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King of Otters

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No, because booing our own side is despicable in any circumstances.

And they don't disagree with me by the way, I fully agree that this window is disappointed and I have concerns about the season ahead. I'm just not desperate about it as I still think we'll have a good season, play good football, challenge near the top and I'm fucking excited about that.

Where do you stand on burning Daniel Levy effigies?

Asking for a friend.
 

RuskyM

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We have money, the clubs who are after players who are good enough for us have much more money, the players going for fees that are in our current ball park are nowhere near good enough for us. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground, or if there is it's only in a few circumstances. Grealish might have represented that, it turned out not. Shaquiri might have represented that (though lord knows what his salary is when the fee was so cheap), but then we are overstocked with AMs who are at least as good if not better and mcuh more in tune with Pochettino's work rate requirements.

We are not the poor relation. We're owned by a billionaire, we're in the richest league in the world, we've been in the highest paying tournament in club football for three years. If we don't have money, then there's something wrong.

You narrow down targets - you think of what you need, you think of who you can get, and you go for them. That *no one* fit this category is either a failure of scouting, management or ownership, perhaps all three. It's not a one time thing either - Levy has previous with this. If you meet 'difficult negotiations' every summer, then maybe you're the issue.

If we want to play the "we can't compete" card, fine. Tell our class players and manager that, we can stop wasting their time.
 

joelstinton14

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Thanks, Daniel.

Where this argument falls flat on its face is when you look at many clubs beneath us in terms of stature, Champions League football, Domestic League, etc. that spend millions each transfer window in attempting to strengthen their squad and somehow continue to operate.

he actually address that in his post.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Weird that the Goat hasnt come out with "That's all folks" yet. Get that thing out of its pen again and put us all out of our misery here so we can start the mutiny on Dear Leader Daniel Levy, @Archibald&Crooks
If I’d access to a desktop instead of a mobile that’s exactly what The Goat would be saying. Unless something falls into Wily E Cayote’s lap, that’s all folks.
 

chaching

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This is so boring.

We're the 11th most valuable, and it's mainly based on our assets (high value players, high value new stadium, debts owed to us by others), and a part of that is our liquid but only a part. And our liquid is far less than those sides who each have over a decade worth of CL and, in some cases, over 2 decades. We may now be getting a big slice of TV money, but we are massively playing catch up. Then factor in that our global brand still generates a fraction of all the other top 6.

As for Levy's salary being doubled, actually no, he just received piled up bonuses from previous years on top of his basic. And oh, shock horror, MD of giant international corporation is paid a lot.

We have money, the clubs who are after players who are good enough for us have much more money, the players going for fees that are in our current ball park are nowhere near good enough for us. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground, or if there is it's only in a few circumstances. Grealish might have represented that, it turned out not. Shaquiri might have represented that (though lord knows what his salary is when the fee was so cheap), but then we are overstocked with AMs who are at least as good if not better and mcuh more in tune with Pochettino's work rate requirements.

Just because Mr Bob owns a house worth £300,000, he still needs to have an income (not just turnover) which allows him to spend money on food. He can't offer Tesco a flower from his garden in return for a piece of bread, it doesn't work like that. Just because we are valued very highly and we are balance sheet rich, it in no way means we are cash rich and the fact that nobody gets this is deeply, deeply upsetting.
I know you have been given a lot of stick for your posts today and will probably get more for this but I have found it very refreshing amongst the back drop of everyone going mad and it is much appreciated by me if not anyone else.
 

Saoirse

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What is your explanation then, for Pochettino being promised the players he wanted prior to signing his contract. In addition to that, the talk of £150m net spend etc etc.
It's talk. Who knows if it was correct or not? Sometimes ITK hits the mark, sometimes it doesn't, I'm sure the people offering it would be the first to say that. Not least because circumstances change - that may for instance have been based on the assumption we'd have sorted the naming rights, whereas in reality we've decided it seems to hold of given that it's a very cold market in Britain right now for those kind of highly expensive and long-term commercial ties.
 

Hercules

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A journo has just texted me that they are already been given a spin. That Poch is very specific the type of players he wanted. And it was more him deciding not to sign for the sake of it. This journo also knows the truth, which ‘I/we may go public if it is safe to do so’. Club are watching social media like gestapos. No joke.
 
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Stoof

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Jun 5, 2004
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Thanks, Daniel.

Where this argument falls flat on its face is when you look at many clubs beneath us in terms of stature, Champions League football, Domestic League, etc. that spend millions each transfer window in attempting to strengthen their squad and somehow continue to operate.

But we done a big stadium tho. £1bn property dev.

Big ting. Serious!

No, seriously. It's quite a large thing. N17 postcode. Dashing it is; dashing.
 

U.S. Spurs Fan

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Whether we sign anyone or not - and I'd rather not sign players if they don't improve our first team - what is clear to me is that with DL at the helm we will never be serial challengers for the PL - just serial floaters that will hover around the top 4. Every time we have been in a position to seriously make up ground in the transfer market he has bottled it. Everything has to be opportunistic with him. If he had made just one fcuking signing of note this summer be it a CM or WF that would have got fans / players and Poch excited, everyone would enter the season in a different mood.

My worry is if Levy isn't going to go for it this window (three straight top 3 finishes, new stadium, young team on verge of something special) and push for that little extra boost, when exactly will he? This was the PERFECT opportunity to do something and he did nothing to improve the team. Still mind-blowing.
 

boogy down

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"The 5 stages of grief are: : 1. Denial and isolation; 2. Anger; 3. Bargaining; 4. Depression; 5. Acceptance. People who are grieving do not necessarily go through the stages in the same order or experience all of them. "

I think we have reached Stage 2 now.
 

dtxspurs

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A journo has just texted me that they are already been given a spin. That Pochis very specific the type of players he wanted. And it was more him deciding not to sign for the sake of it. This journo also knows the truth, which ‘I/we may go public if it is safe to do so’. Club are watching social media like gestapos. No joke.
Not surprising one bit.
 

RuskyM

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A journo has just texted me that they are already been given a spin. That Pochis very specific the type of players he wanted. And it was more him deciding not to sign for the sake of it. This journo also knows the truth, which ‘I/we may go public if it is safe to do so’. Club are watching social media like gestapos. No joke.

Shocking.
 

sebo_sek

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Ok. So we don't sign anyone, but we have left the squad intact and that has to mean something. They will simply have to really earn their millions
 
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