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jolegend

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Before I start, let me clarify that this is not a knee jerk reaction. This is based on 9 months of football and many, many press conferences...

Poch is done. Finished. He doesn’t want to be here. I love the man because he has given us 5 fantastic years of which I would never have thought I would see. I am grateful for what he has done but I can also see when the end is due.

I also watch football with my eyes. And our football, the style of play and the passion, has been turgid since at least late December 2018. We have lost a lot of games of football during that period. And we deserved to lose those games.

Now some could say we were tired and the lack of investment affected the squad during that period. And I’m sure that was a contributing factor to our performances. But it doesn’t stand as an excuse for sideways, boring, narrow, dull and flat football. That is tactics. And that comes from the manager.

This season, we are playing without our best centre back. Seemingly due to Poch want to make a point. But it’s a detriment to the team. We scraped past Villa. We were appaling versus city. We were lucky to have 4 points. And today, we got what was coming.

Huge issues in our transfer policy. Where is the pace and where are the true ‘spursy’ players...the ones who get you off your seat!? Huge issues with our set up. Two defensive minded players who can’t play forward against Newcastle at home? Please. Sideways football. Not passion. No pace. It’s dull and turgid with a complete lack of direction.

I watched Liverpool vs Arsenal. Joel Matip, who is not anywhere near Toby in terms of quality, was paying forward with pace, determination and purpose. That comes from the coach. When we play, Toby labours and plays sideways. It’s a massive problem because our style of football has regressed at an alarming rate. We have been left behind.

The main issue stems from Poch and his current PR brigade. You can see in his demeanour, attitude and press conferences that he doesn’t want to be here. His comments in the press and the overall arrogance of his own self importance is affecting the team. He has ideas above his station. Reminds me of Eriksen....he has won nothing and flatters to deceive when it really matters. Yes, the champions league run was amazing but we had an unbelievable amount of luck.

I love Poch. I really do. But thanks for the memories. You don’t want us anymore and that is fine. You want to better yourself and believe you can do better elsewhere. So do us all a favour and say what you really mean. Stop the cryptic. You aren’t Mourinho. If you want to go, then go. And let Tottenham continue to grow...
 

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jolegend

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This could have just been in the Match Thread with the 300 other posts just like it.

Snarf, you always post sensible stuff.

You can’t tell me that you are happy with what you have been watching?

And what do you think about Poch? He isn’t helping matters.
 

Mandy Dingle

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I'm as apoplectic as the next person, but let's give it a few more games into the season before we declare an emergency. It's not looking great, sure, but there's a lot of fantasy in your post backed up by nothing more than gut feeling and illogical leaps that would make Greg Rutherford proud.
 

L-man

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It’s not. What have you been watching since December!?
Watching us to get to and play in a Champions league final with a threadbare squad. What the flying fuck are you talking about?

Yes it’s fucking shit today but suggesting the manager isn’t up to it 3 games after a Champions League final is fucking ludicrous.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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I think it's Pochettino's last season. Somebody will grow too tired of somebody. Levy splashed the cash and won't get return on investment, and will be fed up. Pochettino was calling for a "a new 5 year plan" and will feel like the club is stagnant, and will grow tired. The squad motivation seems really low, and Pochettino is not helping. You have a vision for the club playing at home in the new stadium. And Pochettino won't deliver that vision. So he will have to go.
 

yawa

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It is a shame that we can’t have a thread which discusses what we do next. Which could very much be the case with the way we’ve played recently.

Poch moves on?

Poch changes up his coaching team? Something top managers seemed to do.

Poch stays

Lots of interesting debate to have if everyone didn’t just come out with the knee jerk reaction comments.
 

kaz Hirai

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Watching us to get to and play in a Champions league final with a threadbare squad. What the flying fuck are you talking about?

Yes it’s fucking shit today but suggesting the manager isn’t up to it 3 games after a Champions League final is fucking ludicrous.

Yeah maybe wait till Christmas before we declare it's over
 

jolegend

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Watching us to get to and play in a Champions league final with a threadbare squad. What the flying fuck are you talking about?

Yes it’s fucking shit today but suggesting the manager isn’t up to it 3 games after a Champions League final is fucking ludicrous.
Didn’t say he was up to it!

I said he doesn’t want to be here.

Champions league was amazing. But a huge amount of luck and our league form was atrocious.
 

Snarfalicious

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Snarf, you always post sensible stuff.

You can’t tell me that you are happy with what you have been watching?

And what do you think about Poch? He isn’t helping matters.

Of course I'm not happy. I posted in the Match Thread that's the most drained (from frustration) that I've felt in long time. It's just not good enough right now. Jan is better than Sanchez; we know this. Eriksen is our best creator; we know this. Unfortunately, Poch is putting our squad in a position where he's willingly making us weaker on the pitch because he's trying to prove a point.

My issue is none of us give a shit about that. We all want our best team on the pitch, and personally I couldn't care less if him, Eriksen and Jan aren't seeing eye to eye so long as they are playing to their standards come match days. Play the best team, get us points. In the end, success can cure many ailments and general misgivings.

I also agree something seems 'up' with Poch. I still think he's reeling from the Champions League Final defeat. The whole mood has changed, and I truly think he's just a human being in a rut. Obviously that's concerning because it trickles down from the top.
 

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If this isn’t a knee jerk reaction then why not post it a few days ago? Or wait a few days and post it then. You could have come out with this any time.

This is massively a knee jerk reaction, it’s linked directly to today’s result, the timing gives it away.

Personally, I think it’s obvious that this is Pochs last season with us, that’s based on nothing but a hunch though.
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

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Last season we were hit by numerous injuries, moving from one stadium to another (don’t tell me it doesn’t take time to feel at home somewhere else) as well as that stagnant transfer window.

It’s going to take more than three games to get back on track, not to mention getting some key players integrated and fit.

Get a grip ffs.
 

poc

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Certainly feels things are not right at the club right now. His interviews.dont douch to dispel that thinking either. I hope he isn't done though and he can get the team back clicking and playing as.they have the talent to.do. dreading the NLD though ?
 

jolegend

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If Liverpool or city had our form in the league, we would find it hilarious and calling their manager out.

We routinely take the mick out of solskjaer.

Why does Poch get a free pass?
 
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