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Player Watch - Steven Bergwijn signs for Ajax

Jan 28, 2011
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He's in the beaumont

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WiganSpur

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Very happy with this. If we get a striker in too then it'll be good to see real beginnings of a squad rejuvenation.

Hopefully Aurier continues his form then RB becomes slightly less of a priority too. It'll certainly mean whilst we can't be complacent, we can at least be a little more relaxed heading into the summer. Two or three defensive signings should be all we need to be back in business IMO.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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He receives the ball and has the skill (and maybe vision?) to make things happen certainly. But it is reactive and not central to the way the team plays, at the moment. Maybe that will change. Yesterday, the brilliant run wasn't planned - it happened. Someone gave him the ball and he saw the opportunity and reacted. I don't disagree he is a good player at all. I don't see he has a plan and therefore pulls the strings of the rest of the team in that way from a central position - he does that through his skill and opportunity.

In addition, if the rest of the team are playing such quick flicky, little passes to each other then it is not surprise that sometimes they don't work.

But at least you had the decency to reply as to why you disagreed! :LOL:;)

Having watched a lot of both Gio and Tongee, I can assure you that they both possess the ability to control the team, they simply need a proper team shape where they play centrally.

I personally think we’re already seeing many signs of Gio taking control of our play, when Mourinho puts him central and doesn’t waste him out wide.

Sure both him and Tongee love to play it quickly but they are more than capable of control and just because they move it quick, it doesn’t mean they don’t see the bigger picture.

In time, I’m confident you will realise they both possess the skills you’re looking for.
 

Hoopspur

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Having watched a lot of both Gio and Tongee, I can assure you that they both possess the ability to control the team, they simply need a proper team shape where they play centrally.

I personally think we’re already seeing many signs of Gio taking control of our play, when Mourinho puts him central and doesn’t waste him out wide.

Sure both him and Tongee love to play it quickly but they are more than capable of control and just because they move it quick, it doesn’t mean they don’t see the bigger picture.

In time, I’m confident you will realise they both possess the skills you’re looking for.
Fingers crossed and I hope the rest of the team have the ability and skills to react to their way of playing then :whistle:. Coincidently, I feel it is certainly no coincidence at all that the team's demise came with the loss of Dembele. This position was my priority - that's all I was trying to say :(
 
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slartibartfast

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Does seem a strange buy imo. We have attacking midfielders out the arse. We cant play them all.
We badly need defensive players.
I wonder who is going to be leaving as I doubt we'll keep Kane, Alli, Son, Moura, Lamela, Fernandes, LoCelso, Winks, Ndomble, Sissoko and now Bergwijn.
I hope we're not turning into Arsenal, just keep going for attacking midfielders instead of the positions we need.
 

walworthyid

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Fingers crossed and I hope the rest of the team have the ability and skills to react to their way of playing then. Coincidently, I feel it is certainly no coincidence at all that the team's demise came with the loss of Dembele. This position was my priority - that's all I was saying :(
Yep. Absolutely correct. Since he left we just cannot control games. I can remember the game away at juventus. We went 2 nil down and just took control. We dominated. We did at pool that season, Barcelona last season. We could go to virtually any ground and dominate.

We need to get a ball playing beast of a dm to provide the platform for the team to play.
 

JayB

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Does seem a strange buy imo. We have attacking midfielders out the arse. We cant play them all.
We badly need defensive players.
I wonder who is going to be leaving as I doubt we'll keep Kane, Alli, Son, Moura, Lamela, Fernandes, LoCelso, Winks, Ndomble, Sissoko and now Bergwijn.
I hope we're not turning into Arsenal, just keep going for attacking midfielders instead of the positions we need.
Half the players you listed are central midfielders, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lucas, Lamela, and SIssoko were made available to interested clubs in the summer.
 

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Netflix has Don’t Fuck With Cats

Amazon’s gonna have Don’t Fuck With Transfer Hungry Spurs Fans

Doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue, but anyway ...
 

walworthyid

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Half the players you listed are central midfielders, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lucas, Lamela, and SIssoko were made available to interested clubs in the summer.
Mourinho seems to want to create a ball playing team rather than a team of physical specimens like Dyer/Sissoko/Wanyama. Sissoko is vulnerable, but I think he likes both lamela and lucas.
 

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Now we have a transfer window - it's this kinda random shit that makes it for me - hotel ITK, on the same plane ITK - fantastic stuff!
 

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Netflix has Don’t Fuck With Cats

Amazon’s gonna have Don’t Fuck With Transfer Hungry Spurs Fans

Doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue, but anyway ...
Remember the “You’ve been tangoed” adverts from the 90’s? We should do a fan version in blue with “you’ve been Levy’ed”. Cue shots of angry Leverkusen, PSV, PSG Chairman being slapped by a small bald man and a large blue cockerel... And I’ve clearly had too much beer...
 

BringBack_leGin

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Does seem a strange buy imo. We have attacking midfielders out the arse. We cant play them all.
We badly need defensive players.
I wonder who is going to be leaving as I doubt we'll keep Kane, Alli, Son, Moura, Lamela, Fernandes, LoCelso, Winks, Ndomble, Sissoko and now Bergwijn.
I hope we're not turning into Arsenal, just keep going for attacking midfielders instead of the positions we need.
Well Kane, Dele, Son, Moura and Lamela operate exclusively in the final third, while Fernandes, Lo Celso, Winks, Ndombele and Sissoko operate primarily in the middle third. If we’re going with 2 for ever position then that leaves room for 2 more additions to our front 6, no?
 

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Mourinho seems to want to create a ball playing team rather than a team of physical specimens like Dyer/Sissoko/Wanyama. Sissoko is vulnerable, but I think he likes both lamela and lucas.
I can see this being an interesting time for us, a lot of people seemed worried about negative football under Mourinho. If he wants a balls out attacking formation, hell yeah!
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Fingers crossed and I hope the rest of the team have the ability and skills to react to their way of playing then :whistle:. Coincidently, I feel it is certainly no coincidence at all that the team's demise came with the loss of Dembele. This position was my priority - that's all I was trying to say :(

For me the 3 biggest priorities are:

DM - A strong, mobile player who reads the game well, protects the back 4 and provides balance to the midfield, winning it back and allowing Ndombele and Lo Celso to do their thing in possession.

WF - A quick, agile wing forward who can play both sides and cause teams problems with dribbling and quick, skilled interplay.

Striker - I would personally prefer a flexible forward like Werner but it seems Mourinho wants a number 9.

After this, a right back and new CB.
 

slartibartfast

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Half the players you listed are central midfielders, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lucas, Lamela, and SIssoko were made available to interested clubs in the summer.
None of those I listed can be considered defensive midfielders. They're attacking. Some more creative than others but none of them have the defensive qualities we need in midfield and have been.missing since Dier and Wanyama fell away.
Agree it'll probably be those you mentioned, maybe not Lucas but all will be revealed.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Regardless of all the commotion: PSV will be selling Bergwijn this week to Tottenham Hotspur, if the formalities are in order. The club wants - understandably - to get the most out of it. More than 30 million must be achievable, it is expected. Quite a considerable amount.
 
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