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I can confirm this is 100% ITK, no debate
Well I can juggle a bit, so I guess you got this ITK correct
I can confirm this is 100% ITK, no debate
The being away from family thing isn't too much drama, most of the PL players would have been heading off to the Euros anyway so wouldn't have been seeing much of their families regardless.
Injuries shouldn't put any pressure on the NHS at all really, the concern is the virus being caught and spreading during any camp. However, there are ways to limit the chance of that happening greatly. If all staff, officials, broadcasters and players are tested, cleared and isolated in this camp a couple of weeks before coming into contact with each other then that should remove almost all risk. Once this camp starts they shouldn't come into contact with anyone outside it.
If the entire camp is tested, virus free and healthy before it begins, they should be safe providing they are strict about not coming into contact with anyone outside of it. It is doable.
I know it's a simplistic view but if you test everyone, ensure they're all negative and put them together two weeks later after another test the risk would be almost completely removed if there's no outside contact.
This is why I have a problem with how people are responding to this. You're making fair points but they don't strictly apply to the problem (as we were discussing it - see Mr. Pink's lack of content) and so it almost starts to become a form of moralizing. Which really irks me because this is the kind of mechanism that is being used to shift scrutiny and blame away from the government (who have mismanaged this on every level at every point in time) onto some guy sunbathing in the park. (I'm not saying you're doing that, just explaining why I'm sensitive to it)
For example, you ask why should football be given tests when they are needed elsewhere - But it's surely going to be the case that won't happen. No one wants that to happen. If there's not a glut of tests available by the time they're needed, then football won't happen. But by assuming there's this potential conflict, people are demonising football and anyone who would be making such plans - despite that everyone everywhere is making such plans.
It's out there now anyway.
Although.....
Except for putting up NHS staff for free in his hotel. Some twatGary Neville has proven what an actual twat he is throughout this pandemic. All he cares about is football's return. He's completely dissociated himself from what's going on with normal people.
Gary Neville has proven what an actual twat he is throughout this pandemic. All he cares about is football's return. He's completely dissociated himself from what's going on with normal people.
Didn't he recently say the EPL should come back to increase morale? Who am I thinking of?Except for putting up NHS staff for free in his hotel. Some twat
I didn't realise the date had been openly discussed but I gave more info than just the date. Shit times when you give genuine info and some try and give you a hard time, that's why I took it down. It's no wonder some ITK get pissed off on here.
I personally don't think we're ready to play behind closed doors. With where the UK is at with testing, tracing etc... I do not think we're able to handle any of this. In a wonderfully simplistic world view yes, you just put everyone in a neutral location for 6 weeks and play it out but I think the reality of that just does not work.
The thing with the lower league clubs is their cost base will reduce dramatically on 1st July. There are approximately 1000 expiring contracts so that is an average of 20 per club
I had same issue. I know a player, been speaking almost every day since the virus closed football. told the board that players were going to force Levy to change his mind about furloughing staff, and they had refused to talk to him until they did. BSoDL jump on you, saying nonsense, claiming all sorts about having no sources, 2 days later, bang, he is forced to change his stance, and then all you get is well it was your source that was right, not you (how that is any different to other ITK I am still working out).
So I could tell the board about what the club suggested to the players, which players were OK with what board suggested initially, which players are dead against it, where negotiations stand, is there likely to be any agreement down the line, but I won't.
If the info you pass on is not the confirmation bias people want to hear, they jump on you, so advice, keep to yourself in future, and just smile to yourself when you see ridiculous things posted that you know are incorrect.
Whilst at first glance this sounds like a good idea, there are some real huge flaws to this plan.
- You would be moving 500+ people into a relatively confined area, in which they will all come into contact with each other at least once.
- The CVD-19 tests are not 100% accurate (and we all know they are nowhere near 100% accurate). Assuming 99% accuracy, you would on average have potential for at least 5 false results.
- We know that the symptoms don't manifest immediately and that some don't get symptoms at all, so we could not be certain of who has the disease or is carrying it.
- If a single player comes down with COVID-19 then the whole lot is off! Everyone they have played or come into contact with would have to go into self-isolation and the whole tournament would be decimated..........the money at stake for relegation is so immense that if I managed a team in the bottom three then I'd be extremely tempted to introduce the virus and ensure the season was called void.
2. There are various testing strategies for different sitiuations. All of them take into account false positives/negatives.
3. Presumably people would be tested regularly so asymptomatic carriers would be identified. Plus a quarantine period beforehand should make any carriers non-infectious.
4. Not necessarily, you'd be able to track, trace and test very efficiently in that environment. If it had to be called off, so what? I suppose they'd try to decide whether it would be worth potential failure, it might be too expensive/embarassing to have it start then fail. + I'm not sure but If you intentionally infected someone I think you'll get a prison sentence!
Obviously the key factor is how many prostitutes they smuggle in.
This is a becoming a rather esoteric argument. If, as you say, theoretically it can be done, should they not pursue it?
You think it won't work but it's already being done by self-important people and businesses, not to mention how vulnerable groups and wards are being isolated together in a similar fashion. You're very confident it cannot happen, but there's no good a priori argument that would preclude them from trying, at least not yet.
I don't know whether they'll do it or not. But my feeling is that these people are not prepared to give up without a fight.
In some cases the PPG works, for example - Ligue 1. But that's simply because there are 8+ point differences between 4th-5th/ 17th-19th, etc.Paris Saint-Germain crowned Ligue 1 champions after French season called off
Lyon signal intention to appeal and are considering legal actionwww.skysports.com
PSG, who have now won their seventh French title in the last eight years, held a 12-point lead over second-placed Marseille when the season was suspended in March.
The French Professional Football League (LFP) ratified the decision at a meeting on Thursday, two days after French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe suspended sport in the country until at least September.
A points-per-game system, taking into account the performance of clubs in the matches already played, was used to determine the final standings in the Ligue 1 table.
Marseille have qualified directly for the Champions League while third-place Rennes will enter the qualifying rounds, with Toulouse and Amiens relegated.
If they use the same method in England, Spurs and Arsenal will miss out on Europe all together.Paris Saint-Germain crowned Ligue 1 champions after French season called off
Lyon signal intention to appeal and are considering legal actionwww.skysports.com
PSG, who have now won their seventh French title in the last eight years, held a 12-point lead over second-placed Marseille when the season was suspended in March.
The French Professional Football League (LFP) ratified the decision at a meeting on Thursday, two days after French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe suspended sport in the country until at least September.
A points-per-game system, taking into account the performance of clubs in the matches already played, was used to determine the final standings in the Ligue 1 table.
Marseille have qualified directly for the Champions League while third-place Rennes will enter the qualifying rounds, with Toulouse and Amiens relegated.