Skillfill Players Threatened With a Kicking

[michaelden]

After watching ManUtd vs Arsenal in the FA cup and seeing Nani up to his tricks, then reading the article below I've decided that the reason England's players are as technically gifted as other country's is the bullies kick it out of them when they are young.

With the refs not protecting the skilled players (by letting the retaliation roll) the kids learn young that to be skillfill only incourages a kicking. Is it no wonder that Pato, Ronaldinho et al don't pick the UK as their first port of call.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3161013,00.html

Gilberto issues Nani warning

Gunners star rallies team-mates

Arsenal star Gilberto Silva has warned Manchester United winger Nani he could get a kicking if he does cut out his showboating.

Nani's showboating antics during United's 4-0 win over Arsenal in their FA Cup clash on Saturday infuriated the Arsenal squad who felt the Portuguese international was showing them a lack of respect.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsenal chief Arsene Wenger both condemened Nani for overstepping the mark.

The summer signing from Sporting Lisbon came in for some rough treatment following his showboating and Gilberto has warned he could come in for the same if he continues his antics.

Warning
"It was important for us we didn't lose control and lose another man," said Gilberto.

"I just spoke to him and told him it wasn't necessary for him to do that. I told him he could get a bad kick doing that.

"In these type of situations I do my best to calm down my team-mates because we need all of them on the pitch to fight for the team."

Rallying call
Meanwhile, Gilberto is confident Arsenal can bounce back from their humiliating defeat to Arsenal and go on to achieve success in the Premier League and UEFA Champions League.

"Of course we can bounce back from this," insisted Gilberto. "If you look at United, they had a bad result against Manchester City, a big disappointment to them, and they came back very strong in this game against us.

"It's the same for us. We will come back even stronger, starting in the Champions League against Milan on Wednesday, because we don't want to let the opportunities pass us by this season. We must bounce back if we want to achieve something. This group is ambitious to win trophies this season.

"The FA Cup is very important and we're disappointed to be knocked out, but we need to look forward to the game against Milan.

"It is also important that we focus on our position in the league, where we are five points clear, a situation very much in our favour. We must learn from our mistakes and not let a performance like this happen again."

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

No it happens in Brazil just as much as anywhere. I remember there was absolute uproar over there when the whole seal dribble kicked off.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7009897.stm

This is what Tim Vickery had to write about the whole thing back in September. Players were kicking the hell out of Kerlon to stop him, it's no different over there where the football is supposed to be 'beautiful'.

To be honest strong challenges are part of the game just as much as showboating and players like Nani are looking for the challenge anyway.

I don't think it will stop the creativity, but players get better at it and learn when the showboating is too much and when it should have a final product. It didn't take Ronaldo too long to realise that when he was taking a kicking he'd be better off getting a little more direct and getting in a shot rather than the extra 24 step-overs. Worked out for the good of his game.

 

[gooch]

its plain wrong condemning him for showboating. wenger is a prick, i'm surprised he even saw it.

if a player wants to show his skill then let him. its up to other opposing players not to let him have the ball so easy. and to come out and say he'll get a kicking for doing it is, as if that justifies it, is a joke. i bet fergie loves it really, especially against the scum

 

[TheChosenOne]

I assume it is OK to kick skilful players now then, no more step-overs 'cos it infuriates defenders, no more shimmies taking peno's, no more seeing the ball out of touch.

Complete bollox, wouldn't expect anything less from "Les Grenouilles" masters of cheating, diving, simulation and sportsmanship.

I'd like to see the FA/FL retrospectively analysing games like MU & Arse on saturday especially the bits where Gallas was kicking Nani, Adeboywonder being shot by a sniper in the crowd and taking action as necessary.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

its plain wrong condemning him for showboating. wenger is a prick, i'm surprised he even saw it.

if a player wants to show his skill then let him. its up to other opposing players not to let him have the ball so easy. and to come out and say he'll get a kicking for doing it is, as if that justifies it, is a joke. i bet fergie loves it really, especially against the scum

Yeh to come and say you'll give him a kicking is wrong. But to actually do it on the pitch is ok by me. You can't just give a player time on the ball to do whatever he likes. Diving is far more of an issue for me than taking a player out. It is part of the game, you stop the player advancing, if you can't get the ball then you sure as hell have to stop the player, be it putting yourself in the way or giving him a nudge or tripping him. Sure you sacrifice a free kick but that is better than conceding a goal.

