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Stats which suggest the Mauricio Pochettino effect has worked at Spurs

bsinghd

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All that the stats prove is that over five games, which all ended in draws, we covered almost an extra 28km than the other opponents.

On average a player covers about 8.5-10km a game, which means over five games our players did an extra three games worth of work.

Come the end of the season it wouldn't be a surprise to see us look lethargic. Putting in hard work is commendable but if it's not directed correctly (drawn games instead of wins, namely the Stoke game) then what's the point.
 

Chris_D

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It sounds like great news, we're running further and trying harder than the opposition. In this league we can't always have the more skilful players because teams like Citeh and Chelski will out spend us. We can work harder, prepare better and get our tactics right, so if Poch can do that we have to salute him.
 

JC-Rule

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Not sure about this stat to be fair.

Goals scored is the ultimate stat.

Of course you need stamina and fitness, but equally, technical ability is also important.

Finally as a Spurs fan, I don't want to be bored to death, I was so happy when AVB left.

Couldn't stand watching that style of football.
 

davidmatzdorf

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Jun 7, 2004
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All that the stats prove is that over five games, which all ended in draws, we covered almost an extra 28km than the other opponents.

I think there is an argument that all that extra hard work is getting us draws where previously we would have had losses. We're making it very difficult for the opposition to get on top of us and we are restricting chances and thus goals. It doesn't get us the league title, but it does get us one loss out of 12 matches. Where previously we would lose on a day when we are out of focus, now we draw instead.

Come the end of the season it wouldn't be a surprise to see us look lethargic.

This is where we should be concerned. We don't know how effective the fitness work is that Pochettino's team is doing, but in all this intense pressing and sprinting there are the seeds of late-season exhaustion and a major fade, especially given the pared-down nature of our squad compared to the previous 2-3 years. All we can do is to hope the youth and vigour of the players will be sufficient to carry us over the line.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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I think should we rotate adequately our squad should be fit enough to last the season, we have good cover everywhere (let's hope we get a striker to cover Kane) as opposed to last season where the replacements weren't up to it or didn't fit into the managers plans.
 

penfold_99

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I'm seeing this as a positive as all teams fitness levels decline over the season, if our fitness declines at a slower rate we will have the advantage in the last 15-20 minutes of games come the last quarter of the season.
 

zinzanzee

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Feb 8, 2011
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The majority of the 1st team players were in the squad when MP took over. As we grow as a team so our the youngsters themselves. I look as it more from the point that they are getting used to it and so are their bodies.

It will be when we start to regularly use this in scoring on the break. The last goal against Villa was a thing of beauty, but it was the extra effort raised that made it happen.
 

shelfboy68

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Not sure about this stat to be fair.

Goals scored is the ultimate stat.

Of course you need stamina and fitness, but equally, technical ability is also important.

Finally as a Spurs fan, I don't want to be bored to death, I was so happy when AVB left.

Couldn't stand watching that style of football.

Its about getting the balance right isnt it as for one i have got pissed off over the years seeing us entertain, only to lose say 4-3 or 3-2 or any random scoreline.
Ultimatley its about getting results whilst enjoying watching the team play winning football as much as possible.
 

diamondlight

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Nov 16, 2006
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All we can do is to hope the youth and vigour of the players will be sufficient to carry us over the line.
Plus a bit of squad rotation. All the fans who randomly decide to hate squad players such as Townsend and Fazio need to realise that these players will have a role to play in getting us over the line.
 

double0

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Aug 29, 2006
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All that the stats prove is that over five games, which all ended in draws, we covered almost an extra 28km than the other opponents.

On average a player covers about 8.5-10km a game, which means over five games our players did an extra three games worth of work.

Come the end of the season it wouldn't be a surprise to see us look lethargic. Putting in hard work is commendable but if it's not directed correctly (drawn games instead of wins, namely the Stoke game) then what's the point.

I suppose rotation is key for what you say doesn't happen
 

Dave-F

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Feb 26, 2004
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All that the stats prove is that over five games, which all ended in draws, we covered almost an extra 28km than the other opponents.

On average a player covers about 8.5-10km a game, which means over five games our players did an extra three games worth of work.

Come the end of the season it wouldn't be a surprise to see us look lethargic. Putting in hard work is commendable but if it's not directed correctly (drawn games instead of wins, namely the Stoke game) then what's the point.

I take your point, but that assume our players are no fitter than anyone else. Given it's a younger team, there's a good chance they can cope better than most players could. And they appeared to have more fitness training over the summer than most clubs did. We'll see.
 

Ironskullll

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How do we generally fare following an international break? It seems to me as though the breaks tend to affect our ability to sustain the same level of intensity as we've had prior to these breaks.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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Need to revisit this in may, especially if we get through the Europa league group stage.
We've a terrible record of looking like title winners before February then win 3 in 10 at the end.
It's burnout every time and I'm not convinced any group of players can run that much more every week in 2-3 competitions and last until the end.
I think the final 15 minutes against the scum perfectly illustrated that.
 

ecce_tottenham

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Jul 28, 2009
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Not sure about this stat to be fair.

Goals scored is the ultimate stat.

Of course you need stamina and fitness, but equally, technical ability is also important.

Finally as a Spurs fan, I don't want to be bored to death, I was so happy when AVB left.

Couldn't stand watching that style of football.

Why does work hard = boring?

Barcelona work hard. I've never been bored watching them. Bayern too.
 

bsinghd

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Jan 27, 2011
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Why does work hard = boring?

Barcelona work hard. I've never been bored watching them. Bayern too.
Agree with you to an extent, those two teams have possession of the ball a lot more so they can expend energy to get it back because it's only for a short period.

We seem to run out of ideas or run into a cul-de-sac towards the final third.

However, lately the team seem to be a bit more intelligent in their pressing and hunt in groups for a short period before getting back into position.

That was evident against Arsenal and I think it was only the fact that we played three games in six days that caused us to drop deeper and not press as much in the last 15 minutes.
 

HotspurFC1950

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I think there is an argument that all that extra hard work is getting us draws where previously we would have had losses. We're making it very difficult for the opposition to get on top of us and we are restricting chances and thus goals. It doesn't get us the league title, but it does get us one loss out of 12 matches. Where previously we would lose on a day when we are out of focus, now we draw instead.



This is where we should be concerned. We don't know how effective the fitness work is that Pochettino's team is doing, but in all this intense pressing and sprinting there are the seeds of late-season exhaustion and a major fade, especially given the pared-down nature of our squad compared to the previous 2-3 years. All we can do is to hope the youth and vigour of the players will be sufficient to carry us over the line.


Our goal differential has improved.
 
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