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Match Prediction

  • Spurs to win North London Derby without conceding

    Votes: 15 6.2%
  • Spurs to win North London Derby but concedes

    Votes: 16 6.6%
  • Spurs to Lose the North London Derby from a winning position

    Votes: 8 3.3%
  • Spurs to lose North London Derby despite scoring

    Votes: 31 12.8%
  • Spurs to Lose the North London Derby without scoring

    Votes: 136 56.2%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 28 11.6%
  • Goal-less Draw

    Votes: 8 3.3%

  • Total voters
    242
  • Poll closed .

Wizzy77

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Ladies and Gentlemen, may i present to you today referee....Mr Michael Oliver... the VAR referee for our past two VAR fiasco...
 

shelfboy68

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Jun 14, 2008
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Won't be watching today will be in the garden in my hot tub with the phone on silent.
First time ever that I have missed a NLD, but can't be fucked with it, will check my phone tonight expecting the usual abuse from gooners and spammers joy.
:) :X3:?
 

Tonio

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May 15, 2008
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First one I haven’t watched since... well fuck knows. I’ve got some lamb shish marinating nicely to cook at 16:30 tomorrow.

Hope you all enjoy it.
Ooh are you delivering then?
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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Don't care much about whether Tottenham finish above or below Arsenal, because they are not important enough that their fortune or lack thereof might sweeten this horrendous season. However, what I do care about, is the isolated match day and that we beat them in a lovely (or lowly?) way.
 

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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I'm not sure we're suffering from lack of space. None of our last three opponents have packed the area with an organised block of 8-9 players and refused to come out.

We're suffering from a lack of confidence, but more importantly from a lack of creativity and ruthlessness. We have five or six high-quality attacking players, but no one to do the unexpected, no one with vision to orchestrate our attacks. No one shoots! It's rare that anyone is delivered the ball in a position to shoot.

We no longer have Christian Eriksen. People often underestimated his importance when he was at his best. But we've not clicked in any consistent way since he lost focus and then, a year later, departed. When he was integrated in our team, he was the linchpin of everything we did. When he played well, Dele and Kane and Son all looked world-beaters and we played the style of football that is popularly associated with Pochettino's period in charge.

We have a couple of players who could provide some of what Eriksen did, but they are nominally central midfielders, not no. 10s: Lo Celso and Ndombele. We are seeing Mourinho start to recognise the problem and experiment with either of those behind Kane, instead of Lamela or Bergwijn. But neither of them has been remotely as effective in the final third as Eriksen.

I don't think it matters how much space we have. In the absence of ideas, movement, creativity and fluidity, we'll keep prowling around the edge of the penalty area, looking for shooting opportunities that don't appear, until we lose the ball again, without having registered a shot.

It is past ridiculous that we have Kane, Son, Bergwijn, Lamela, Dele and Lucas in our squad and they are collectively producing 9-10 shots per game, mainly low-percentage shots from range. We used to take 20+ shots a game. Now it's 10 if we're at our best. They aren't getting the ball and their collective and individual movement is pedestrian, in part because they have no confidence that anyone will get the ball to them.

Agree we're too static and lack movement. Had we not got lucky with the opener against West Ham I'm pretty sure that would of ended up 0-0.

Nothing wrong with our confidence when we had the space when West Ham were pushing for the equaliser though, and Kane dispatched with aplomb.
 
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13VanDerBale13

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Jul 12, 2011
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Dont tell us what you are expecting, tell us what you are hoping!

Im hoping we play good football and create chances, but we all know that aint going to happen, im hoping we somehow sneak our away to a win, but again i highly doubt it the way we play
 

wishkah

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Jan 27, 2011
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Will be driving from Glasgow back to London. Might be utter silence in the car if we lose.

No confidence that we will score so...
 

Nicki78

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Sep 20, 2005
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Key for me today is what kind of attitude we see from the players. If we see the kind of walking around we saw during the last few games I will be fuming. I just want to feel like the players still care. Think today will tell me a lot about how committed some of them are.
 

Goobers

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Jul 29, 2011
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Key for me today is what kind of attitude we see from the players. If we see the kind of walking around we saw during the last few games I will be fuming. I just want to feel like the players still care. Think today will tell me a lot about how committed some of them are.
It's Really funny but the Sheffield Utd game aside (once their second goal went in) I have not ANY problems with their attitude or application. None whatsoever. These calls for more "Pashun" from certain quarters is a little bizarre.
The massive problem I have is a side that looks low on confidence, with tactical ineptitude, not very good in game management, lack of creativity and playing seemingly quite one paced with a limited and gap filled squad.
The attitude has been fine from my point of view.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Dec 13, 2013
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This match is about damage limitation. Unless spurs get a lucky counter attack / set piece (penalty) I just cannot see where a goal will come from. Its got jose bore ball all over it, but as I've previously said, I'm not sure what else he can do with these players.

I dont think it'll be a mauling, i think theyll win but I'd take a draw all day long.

My little ray of hope is that it being a derby, form goes out the window a bit. If this doesnt fire their balls into some effort then they can all do one.
 

LDNYid

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Jan 28, 2011
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I think Ndombele has to start; I recognise he has his flaws, but he also has the creative ability to create chances - he moves the ball quickly in transition too which we'll need as Mourinho loves a counter. I'd have Lo Celso on the pitch too and I'd give skippy a go in defensive midfield to screen the defence and allow the aforementioned two to take more risks.
 

leelee

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Oct 6, 2004
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Pair Sissoko with his mate, Ndombele in the middle. Lo Celso behind Kane. Son and Bergwijn out wide. We will score. It's our defense that worries me.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Dec 13, 2013
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Won't be watching today will be in the garden in my hot tub with the phone on silent.
First time ever that I have missed a NLD, but can't be fucked with it, will check my phone tonight expecting the usual abuse from gooners and spammers joy.
:) :X3:?
Whatever! You wont be able to help yourself. Bet you have a tv set up in full view with little spurs flags on it, waiting in the hot tub, naked, ready to jump up and do little windmills if we score.
 

Ronwol196061

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Apr 9, 2018
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It's Really funny but the Sheffield Utd game aside (once their second goal went in) I have not ANY problems with their attitude or application. None whatsoever. These calls for more "Pashun" from certain quarters is a little bizarre.
The massive problem I have is a side that looks low on confidence, with tactical ineptitude, not very good in game management, lack of creativity and playing seemingly quite one paced with a limited and gap filled squad.
The attitude has been fine from my point of view.
Brilliant and right on.
I also think the ' VAR Conspiracy Against Tottenham Hotspur' also took the story away from the reality of the failings you mentioned.
I'd take just some creativity right now and the ability to string a couple of passes together.. never mind Push and Run... that will take time to develop
 
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