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Aren't we making our stadium into a mini hospital, or something. There was an article posted the other day that showed how our stadium would be repurposed.

Already done, and in use.

Man u changed the lights on their stadium to highlight NHS.
That got more coverage than us from what I saw....
 

coys200

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To seal football in a bubble for 2.5 months without 1 person involved getting infected will be impossible. If it could be done we wouldn’t have the tragedy of key workers dying.
 

michaelden

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Not sure if this has been posted. But a good summation of how far off professional sport is from being played.


But Trump rallies for Liberate <insert democratic state name here> are allowed. I don't believe scientists, I'm going to start a Liberate Surrey movement ;-)
 

brasil_spur

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If this epidemic continues for a long period of time ie things don’t get back to normal till September onwards I think the fairest option has to be to scrap next season and finish this season properly in the new year

I'm actually coming around to this idea somewhat, however there are still several obstacles:

Player contracts how does this work for players out of contract this summer?
Do we have a transfer window?
How do you even sign a player if people are in isolation?
What happens to the massive revenue hole that is created for next season, effectively teams will get 50% of the revenue due to 1 season being played in 2. Whereas even if 25% of the revenue for this season is lost, playing all of next season generates 100% of next seasons revenue. So you have a 37.5% revenue difference. That's a LOT of money for every club.
How do you align this with other countries where seemingly the lockdown will be lifted and "normal" life will return much sooner, such as Germany.

So really whilst for me this is a viable option (whereas fake points calculations aren't viable), i can't see this working out in reality, and voiding this season and putting all efforts into having a full season for 20/21 seems like the best overall approach.
 

Yid-ol

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If this epidemic continues for a long period of time ie things don’t get back to normal till September onwards I think the fairest option has to be to scrap next season and finish this season properly in the new year

Wouldn't that hurt teams more than scrapping this season? They will need to pay back some of the money for TV deals and season tickets for remaining games, but would then lose out on a full season of TV money, season tickets sales and probably sponsorship ect.

That would put a lot of smaller club's out of business IMO.
 
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