Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June

[Metalhead]

Don't be so sure.

From the Reuters article:



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At its heart it's not really a scientific issue but a political one. If, due to economic and social pressure, they need to reopen stadia, then scientific advice can be applied to how it can be done within acceptable parameters.

The pressure for a reckless reopening of stadia is already present in the US, with the president, Fox news and these astro-turf demonstrations. It's unlikely that impulse is going to lessen, especially as the death and infection rate fall. I wouldn't bet against such sentiments creeping into to Britain before too long.

It's the risk of a second wave/spike though that will play on the minds of politicians. If that happened and the NHS was overwhelmed it would potentially be carnage.

 

[Spursmad321]

Just reading the Villa players have agreed a 25% pay cut. Can anyone remind me how much of a reduction our players eventually agreed to, as I seem to have missed that story in all the excitement of recent weeks.

Just to let you know it's 25% deferred not a 25% pay cut.

 

[Yiddo100]

I think a lot of tv companies and fans are in for a shock of how shit watching the games on the box will be without us match going fans at games.

Watched the PSG v Dortmund behind close doors game , it was shit but I’ll take anything right now

 

[coys200]

Deferrals are an absolute minefield. Players wanting to leave while still owed money, what happens if you sign a new player is he on 75% as well ? What happens if 2nd peak when you still owe the money.

 

[spursfan77]

So the amount of people needed in the stadiums at games could be 300. Playing them at training grounds is so much easier. How many people does it to put on a youth game I wonder. That’s all you’d need. I’m not in favour of restarting in the next months under any circumstances anyway but found this an informative article.

Here's how many people are needed to play 'behind closed doors'

There is more to a top-level game than two teams, managers and a referee. When leagues resume, hundreds must be present for matches to take place.

www.espn.com

 

[homer hotspur]

Just reading the Villa players have agreed a 25% pay cut. Can anyone remind me how much of a reduction our players eventually agreed to, as I seem to have missed that story in all the excitement of recent weeks.

To answer your question, although probably rhetorical, our players still haven't agreed to help out the club at all

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Alternatively, a lot of fans who think they're special because they go to games are in for a shock at how unimportant they really are.

Seems like an unnecessary jibe at people who make a fair bit of sacrifice to be able to attend regularly...

 

[SpunkyBackpack]

Seems like an unnecessary jibe at people who make a fair bit of sacrifice to be able to attend regularly...

It wasn't but ok. The top level money is in tv, the money is selling shit and sponsors and in everyone except the fans who go to games. To think that the game will fall apart as a spectacle because we cant hear 50,000 people grumble and sigh after every misplaced pass 15 minutes in is silly. TV will find a way around it for presentation and in however many months time we'll get the same threads of people saying "You know it turns out i dont miss the fans/going to games/the atmosphere as much as i thought, i love how i can hear the players and the coaches talk to each other etc etc. It's about the game now".

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

To answer your question, although probably rhetorical, our players still haven't agreed to help out the club at all

That's ok. I imagine they are finding it pretty hard to make ends meet poor things.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

It wasn't but ok. The top level money is in tv, the money is selling shit and sponsors and in everyone except the fans who go to games. To think that the game will fall apart as a spectacle because we cant hear 50,000 people grumble and sigh after every misplaced pass 15 minutes in is silly. TV will find a way around it for presentation and in however many months time we'll get the same threads of people saying "You know it turns out i dont miss the fans/going to games/the atmosphere as much as i thought, i love how i can hear the players and the coaches talk to each other etc etc. It's about the game now".

You’re not stupid, you know full well that your comment will be inferred as having passive aggressive undertones by a lot of regular match goers. I’d wager that the vast majority of fans who go to our 30 odd home matches per season do so because they enjoy it and because it’s a more immersive experience which gives them a fuller picture of the match, not because they ‘feel special’.

 

[Marty]

It wasn't but ok. The top level money is in tv, the money is selling shit and sponsors and in everyone except the fans who go to games. To think that the game will fall apart as a spectacle because we cant hear 50,000 people grumble and sigh after every misplaced pass 15 minutes in is silly. TV will find a way around it for presentation and in however many months time we'll get the same threads of people saying "You know it turns out i dont miss the fans/going to games/the atmosphere as much as i thought, i love how i can hear the players and the coaches talk to each other etc etc. It's about the game now".

Did you watch the Croatia v England international in the Nations League that went behind closed doors? Not only was it absolutely shit to watch because there was no atmosphere whatsoever, it really looked like all the players were playing at half their regular capacity because it felt like a training match. The few games we saw in the CL behind closed doors this season had the same feeling to it, Dortmund especially looked like they didn't even realise there was a game on when PSG beat them.

Player performance is always, and I mean always, boosted by the crowds, and I think a lot of people both in the PL system, TV rights holders and spectators at home are in for a rude awakening when they realise just how much the atmosphere matters.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

You’re not stupid, you know full well that your comment will be inferred as having passive aggressive undertones by a lot of regular match goers. I’d wager that the vast majority of fans who go to our 30 odd home matches per season do so because they enjoy it and because it’s a more immersive experience which gives them a fuller picture of the match, not because they ‘feel special’.