 

[yanno]

Gilberto Silva's legs have gone. So, there's no chance of him even catching a player like Nani, let alone giving him a kicking. All he's got left is a foul mouth.

That said, his fellow Woolwich w*nkers like Gallas have already started kicking the opposition. The referee didn't see Gallas' off the ball hack on Nani, so hopefully the FA can get involved and give Gallas a retrospective 3-match ban. Then he can join Eboue in the stands watching the goons lose their EPL lead....

 

[donny1013]

Nani can do what he wants, if he has the ability and Man Yoo are 4-0 up then why not. And the cheating **** Eboue's kung fu kick on Evra went almost unmentioned even though he got a straight red, everyone was talking about Nani's showboating!?!?

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

You all talk like it's a new thing. But players have been kicking quicker, more skillful players since football began. It's just a non-issue. Gilberto being a dirty Goon and coming out and saying he will give him a kicking is a different thing. Adebayor diving is far worse, that is free kicks being given for things that didn't happen, that is cheating.

 

[Peters]

its plain wrong condemning him for showboating. wenger is a prick, i'm surprised he even saw it.

if a player wants to show his skill then let him. its up to other opposing players not to let him have the ball so easy. and to come out and say he'll get a kicking for doing it is, as if that justifies it, is a joke. i bet fergie loves it really, especially against the scum

I totally agree with all of this.

The Nani cameo (below) was very entertaining for the worldwide audience watching live, and can only enhance the reputation of the FA Cup competition.
"Blind Pew" Wenger always looks for an excuse to deflect criticism for an all too rare poor performance and the fact he admits to seeing the showboating is hilarious.
IMO these comments by Wenger and Gilberto are an embarassment and they should be taken to task for bringing the game into disrepute.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=109TgemPssc

 

[joey.leone]

how can nani be condemned for doing some showboating??
espcially seeing as man u were 4-0 up ffs.

 

[Chuba]

Ar5ena1 are just bad losers thats all, if u watch the Nani showboating he actually gets kicked from the start to the finish as Hoyte threatens to rip into him almost every other stride, see the rocket tackle at the end which could easily have broken something if contact had been made and watch Hoyte again give him a kick even after the ball is off the pitch.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Of course he can do what he likes, great skill. Also there is nothing stopping the opposition from flying in, was actually a really good challenge at the end of that little clip. Clearly the ref should have blown the whistle ages before it even got to that stage.

Still the better football would have been a little pass to Scholes, but if Nani would rather showboat than play decent football it is fine. Would rather some end product.

 

[CosmicHotspur]

I don't know who they voted Man of the Match, but Nani was it for me.

I love watching players with good skills.

I suppose they would have tried (and dismally failed!) to hack down or shove Stanley Matthews when he used to dribble down the wing with the ball looking like it was glued to his boot.

Bring on the showmen I say - we sometimes forget that football should be entertaining!

 

[Kendall]

Of course he can do what he likes, great skill. Also there is nothing stopping the opposition from flying in, was actually a really good challenge at the end of that little clip. Clearly the ref should have blown the whistle ages before it even got to that stage.

Still the better football would have been a little pass to Scholes, but if Nani would rather showboat than play decent football it is fine. Would rather some end product.

it was 4-0 by that time & they were just casually stroking it about.

Arsenal never show their opposition respect, so their hypocrisy is just laughable, I'm glad they got made to look like mugs

 

[AW?]

I don't know who they voted Man of the Match, but Nani was it for me.

I love watching players with good skills.

I suppose they would have tried (and dismally failed!) to hack down or shove Stanley Matthews when he used to dribble down the wing with the ball looking like it was glued to his boot.

Bring on the showmen I say - we sometimes forget that football should be entertaining!

Do we? Well i bloody don't. I'm a Yid for fucks sake.

 

[CosmicHotspur]

Do we? Well i bloody don't. I'm a Yid for fucks sake.

Exactly! We appreciate - and expect - the best and most entertaining, exciting football. I've been lucky enough to have seen plenty of that over the years from Spurs and wouldn't want it any other way.

 

[AW?]

Good good, i'm glad we sorted that one out :wink:

 

[deathtoarsenal]

Worst losers in sport.

Nothing wrong with showboating against those ****s.

 

[idlepete]

Nothing wrong with showboating, anytime. It's not against the rules. Unlike booting someone up in the air for showboating, which is against the rules.

In conclusion, all Gooners should shut up, fuck off, and die.