Match Ratings Ratings vs Watford

[slartibartfast]

Dier and Dembele were poor. So sloppy in dangerous areas. Dembele, jeez not sure what he was on.
Lloris was fantastic and saved our butts. Good to see him having a good game. Been a while.
Thought Son was ok as were Alli Erikson and Kane.
Davis hardly kicked ball 1st half but didnt do anything poor.
Trippier was a handful attacking but got mugged a few times defending. Took bit of a battering actually which probably didnt help.
Verts and Sanchez were solid and both played well.
I'll go Lloris for my Man of Match please Bob.
Edit. Thought Lamela looked very good when he came on. Wanyama was ok too.

 

[Mr Pink]

Getting spanked by West Ham at the lane a few seasons ago wasn't pretty.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Spurs 0 Fulham 3 - August 30th 2003.

Thrashed by a team with Barry Hayles up front.

What's my prize!?

Doesn’t count, at least one set of fans would have enjoyed the game.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Getting spanked by West Ham at the lane a few seasons ago wasn't pretty.

More exciting for the neutral than tonight though.

 

[mpickard2087]

Doesn’t count, at least one set of fans would have enjoyed the game.

You're a very hard to please little Bear.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

You're a very hard to please little Bear.

I feel like I was pretty clear with the criteria...

 

[isaac94]

@issac94 do tell me why you rated wtf lol?
Love to get your expert insights?

Trips and Dembele get the same score, really??
I love Moose, but he was awful today and Trips was one of our better performers, cant really justify that rating

 

[Bus-Conductor]

That was the worst performance Ive seen from us all season.

Edit

Since Southampton away.

I can live with a grinder, when we patiently wear down a deep bus, and we go through the right motions, don't allow them a sniff, but this wasn't that. It was listless, devoid of tempo with or without the ball, the forwards were all fucking bumbling around like silly ****s and Dembele should have retired at the end of February, then all his fan boys could pretend he was the midfield Messi forever, instead we get another 3 months like the first 6 of the season.

Dier was doing his best to bring Watford into the game, if only he could be as incisive for us as he was for Watford.

We're a motor with go faster stripes and a fucked engine. We've desperately got to bring in a midfielder or two next season. Bring Wanyama back in to do the busy ****ing, and have one or two proper footballing CM's who can bring a bit of fucking vim to our play in there with him. Our central midfield is a creative wasteland that moves at the speed of a fucking oil tanker.

Dier and Dembele had no control over that game, couldn't set any tempo, play passes between lines, and allowed it to get open, with Watford players walking past them all night.

Another area where Poch is really poor is the constant repetitive selection and format. Son has been abysmal for a month, but rather than freshen it up and bring in someone like Lamela - who also gives us some press work rate as well - or Moura (why fucking bother sign him if you're not going to give him a game like this) he picks Son again. We saw exactly this approach with Alli for the first three months. We know these players are capable of great things, but when they aren't bringing them, and aren't exactly grafting like ****s either, then fucking rotate them. The replacement might not be as talented, but you'll keep the squad more earnest, let them know they have to bring a minimum level, and we won't get to the business end of the season looking mentally spent as well.

This game was fucking atrocious, and it was just poor finishing and goalkeeping from them that decided it. We were lethargic in midfield, wasteful and careless up front, lazy movement with the ball, barely pressed, allowing the game to get open. Like Redknapp open.

Individual

Lloris - I think they were all saves he should be making but at least there were no fuck ups tonight.

Trippier - Had a great game with the ball, but was weak defensively a couple of times in later stages.

Sanchez - Good game under very difficult circumstances, very little protection from the CM's.

Vertonghen - Good game.

Davies - Meh.

Dier - Like Phil Jones grandad.

Dembele - Like Lional Messi's granny.

Son - If he could control a ball or press properly he'd be really good.

Eriksen - I feel sorry for him.

Alli - a couple of real quality moments, but some fucking about too.

Kane - Like Pavlyuchenko's grandad.

 

[UncleBuck]

Is there any way we can see who voted for who? Obviously a p!ss take but I need to give someone a funny for sissoko

 

[olliec]

That was the worst performance Ive seen from us all season. I can live with a grinder, when we patiently wear down a deep bus, and we go through the right motions, don't allow them a sniff, but this wasn't that. It was listless, devoid of tempo with or without the ball, the forwards were all fucking bumbling around like silly ****s and Dembele should have retired at the end of February, then all his fan boys could pretend he was the midfield Messi forever, instead we get another 3 months like the first 6 of the season.

Dier was doing his best to bring Watford into the game, if only he could be as incisive for us as he was for Watford.

