Sky Sports Carragher v Neville: In order outve Gerrard,Lampard, Scholes

[DanNolan]

Just been watching MNF and the question at the end was very interested and sparked some big arguement between G Nev and Carragher.
For those who didnt see it: Put these 3 in order of the best to worse : Gerrard Scholes and Lampard.

I think Scholes is as good of a player as i have seen in the PL as a midfielder so I go him shading over Gerrard. Lampard third for me. All wonderful players but i feel that like G Nev said, Scholes ran football matches and that in turn won United titles. He was great at doing Lampards role early in his career and scoring goals, but excelled even further when moved deeper.

Opinions?

 

[Kingstheman]

Scholes never should have been moved to make way for the calamity that was Gerapard.

Scholes then Gerard.


Lampard is a well trained person pretending to be a footballer.

 

[kr1978]

Scholes, but only just because of the number of trophies he won and the contribution he made n utd winning them. I would then have lampard just edging gerrard (mainly because of his consistency over the years) but tbh that could go either way.

 

[knilly]

For me virtually impossible to separate them. Scholes was one of the best modern midfielders and like others said ran games on his own, the others two won games on their own, over 200 goals for Chelsea for Lampard, and we all seen how Gerrard literally dragged Liverpool to top 4 finishes and long cup runs

 

[Legend10]

Scholes, but only just because of the number of trophies he won and the contribution he made n utd winning them. I would then have lampard just edging gerrard (mainly because of his consistency over the years) but tbh that could go either way.

Lampard better than Gerrard, please tell me you're joking?

 

[dagraham]

Scholes was rated by Zidane as one of the best players he ever played against. That tells you all you need to know.

Also, Gerrard ahead of Lampard for me all day. Lampards goal scoring record is truely impressive but Gerrard has more to his game, could play anywhere in the midfield and is just a superior all round footballer imo.

In fact at his best there was no one in the PL who I coveted for Spurs more than Gerrard, even though Scholes was a more accomplished player.

 

[beats1]

Lampard is intelligent off the ball and a good finisher

Gerrard has very good technique and direct on the ball

Scholes can do all that other than being direct on the ball but unlike the others he is intelligent on the ball, when the team is in possession and sees the bigger picture. It speaks volumes when a guy near his 40's comes out of retirement to help a Man Utd secure another title.

 

[kr1978]

Lampard better than Gerrard, please tell me you're joking?

Lampards goalscoring consistency edged it for me, double figures for 10 seasons in a row now from midfield is seriously impressive, but as I said its so close for me that if I was asked on a different day could quite easily put them the other way round! Gerrard has single handedly dragged Liverpool through so many games it is unreal.

Anyway you look at it they are 3 top quality players

 

[Mouse!]

I don't like comparing different types of player.

Lampard is/was a goalscoring midfielder.
Gerrard is/was a box-to-box midfielder.
Scholes was a deep-lying playmaker.

I'd say all three are among the best in their respective roles as modern football has seen, and England should have been able to get them all in the same team and win something!

 

[beats1]

Lampards goalscoring consistency edged it for me, double figures for 10 seasons in a row now from midfield is seriously impressive, but as I said its so close for me that if I was asked on a different day could quite easily put them the other way round! Gerrard has single handedly dragged Liverpool through so many games it is unreal.

Anyway you look at it they are 3 top quality players

Lampard has always been in a title winning team whereas Gerrard but then again I dont think Gerrard is as good as people make it

If Gerrard had some footballing intelligence, he would be one of the best and imo England would in a much better place

 

[beats1]

I don't like comparing different types of player.

Lampard is/was a goalscoring midfielder.
Gerrard is/was a box-to-box midfielder.
Scholes was a deep-lying playmaker.

I'd say all three are among the best in their respective roles as modern football has seen, and England should have been able to get them all in the same team and win something!

I would say Lampard and Gerrard play a similar role but have two very different styles

Gerrard more direct on the ball and both love their hollywood passes.

 

[Shadydan]

In this order

Scholes
Lampard
Gerrard

Scholes is a totally different player to Lampard and Gerrard, Scholes was a regista/deep lying playmaker who really only came into his own when Utd changed up their tactics. Even before them playing in a 442 alongside Keane he was still a master of controlling midfield and popping up with goals for club and country. He was the finest regista England have ever produced and was criminally misused/underused by England managers. At a time when we were crying out for a player to control the tempo to our play we as a nation and the media has a constant fixation on the Gerrard/Lampard axis which on paper looked good but didn't work out as they had no one to pass to them.

In 2010 there was campaign to get Scholes out of retirement and get him back in the England team, it came as no surprise that people started to understand his role after Barca and Spain had shown the way in which you needed a player who controlled possession and controlled the game but by then the damage had been done and it was too late. Scholes was always the guy that England had missed throughout these years in order to get the best out of the rest of the team.

I put Lampard in 2nd because what you get with him is an overlooked subtlety in his play, an all-rounder with fantastic distribution/shooting/passing/positional awareness/timing of runs...Lampard had worked on his game and pretty much perfected the art of a goal scoring midfielder, Lampard is a very intelligent player IMO he always used the ball very well and still does to this day


Gerrard did it in bigger matches and Gerrard was probably the more explosive footballer and his goals more memorable plus I would rate him above anyone for being that go to guy/inspirational leader and captain but I would put Gerrard behind Lampard simply for the fact that he had and still has an annoying tendency to overplay and go for the Hollywood pass which is criminal when you're a midfield player playing at the top level.

 

[Lilbaz]

3 great players.

The question should be, who will replace them?

 

[ItsBoris]

Scholes was the most talented player produced in England since Gazza. As good as Gerrard and Lampard were, Scholes was on an entirely different level to either imo.

 

[dontcallme]

Scholes, Lampard then Gerrard for me.

Scholes is techincally the best player I've seen for England. Gazza was the genius and Scholes the controlled master. His ability to pick out a pass, technique on shots and ability to control the temp of the game was out of this world.

Lampard was statistically the best player in the Prem in the 1st decade of the 21st century. His goalscoring record is excellent. Mourinho was given an open chequebook the first time around to bring Chelsea their first title. He didn't even try to replace Lampard.

Lampard was also England's player of the year 2 seasons in a row. Chelsea have bought a lot of top quality attacking mids and none of them could get Frank's place under any of the managers.

Gerrard is captain fantastic and a perfect fit for Liverpool. His drive and determination are what makes him a much loved player in England. We regularly favour workrate over ability. I remember Houllier saying that he needed to teach Gerrard that a 10 yard pass can be more effective than a 40 yard one and sadly he still hasn't learnt this.

It's still normal to see Gerrard try a ridiculous 40 yarder, giving posession away cheaply, instead of simply holding onto the ball. He's an excellent player but he hasn't done it for England and the technique and intelligence of Scholes and Lampard make them better players imo.

 

[Shadydan]

3 great players.

The question should be, who will replace them?

We don't really get the one club player anymore which is sad although rather begrudibgly Wheelchair could possibly be the natural successor to Scholes, don't think he'll reach the same heights mind you and I like the look of Ross Barkley at Everton but its doubtful he'll stay there for the whole of his career.

 

[nidge]

Scholes tops the list for me.

The other two you can't really seperate in my opinion.

Oh and in case anyone is wondering why Scholes.

 

[max cady]

Scholes for me only second to Bobby Charlton and the best English midfielder. While Lumplard and the scouse git are good they are nowhere near as good as Scholes.

 

[Bofbro]

Just a pity we could not get them to play together in a midfield three for England.
Putting any of these three on the left was a pure joke.

 

[Shanks]

Scholes for me too.

Followed by Gerrard and then Lampard.