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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 1st January 2019

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thebenjamin

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Spurs already do this, as do all premier league clubs, although it’s not news worthy as they are kids.

The challenge is, only very few children go to the very top of the game compared to the 100’s and thousands of kids playing academy football.

My sons friend, was bought by one of the top premier league clubs last season at the age of 14. Not only a ridiculous fee for a kid, but family also looked after.This happens at Spurs too, the geographical area clubs can scout players from expands as they go through the years, so clubs bring players in from all over the world all the time.
GRGanted itbdoeant have n immediate impact on the first team, but the project at spurs isn’t aimed on short term success, it’s aimed at long term longetivity and success, hence the not so immediate results.

Chelsea offered my mate a million quid to take his son out of arsenal's academy and into theirs. He's 14 (the son)
 

Tyler24durden

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£50/£60m is the going rate.

It’s always going up, that’s why it’s better to buy now rather than later as it’ll always cost more.

Eriksen is simply irreplaceable to us as a team.

Huge rebuilding job in the summer with Toby, Dembele and eriksen likely off and probably only £75m in fees for players worth much more.

Poor future planning by levy imho, perhaps taking his eye off the ball with the stadium.
 
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Fredo

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I believe we are being sold a lie with all this 'long-term success'. The fans really believe Levy will just splash the cash when the money from the stadium comes in? He's keeping that money for himself lads - might not even sell the club if he gets too comfortable (similar to Kroenke at Arsenal).
 

King of the Lane

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Ndombeles agent spoke to the press and said Lyon want £72mill but that price could probably be haggled down. My bet is he goes for £60-65mill which is a fair price in this market.

People keep mentioning to just buy the upcoming talent but that leaves you in this viscious cycle we are currently in - buy upcoming talent - top stars leave - the upcoming talent becomes the new top stars for us but we are still 1-2 top stars away from winning something. Rinse and repeat.

Statement signings need to be made to move us on. Its the simple truth.
 
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jay2040

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Chelsea offered my mate a million quid to take his son out of arsenal's academy and into theirs. He's 14 (the son)

Reckon if it was Spurs in for him he would have got a free tour of the stadium when it's open!
 

TEESSIDE1

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Ndombeles agent spoke to the press and said Lyon want £72mill but that price could probably be haggled down. My bet is he goes for £60-65mill which is a fair price in this market.

People keep mentioning to just buy the upcoming talent but that leaves you in this vicious cycle we are currently in - buy upcoming talent - top stars leave - the upcoming talent becomes the new top stars for us but we are still 1-2 top stars away from winning something. Rinse and repeat.

Statement signings need to be made to move us on. Its the simple truth.

It’s as if the club has lost it’s identity and got their knickers in such a twist that they don’t know how to untangle them. We’ve had ITK of late stating we need statement signings as opposed to youngsters but then we’re linked with a host of youthful players before reverting back to the likes of N’Dombele whom unless we grow a pair are out of our price range.

We’re repeatedly told how the future is bright but is it really? Yes we’ve a fantastic stadium and a very strong youthful squad but we’re on the brink of losing 3-4 of our best players and look nowhere near to replacing any of them.

We’ve had ITK about the need to make quality signings to help keep these players but unless we change our draconian approach to transfers our dream will quickly become a nightmare. It’s not as if we need 4 plus x £80m signings or wholesale changes, just a couple of quality signings with some promising youngsters is what we need. N’Dombele would be a fantastic statement and go a long way to solving our crisis in central midfield for years to come. These types of players are few and far between, we must pay the going rate if we’re serious about competing and winning actual trophies.
 

ikky

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We must’ve had some sort of transfer budget for last summer and we spent 0. Poch refused to buy second or third choice players so the funds must be there. Instead of spending money on multiple punts I’d rather spend it all on one special player.
 
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dagraham

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I know I'm pissing in the wind here, but £80m is a "fuck off" price for pretty much anyone. 8 transfers in history have involved an £80m+ fee (and 2 of those were Cristiano Ronaldo). We're also talking about proven, indisputably world class players attracting that sort of fee. Ndombele isn't near that yet.

Which is why we should have trusted our instincts and tried to get him a year or two earlier.

The reality is though that we wouldn’t have paid the fee then either as say £30-40m approx would then have been deemed too high for a player who was a bit raw, with Dembele still playing well etc.

That’s what good succession planning is about though. We are still far too reactive rather than proactive in the transfer market imo.

Just like we should have got a younger similar type no. 10 to both complement and learn off Eriksen.

Instead we are going to end up scrabbling around desperately to replace several quality and experienced players.
 

dondo

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Chelsea offered my mate a million quid to take his son out of arsenal's academy and into theirs. He's 14 (the son)

A million quid to get your kid out of Arsenal sound good but the bad bit is he has to play for Chelsea ?
 

spud

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Which is why we should have trusted our instincts and tried to get him a year or two earlier.

The reality is though that we wouldn’t have paid the fee then either as say £30-40m approx would then have been deemed too high for a player who was a bit raw, with Dembele still playing well etc.

That’s what good succession planning is about though. We are still far too reactive rather than proactive in the transfer market imo.

Just like we should have got a younger similar type no. 10 to both complement and learn off Eriksen.

Instead we are going to end up scrabbling around desperately to replace several quality and experienced players.
We have been proactive and no doubt will continue to be. N'Jie, N'Koudou and Janssen were all proactive buys, as was Alli. Some work out and some don't. The problem is the risk-reward ratio. Can we afford to spend £30-40m on a player who might make it or do we continue to spend £10-15m on these players?

You can get the occasional gem. Bayern spent (up to) $20m on Alphonso Davies from the Vancouver Whitecaps and he looks like he will be a hell of a player, but there is no guarantee. Instincts - and performance in lower-quality leagues - don't always deliver success.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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We won't spend the money required for the Ndombele's of this world under ENIC imo as I'm firmly of the belief that they have one eye strongly on selling the club and and their philosophy from now on in will be we spend whatever we generate from sales.

I don't think they are interested in having any great net spend or pushing for titles etc at this stage as I think they are preparing to cash out soon and main focus is getting the stadium completed and push through a sale in say a year or so once the stadium is up and running.
So let's spend the Eriksen and Toby cash on Ndombele.
 
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