We're a motor with go faster stripes and a fucked motor. We've desperately got to bring in a midfielder or two next season. Bring Wanyama back in to do the busy ****ing, and have one or two proper footballing CM's who can bring a bit of fucking vim to our play in there with him. Our central midfield is a creative wasteland that moves at the speed of a fucking oil tanker.

Dier and Dembele had no control over that game, couldn't set any tempo, play passes between lines, and allowed it to get open, with Watford players walking past them all night.

Another are where Poch is really poor is the constant repetitive selection and format . Son has been abysmal for a month, but rather than freshen it up and bring in someone like Lamela - who also gives us some press work rate as well - or Moura (why fucking bother sign him if you're not going to give him a game like this) he picks Son again. We saw exactly this approach with Alli for the first three months. We know these players are capable of great things, but when they aren't bringing them, and aren't exactly grafting like ****s either, then fucking rotate them. The replacement might not be as talented, but you'll keep the squad more earnest, let them know they have to bring a minimum level, and we won't get to the business end of the season looking mentally spent as well.

This game was fucking atrocious, and it was just poor finishing and keeping from them that decided it. We were lethargic in midfield, wasteful and careless up front, lazy movement with the ball, barely pressed, allowing the game to get open. Like Redknapp open.

Individual

Lloris - I think they were all saves he should be making but at least there were no fuck ups tonight.

Trippier - Had a great game with the ball, but was weak defensively a couple of times in later stages.

Sanchez - Good game under very difficult circumstances, very little protection from the CM's.

Davies - Meh.

Dier - pffft..

Dembele - Like Lional Messi's granny.

Son - If he could control a ball he'd be really good.

Eriksen - I feel sorry for him.

Alli - a couple of real quality moments, but some fucking about too.

Kane - Like Pavlyuchenko's grandad.

A bit harsh, but true to the majority of your comments. We certainly need to shake things up in the summer. We need someone to replace Dembele as hes 30 now, and it looks like his knees are giving up on him. Doesn't look fit at the moment, and was extremely sloppy tonight and could of given away at least 2 goals. The problem is when Dembele or Eriksen doesn't tick the rest of the team doesn't tick. Would love to see Winks back!

But on a brighter note, I think Lamela looked great when he came on. Some serious trickery and so good on the ball. Think he just needs a bit of a pre-season, and look forward to him getting more game time next season.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Lethargic performance between one side stumbling towards the finish line with not much gas left in the tank and another side with nothing to play for, safe from relegation and knowing that they’ll have a new manager next season. We did actually construct a couple of half decent moves, particularly when Eriksen and Trippier combined down the right, but our sloppiness was awful at times and our lack of real thought, fight or congestion quite concerning. If we do this v WBA on Saturday we will lose.

Worst performance of all though came from the fans. Half empty stadium for a crucial fixture, no atmosphere, constant getting on the player’s backs, these fans don’t deserve the generally good standard we’ve been served up the last few seasons, they don’t deserve Eriksen, Kane, Dele and Vertonghen, they certainly don’t deserve Pochettino. Who needs a mythical media agenda against us when our fan base is infected so deeply with a bunch of fickle bedwetters. These people are making the best Spurs era in my lifetime also the least enjoyable. At least when we were shit we got behind the team and willed them on.

Lloris, man of the match, mostly routine stuff but decision making off his line was too notch and without him we don’t win the game.

Trippier, good involvement with both goals, good assist, good link up with Eriksen.

Sanchez was fine, couple of errors but generally use his pace well and kept his line.

Vertonghen did well, defended solidly, deserved a goal and assist.

Davies took up some good positions and linked well a few tones but always faltered at the critical moment.

Dier was dreadful, simply dreadful. Some of the awful passes under literally no pressure was inexcusable.

Dembele has all the best intentions but his legs and body just wouldn’t do what his brain commanded. Too many bad passes, dispossessed too often.

Eriksen linked well with Trippier, kept our attack ticking over and was very composed to set up Dele.

Dele made his finish look easy, it was composure in an erratic situation. He also drove forward well and one the whole used the ball neatly if perhaps uninspiringly. Can’t ignore his output.

Son was a non event, apart from one good cross as Harry slipped I can’t remember any involvement at all.

Kane showed decent effort and endeavour, and he tried to hold the ball up, but his touch and radar were both off on the whole. Did well to recompose himself for the goal though, his offside goal was a lovely finish too and he played the pass of the match for Sissoko to waste.

None of the subs were brilliant but all of them did okay, two were definitely better than the men they replaced. Wanyama might have been booked with his first involvement but he showed good strength on the ball and passed well. Sissoko might have missed a gift but he showed much more drive and penetration than Son ever did. Lamela was very Lamela, when starved of space and time he showed great skill and ingenuity, when afforded both he was indecisive and clumsy.

