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Sum Monsterism

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Did you run out of fingers and toes?

sure did, but then I took my foot out of yo momma.

Thing is; Spurs could win all games except for top 4. But then let's say City win all their games plus 1/2/3 of their matches against the other 3 in the top 4. That means your suggestion is wrong, right?
 

Lilbaz

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sure did, but then I took my foot out of yo momma.

Thing is; Spurs could win all games except for top 4. But then let's say City win all their games plus 1/2/3 of their matches against the other 3 in the top 4. That means your suggestion is wrong, right?

30 wins wold have got us 90 points which would have won us the league.
But we didn't.
 

RuskyM

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Could say this about FDB too ya know

Yet he's constantly managed at a higher level and has far more on his CV than Pochettino.

This sounds like I don't rate Poch. I do. He's done well. I just don't think he's what we need right now. Which is annoying, because what we need either would cost £2m from Naples or has been abasing himself for the job in the press this past month.
 

Air Jordan 3

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Big plus with Poch is we get our good football back (should do anyway). And I am all for that.

We don't necessarily get that with FDB unless he changes from what Ajax are doing.
 

spurs9

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Big plus with Poch is we get our good football back (should do anyway). And I am all for that.

We don't necessarily get that with FDB unless he changes from what Ajax are doing.
You don't think Ajax are playing good football?
 

spurs9

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Back in April, JJ (on the you know what website) hinted that a transfer had already been completed. Did this ever get elaborated on?


The actual quote was:


"You wait till you see who he will be playing with next season ;0)"


In response to someone saying the below about Eriksen:


“reminds me of Modric first season playing on the left. Hopefully given time he’ll finally end up CM. Modric with goals would be good ha.”
 

formlesswater

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sure did, but then I took my foot out of yo momma.

Thing is; Spurs could win all games except for top 4. But then let's say City win all their games plus 1/2/3 of their matches against the other 3 in the top 4. That means your suggestion is wrong, right?
There are 20 teams in the Prem. If we won all our games against the bottom 16 teams, then we would have: 16 teams X 2 games each X 3 points per win = 96 points. That would be 10 points more than City this year.
 

arunspurs

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The only manager who we could get with some PL & CL experience is Benitez; Even he might not want to leave Napoli at the moment; Apart from him, can't think of another one with similar profile who is available;

Candidate list is quite short IMO. We have no way but to look for young & upcoming manager. So, there is always a element of risk associated with it. We already missed the boat on Rodgers & Martinez, saying they aren't good enough or big enough for Spurs.

Lets not make the same mistake again.

AVB lost the boardroom & looked to have lost the appetite in 2nd year; On other hand, Sherwood lost the senior players in the dressing room. Both made huge mistakes.

Pochettino IMO is a perfect candidate

PROs :

i) PL experience ✓
ii) Player management - both in Espanyol & Southampton, his players adored him ✓
iii) Work under DoF model ✓
iv) Play attacking football ✓
v) Set the team up well defensively ✓
vi) Develop & nuture academy players ✓
vii) Punch above the weight ✓
viii) Talk no nonsense to media ✓✓

CONs:

i) Has not got a eye for a player - buys of Osvaldo & Wanyama didnt work out except may be Louvren
ii) Has not won anything

To me, his pros outweigh the cons;
Also, am least bothered about the 2nd because we need to see his achievements in the context. No one expected Southampton to be in Europe; infact not many thought they would survive in PL, when he took over from Nigel Adkins; A top 8 finish is commendable given the number of young players he gave chance & played;

The first one is a concern, but if he could work with Baldini or Bloomfield, I am sure it can be taken care of.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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But no one knows who will be 'the right one'

I can think of positives and negatives of RB, FDB and Poch and am still undecided.

What I do know is that we need to fully back any manager 100% and give time.


Fixed.

What i do know is that we need to fully back any manager 100% and give him until at least November.
 

Spurger King

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The only manager who we could get with some PL & CL experience is Benitez; Even he might not want to leave Napoli at the moment; Apart from him, can't think of another one with similar profile who is available;

Candidate list is quite short IMO. We have no way but to look for young & upcoming manager. So, there is always a element of risk associated with it. We already missed the boat on Rodgers & Martinez, saying they aren't good enough or big enough for Spurs.

Lets not make the same mistake again.

AVB lost the boardroom & looked to have lost the appetite in 2nd year; On other hand, Sherwood lost the senior players in the dressing room. Both made huge mistakes.

Pochettino IMO is a perfect candidate

PROs :

i) PL experience ✓
ii) Player management - both in Espanyol & Southampton, his players adored him ✓
iii) Work under DoF model ✓
iv) Play attacking football ✓
v) Set the team up well defensively ✓
vi) Develop & nuture academy players ✓
vii) Punch above the weight ✓
viii) Talk no nonsense to media ✓✓

CONs:

i) Has not got a eye for a player - buys of Osvaldo & Wanyama didnt work out
ii) Has not won anything

To me, his pros outweigh the cons;
Also, am least bothered about the 2nd because we need to see his achievements in the context. No one expected Southampton to be in Europe; infact not many thought they would survive in PL, when he took over from Nigel Adkins; A top 8 finish is commendable given the number of young players he gave chance & played;

The first one is a concern, but if he could work with Baldini or Bloomfield, I am sure it can be taken care of.

A few more for the 'con' section:

Zero wins gained when losing a game - shows a lack of ability to change the course of a game when things aren't going well.

Southampton managed to score less goals than goal-shy Spurs this season.

Not a big enough name to persuade players to stay or join.

Never managed a team with expectations of success.

Won't establish a rapport with the fans if speaking via a translator.
 
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