Match Threads Spurs vs Manchester City - Match Thread

[Ronwol196061]

The second part, the bit I highlighted, about Mourinho missing something wasn't a fact. People were disagreeing with that.

It was a f

The second part, the bit I highlighted, about Mourinho missing something wasn't a fact. People were disagreeing with that.

I agree the disagreeing wasnt so bad but I'd got a host of What the Fucks....a bit heavy for an opinion.
I appreciate you coming back with some logic but I dislike the hit and run style of some of the schmucks
My point about NDombele stretches into Mourinho's attitude with ND and I'm just hoping he will see that he has a winner there.
Anyway thanks for the clarification

 

[C0YS]

Souness _" Sterling is not that kind of player " Well nobody is that kind of a player until they get their first red card .
This statement is so irellevent that I find it hard to believe that one of the dirtiest players to step on a football field made it .
Scholes was " not that kind of player " and got away with it time after time we played in a game against United when I swear he should have had two red cards plus several yellows but "he's not that kind of player " when in fact he was one of the dirtiest .
Someone eventually sent him of in some game and he then had to reign it in a bit .
Making "not that kind of player " statement should be banned.

Also, who even is that kind of player?

I mean the amount of players who actively wish to make dangerous tackles on an opponent like that are in the single digits.

 

[max cady]

FWIW had the Sterling foul on Dele been the other way around are we sure Dele would have remained on the pitch I doubt it. Sterling was extremely lucky therefore lets give him the benefit of the doubt. What does annoy me is that he then dives when tackled by Lloris and he is not even given a 2nd yellow and consequently a red. I suspect and I think many will agree had that been a Spurs player he would have been red carded given the red card incidents we have suffered lately.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

One of the things that struck me forcefully last night was that City failed to adjust in any effective way to having a man sent off. They kept trying to do the same things and taking the same risks. OK, we scored three minutes later, so it's not as if they could have circled the wagons and played 9 men behind the ball, but they didn't adapt in defence or out of possession, they just kept trying to press and win the ball up high, despite no longer having the extra player to provide essential cover if the press failed.

The result was that we started to run through and pass through their midfield, instead of repeatedly losing the ball under moderate pressure, which is what had been happening throughout the first hour. Had they had the flexibility to drop back, keep safe possession and pick passes at leisure, they may not have won, but I don't think they would have had much difficulty in securing a point.

 

[ernie78]

Also, who even is that kind of player?

I mean the amount of players who actively wish to make dangerous tackles on an opponent like that are in the single digits.

Exactly!! If someone is that kind of player they need banning!!!

 

[cabinfever]

I’d have to say, about the Sterling tackle, it was a red card all day long and I’m quite sure if he wasn’t English the pundits would have a different opinion.

I’ve noticed this many times over the years. Take Shearer as an example (and Scholes), got away time after time!!

 

[ernie78]

I’d have to say, about the Sterling tackle, it was a red card all day long and I’m quite sure if he wasn’t English the pundits would have a different opinion.

I’ve noticed this many times over the years. Take Shearer as an example (and Scholes), got away time after time!!

And Gerrard or Stevie G as the media loves to call him

 

[Riandor]

One of the things that struck me forcefully last night was that City failed to adjust in any effective way to having a man sent off. They kept trying to do the same things and taking the same risks. OK, we scored three minutes later, so it's not as if they could have circled the wagons and played 9 men behind the ball, but they didn't adapt in defence or out of possession, they just kept trying to press and win the ball up high, despite no longer having the extra player to provide essential cover if the press failed.

The result was that we started to run through and pass through their midfield, instead of repeatedly losing the ball under moderate pressure, which is what had been happening throughout the first hour. Had they had the flexibility to drop back, keep safe possession and pick passes at leisure, they may not have won, but I don't they would have had much difficulty in securing a point.

But that's how City operate.
They are very effective at playing this one way and it in itself is pretty effective. Poch was similar and until the Diamond was quite rigid in his approach.

The issue is with Pep, I do not get the impression he likes to change. He trusts his team to turn any match around playing the way they are set-up. Often it works... but there are days!

