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SpurSince57

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Yeah but what Blanc did at Bordeaux was more than akin to what Klopp has done, and on top of that Blanc has turned around the national team from a disaster into a lot of pundits pick to go very far in this tournament. SO therefore he has taken an upper mid-table French side to the title with little investment, showing he is a good coach. And he has managed to control the egos of the French national team showing he is a good man manager.

Blanc comes with little risk IMO, then again its just an opinion like anything else.

I'm sorry, this makes no sense whatsoever.

The French national team was a collection of highly talented players in the charge of a nutter. They would surely have been so relieved to get anyone who wasn't as mad as a box of frogs that they'd have responded positively.

Where do you think Dortmund were before Klopp took over?
 

Gedson100

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I had thought Klopp was a German with a silly name, but after watching mere seconds of that video, I like him.

Regards AVB I think people have been too quick to write him off, he had no chance at Chelsea and this time twelve months ago, I was dreaming of him taking over, so if we could ensnare him now, that'd be a good move in my book. A bad year does not a bad manager make.
I have similar feelings towards Sturridge as a player, a year ago I thought we should have gone for him but then he seemed to have a role in AVBs 'Chelsea Revolution' and stayed...

Whatever happens with Redknapp, he ain't the future and is only a short term solution. Can't have Moyes, I just visualise poor starts followed by a 7th place finish year on year, though agree that whomever comes in could do with focussing our players throughout 90 minutes of football...

BTW, who did Levy meet with today? Zero ITK has come through about his whereabouts, which i'd say would be paramount to what we're doing.
 

felmani26

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Jurgen Klopp works well in the Borussia Dortmund system and it is a very well oiled machine indeed.

I'm not sure taking him here would replicate the same dynamic he has with the hierarchy at BVB but I certainly wouldn't say no to going down that route.
 

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Akqayid's source on the Harry-Levy thing is an agent. I would hazard a guess that what he was told was opinion—possibly informed opinion, but opinion nevertheless. Why should an anonymous agent have a particular insight into what's happening behind the scenes at Spurs?

What Adie's source is, who knows?

Archibald's been consistently the most trustworthy ITK over the last seven years, and probably longer. If he says he doesn't really know what's going on, then it's a very good bet that no-one does.

The 'club' was talking to Ramos via Tony Jimenez for at least a couple of months before the fiasco at the Rey Alfonso. There wasn't so much as a whisper that anything was happening.
 

hybridsoldier

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I'm sorry, this makes no sense whatsoever.

The French national team was a collection of highly talented players in the charge of a nutter. They would surely have been so relieved to get anyone who wasn't as mad as a box of frogs that they'd have responded positively.

Where do you think Dortmund were before Klopp took over?

Erm German Cup Finalist? Sure they had a pretty average league season - look at the team they had then then look at the team they have now. You have to credit the technical director and scouts for assembled a good team alongside the manager.

Thats utter bollocks about France, there's responding positively and theres going 20+ games through friendlies and qualifying and only losing 1/2 games.

So on one hand your happy to commend Klopp for coming and changing the fortunes on a club not doing so well, but you think that Blanc who has done this at club (through a good scouting and sporting director system) and international level (where he has to work with what he has) is no good? Apparently "anyone" could have done the French job....think any argument you had falls flat on that sentence alone.

Klopp is a good manager, I'm not anti-Klopp, I just think he's more of a risk than Blanc. Klopp has done a great job but so did Andre Villas-Boas.
 

hybridsoldier

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Jurgen Klopp works well in the Borussia Dortmund system and it is a very well oiled machine indeed.

I'm not sure taking him here would replicate the same dynamic he has with the hierarchy at BVB but I certainly wouldn't say no to going down that route.

Well done mate, you've managed to sum up my thoughts a lot more succulently and to the point than I managed to!
 

SpurSince57

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Erm German Cup Finalist? Sure they had a pretty average league season - look at the team they had then then look at the team they have now. You have to credit the technical director and scouts for assembled a good team alongside the manager.

Thats utter bollocks about France, there's responding positively and theres going 20+ games through friendlies and qualifying and only losing 1/2 games.

So on one hand your happy to commend Klopp for coming and changing the fortunes on a club not doing so well, but you think that Blanc who has done this at club (through a good scouting and sporting director system) and international level (where he has to work with what he has) is no good? Apparently "anyone" could have done the French job....think any argument you had falls flat on that sentence alone.

Klopp is a good manager, I'm not anti-Klopp, I just think he's more of a risk than Blanc. Klopp has done a great job but so did Andre Villas-Boas.

Perhaps you could point out where I wrote that Blanc is 'no good'. You may have problems expressing yourself clearly and succinctly (or 'succulently', as you put it); I don't. You seem to have difficulty understanding English as well. I asked why you believed Klopp to be a risk, and Blanc not. You've still failed to provide an answer.

Perhaps you didn't understand the question. As the other night you 'disagreed' with a factual statement I made, this doesn't entirely surprise me.
 

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Erm German Cup Finalist? Sure they had a pretty average league season - look at the team they had then then look at the team they have now. You have to credit the technical director and scouts for assembled a good team alongside the manager.

Thats utter bollocks about France, there's responding positively and theres going 20+ games through friendlies and qualifying and only losing 1/2 games.

So on one hand your happy to commend Klopp for coming and changing the fortunes on a club not doing so well, but you think that Blanc who has done this at club (through a good scouting and sporting director system) and international level (where he has to work with what he has) is no good? Apparently "anyone" could have done the French job....think any argument you had falls flat on that sentence alone.

Klopp is a good manager, I'm not anti-Klopp, I just think he's more of a risk than Blanc. Klopp has done a great job but so did Andre Villas-Boas.


Are you sure you're not Kloppist ? Or just a shade Kloppphobic ?
 

felmani26

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Well done mate, you've managed to sum up my thoughts a lot more succulently and to the point than I managed to!

I aim to please! ;)

Seriously though, the Borussia Dortmund model from top to bottom is one which we should realistically aspire to without the need of a wealthy benefactor/oligarch - not to mention if we can replicate anything like their stadium then we are on to a winner!
 
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