 

[olliec]

Is there any way we can see who voted for who? Obviously a p!ss take but I need to give someone a funny for sissoko

I did, but only because he really did try which is really depressing!

 

[lukespurs7]

Trips and Dembele get the same score, really??
I love Moose, but he was awful today and Trips was one of our better performers, cant really justify that rating

Surely that’s a disagree then not a wtf? And pretty sure I didn’t rate them the same. Anyways...

 

[lukespurs7]

Also side note Richarlison and Dacoure both looked ok but don’t think either are at the level we’d need them to be.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

That was the worst performance Ive seen from us all season. I can live with a grinder, when we patiently wear down a deep bus, and we go through the right motions, don't allow them a sniff, but this wasn't that. It was listless, devoid of tempo with or without the ball, the forwards were all fucking bumbling around like silly ****s and Dembele should have retired at the end of February, then all his fan boys could pretend he was the midfield Messi forever, instead we get another 3 months like the first 6 of the season.

Dier was doing his best to bring Watford into the game, if only he could be as incisive for us as he was for Watford.

We're a motor with go faster stripes and a fucked motor. We've desperately got to bring in a midfielder or two next season. Bring Wanyama back in to do the busy ****ing, and have one or two proper footballing CM's who can bring a bit of fucking vim to our play in there with him. Our central midfield is a creative wasteland that moves at the speed of a fucking oil tanker.

Dier and Dembele had no control over that game, couldn't set any tempo, play passes between lines, and allowed it to get open, with Watford players walking past them all night.

Another are where Poch is really poor is the constant repetitive selection and format . Son has been abysmal for a month, but rather than freshen it up and bring in someone like Lamela - who also gives us some press work rate as well - or Moura (why fucking bother sign him if you're not going to give him a game like this) he picks Son again. We saw exactly this approach with Alli for the first three months. We know these players are capable of great things, but when they aren't bringing them, and aren't exactly grafting like ****s either, then fucking rotate them. The replacement might not be as talented, but you'll keep the squad more earnest, let them know they have to bring a minimum level, and we won't get to the business end of the season looking mentally spent as well.

This game was fucking atrocious, and it was just poor finishing and keeping from them that decided it. We were lethargic in midfield, wasteful and careless up front, lazy movement with the ball, barely pressed, allowing the game to get open. Like Redknapp open.

Individual

Lloris - I think they were all saves he should be making but at least there were no fuck ups tonight.

Trippier - Had a great game with the ball, but was weak defensively a couple of times in later stages.

Sanchez - Good game under very difficult circumstances, very little protection from the CM's.

Davies - Meh.

Dier - Like Phil Jones grandad.

Dembele - Like Lional Messi's granny.

Son - If he could control a ball he'd be really good.

Eriksen - I feel sorry for him.

Alli - a couple of real quality moments, but some fucking about too.

Kane - Like Pavlyuchenko's grandad.

You forget Vertonghen...

Agree on most things. Think Kane showed more endeavour than he has done lately, he’s just playing poorly. I think Lloris off his line was great twice, that was the decisive Lloris of old. Fully agreed on both CMs. That Wanyama isn’t playing/ looks likely to be off is criminal.

Maybe mid season isn’t the time to do it, but in pre season I really want Pochettino to give 433 a go. Diers limitations are far less exposed as a pure anchor (though I’d still prefer the proactivity of Wanyama) and I think playing the spare man in a midfield 3, ala Lampard or Pogba, would get so much more from Dele. Eriksen might be our best AM, but I also reckon he’d be our best CM too if we went this way and it might limit his obvious stats (goals assists etc) but he could really do what we’ve watched a similar player in De Bruyne do this season.

Alas, as I’ve said before, much as I love Pochettino he’s unlikely to stop being ‘safety first’.

 

[Bulletspur]

I'd like that, no, love that. However, I'd like Liverpool to beat Chelsea. I'd rather secure 4th than have bragging rights.
Both would be faptastic.

We dont need a Liverpool or a Chelsea result to determine our final position. Even if Liverpool win their remaining games, we will still finish ahead of them if we win ours. Its in our hands

 

[dynamoSpurs]

Dier is so below the grade we need to level up. Really, without being too harsh, he needs to get gone. Such a sloppy footballer.

I can't remember the last time he had a solid game for us.

Not saying Wanyama is much better but this "utility" crap isn't cutting it anymore.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Hugo, followed by Jan. The rest is best and easily forgotten

 

[fortworthspur]

it wasnt that bad, except for the last 20 minutes of the first half. I think the players had a couple of extra gears in them if we needed them, which we didnt.

Lloris MOTM

Son - what does Moura have to do to get a game? Son has been off the boil for a month or so.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

That was the worst game of football I have watched in 15 years.

16.