I think the majority who attend games do so for the overall experience, of waking up excited, travelling to stadium, maybe having a few beers with mates before hand and then cheering on your team whether performance is good or bad. it's a full day out for most and provides the opportunity to socialise, and immerse yourself into a activity that you are absolutley passionate about..

 

[topper]

It wasn't but ok. The top level money is in tv, the money is selling shit and sponsors and in everyone except the fans who go to games. To think that the game will fall apart as a spectacle because we cant hear 50,000 people grumble and sigh after every misplaced pass 15 minutes in is silly. TV will find a way around it for presentation and in however many months time we'll get the same threads of people saying "You know it turns out i dont miss the fans/going to games/the atmosphere as much as i thought, i love how i can hear the players and the coaches talk to each other etc etc. It's about the game now".

If you want to watch a game based on tactics and strategy watch Chess - football without the passion and engagement of the spectators is merely a hobby; it’s the fans at the ground that enhances the spectacle for the tv audience

 

[Mr Pink]

It wasn't but ok. The top level money is in tv, the money is selling shit and sponsors and in everyone except the fans who go to games. To think that the game will fall apart as a spectacle because we cant hear 50,000 people grumble and sigh after every misplaced pass 15 minutes in is silly. TV will find a way around it for presentation and in however many months time we'll get the same threads of people saying "You know it turns out i dont miss the fans/going to games/the atmosphere as much as i thought, i love how i can hear the players and the coaches talk to each other etc etc. It's about the game now".

You do realise the players feed off the crowd and atmosphere?

There's no replacing that no matter how innovative the TV companies are.

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

Watched the PSG v Dortmund behind close doors game , it was shit but I’ll take anything right now

i'm 1 hr watching compilations of world cups .. one tournament every week .. know all the results yet still more fun than watching us for last 6 months

 

[Marty]

i'm 1 hr watching compilations of world cups .. one tournament every week .. know all the results yet still more fun than watching us for last 6 months

I had the two hour USA '94 summary that BBC made taped on VHS back in the day. I'd love to dig that out again, I must've watched it 100 times when I was a kid.

 

[Colonel Dax]

I had the two hour USA '94 summary that BBC made taped on VHS back in the day. I'd love to dig that out again, I must've watched it 100 times when I was a kid.

Loved USA 94. I enjoyed Italia 90, but was still a bit too young at the time to fully appreciate it. The 94 World Cup was the first proper tournament I got into - immersed myself into in fact. Bought loads of magazines and books beforehand, studied the squads and players, put up the wall charts etc. Stayed up late to watch the matches. The dazzling colours, the atmosphere, the BBC opening titles with the West Side Story theme, Diana Ross fumbling the penalty kick at the opening ceremony lol. Loved it all.

Romania v Argentina - what a classic. And after the WC we bought Popescu, Dumitrescu and Klinsmann. I was convinced we were going to win the league that season. ?

 

[Marty]

Loved USA 94. I enjoyed Italia 90, but was still a bit too young at the time to fully appreciate it. The 94 World Cup was the first proper tournament I got into - immersed myself into in fact. Bought loads of magazines and books beforehand, studied the squads and players, put up the wall charts etc. Stayed up late to watch the matches. The dazzling colours, the atmosphere, the BBC opening titles with the West Side Story theme, Diana Ross fumbling the penalty kick at the opening ceremony lol. Loved it all.

Romania v Argentina - what a classic. And after the WC we bought Popescu, Dumitrescu and Klinsmann. I was convinced we were going to win the league that season. ?

The massive baggy goal nets made even a simple tap-in look 10 times better too. The way the thunderbastards rippled through the net was just beautiful.

 

[spursfan77]

You’re not stupid, you know full well that your comment will be inferred as having passive aggressive undertones by a lot of regular match goers. I’d wager that the vast majority of fans who go to our 30 odd home matches per season do so because they enjoy it and because it’s a more immersive experience which gives them a fuller picture of the match, not because they ‘feel special’.

Yep but VAR has ruined even that!

Going to football now is pretty shit, to tell you the truth, because of it. Again, the match going fans are the last people thought of in regard to that.

The authorities might just find that this virus could have quite an effect on football in more ways than them or us currently realise. I bet there are a lot of fans turned off from the sport. I wouldn’t be surprised to see attendances fall off. And if they start showing matches on tv without full grounds the viewing figures will drop off quite quickly. It’s just not the same.

 

[ajspurs]

I think a lot of tv companies and fans are in for a shock of how shit watching the games on the box will be without us match going fans at games.

For me it won't be that football is back, it will be that there is just some form of live entertainment. Can't stand games without fans, they feel truly terrible but it may just be a case of being better than nothing.