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Last night was thye first night since the Cl run last year where I have enjoyed watching us, Even though we weren't dominant there was commitment and camaradrie that has been lacking for a long time. Also despite the pressure from City who are a superb side we didn't crumble, it was good to watch and I felt when we played Southampton away in the cup a 'style' was beginning to form and it was present again last night.

 

[cabinfever]

And Gerrard or Stevie G as the media loves to call him

Exactly and I’m not sure it’s deliberate, just a natural predisposition towards one of your own!! I’m not English so perhaps it’s easy for me to see it.......

 

[ernie78]

I think it is deliberate, I’m English and see it. Certain players are favourites and will get leniency with behaviours, others won’t. I suppose with Sterling who’s had so much unwarranted shit thrown at him in the past the media are a bit cautious to call him out on this.

 

[McFlash]

Last night was thye first night since the Cl run last year where I have enjoyed watching us, Even though we weren't dominant there was commitment and camaradrie that has been lacking for a long time. Also despite the pressure from City who are a superb side we didn't crumble, it was good to watch and I felt when we played Southampton away in the cup a 'style' was beginning to form and it was present again last night.

Agree with that, was proper screaming and jumping around at the goals, feels like I haven't done that for a while, been a lot more subdued.

 

[spursbhoy67]

And Gerrard or Stevie G as the media loves to call him

Speaking of Rangers managers, Souness despite being school by our own Bill Nicholson was that type of player. He crocked Tony Galvin in the 1982 League Cup Final to nullify his threat. It worked. We lost. Souness has a number of such tackles in his scrapbook especially in his player-manager days at Ibrox which set the tone for his team as they returned to title winning ways.

The pundits who played the game always come across holier than thou and back players and saying no one ever sets out to hurt a fellow professional. That is not my experience in the game. I have former managers and team mates say one thing in the media, but do something else on the pitch and in the dressing room. And some of the worst tackles I have seen were in training when it was clear a teammate set out to do a rival or put one in his place. But none were that type of player or manager. Sure!

 

[Gb160]

Agree with that, was proper screaming and jumping around at the goals, feels like I haven't don't that for a while, been a lot more subdued.

Same, at half time I thought we'd be sitting there at full time on the end of a humping.
I just lost my shit, it was so unexpected.

 

[Cochise]

A lot of people having a crack at Otamendi for stepping out on the second goal, but I thought Lamela's position forced that decision. The pass from N'Dombele looked like it was more likely going to be to Lamela who was in space.

 

[McFlash]

Same, at half time I thought we'd be sitting there at full time on the end of a humping.
I just lost my shit, it was so unexpected.

Yeah, I don't recall celebrating that hard since the Ajax game although alcohol may have had something to do with it!

 

[Gb160]

Yeah, I don't recall celebrating that hard since the Ajax game although alcohol may have had something to do with it!

Yeah I'd had quite a few early on as I wanted the dull the pain of them giving us a good shoeing.
Felt a mixture of dreadful and happy when I woke up this morning.

 

[Thenewcat]

I’d have to say, about the Sterling tackle, it was a red card all day long and I’m quite sure if he wasn’t English the pundits would have a different opinion.

I’ve noticed this many times over the years. Take Shearer as an example (and Scholes), got away time after time!!

Bang on. If Aurier has committed an identical offence everyone would say he’s reckless and it’s a straight red. Sounds actually tried to suggest that the view that Sterling isn’t that kind of player should influence the decision, which is pure bullshit. You should be judged on each incident on its own merits, and that was a dangerous tackle and hence a clear red

 

[spud]

Making "not that kind of player " statement should be banned.

I disagree. It should be encouraged because it's an easy way to establish that the person saying it has a double-digit IQ and should therefore not be taken seriously. Much like the ridiculous 'hardly any backlift' or the even worse 'no backlift' to describe a player shooting.

 

[slartibartfast]

Is everyone overly confident about Wednesday now?
I am.
I should know better but Lo Celso and Ndombele, fk its like having 2 Eriksens lol (good Eriksen not plop Eriksen).
I love the way they both seem to turn and go the opposite way to where the opposition think they are gonna go, bit like modric, and then drive forward. No sideways, backwards bollocks with these boys. Makes so much difference.
Its the optimism that kills you lol.