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SpurSince57

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IF we were in for him, the likely hood is that it would just be between us and Fiorentina. Man Utd now have Shaw, Chelsea are getting Felipe Luis and Liverpool have a few other LB's that they are going for ahead of him. Also, Fiorentina won't go over 15m Euro's.

That's why I said three. Are Liverpool going for cheaper LBs?

If we're going for Davies, Pochettino must have given it the OK. Either he knows what he's about or he doesn't.
 

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That's why I said three. Are Liverpool going for cheaper LBs?

If we're going for Davies, Pochettino must have given it the OK. Either he knows what he's about or he doesn't.
So who are the three then if Man Utd and Chelsea are out of the running?

I think Liverpool are going for cheaper LB's considering Seville wanted 20m pounds for Moreno and Liverpool ended negotiations when they realised they wouldn't budge.

With our "committee" who know's who has or hasn't agree to the signing. If he has, they he is just going for an extra squad member considering he hasn't had chance to look at the squad yet.
 

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Rodriguez would be my first choice all day long but after having a good world cup I just can't see us getting him no matter the fee. Its the competition we'll face. Good full backs are very desirable commodities in the modern game.

Not a chance they won't be flooded with interest for him.
 

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So who are the three then if Man Utd and Chelsea are out of the running?

I think Liverpool are going for cheaper LB's considering Seville wanted 20m pounds for Moreno and Liverpool ended negotiations when they realised they wouldn't budge.

With our "committee" who know's who has or hasn't agree to the signing. If he has, they he is just going for an extra squad member considering he hasn't had chance to look at the squad yet.

I should have said two, as I hadn't realised Chelsea had another target. But why did you mention United?

It's always been the way that the manager has the final say.

If Pochettino hasn't had a chance to look at the squad yet, why are we hearing that Dawson is on the market?
 

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I should have said two, as I hadn't realised Chelsea had another target. But why did you mention United?

It's always been the way that the manager has the final say.

If Pochettino hasn't had a chance to look at the squad yet, why are we hearing that Dawson is on the market?

There's almost a decade of data of Dawson in the Premier League to fall back on. Its not like he's an unknown quantity.
 

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I should have said two, as I hadn't realised Chelsea had another target. But why did you mention United?

It's always been the way that the manager has the final say.

If Pochettino hasn't had a chance to look at the squad yet, why are we hearing that Dawson is on the market?
I mentioned Man Utd as they were one of the teams linked with him before they signed Shaw.

Dawson is 30 so unlikely to improve. It could also be a decision made by the Levy, Baldini whoever to cash in given his age and 2 years lefy on his contract. Likewise with Livermore, I imagine an offer of 8m for a player that is down the pecking order for a position that, not only is over flowing with 1st team squad members but also we have a few prospects in the youth teams that play there was too good to turn down.
 

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He's not particularly good, strange pick up by Liverpool, probably just for depth in the development squads, won't make it in the premier league and our decision to release him was fine.

Good for their Development squad, maybe even a domestic cup - probably shows we have better players coming out of our acdemy than they do.

Reason I'd be keen to have kept him for another seasoon at Spurs is that we are short of defender bodies in development squad - but I guess that Veljkovicor Fryers will be the cover for the CB position if we need to utilise a development player in easier first team games.

I don't know what you think SI, but Stewart looked a better player as a CB to me than Fryers has.
 

eViL

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Neither is Kaboul.

I'm missing your point. The only data we're working off at the moment is ITK and paper talk. Until someone actually goes or starts the season.. what difference does it make?
 

SpurSince57

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I'm missing your point. The only data we're working off at the moment is ITK and paper talk. Until someone actually goes or starts the season.. what difference does it make?

That was my point; a lot of ITK suggests what's common sense—that Pochettino wants to have a good look at the squad before making any decisions on outs. To me, that doesn't mean 'data', that means looking at players on the training field. That's why, with all due respect to Grey Fox, I don't believe that we're looking to offload him right at the present, particularly as it seems we're a long way from signing a replacement.
 

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IF we were in for him, the likely hood is that it would just be between us and Fiorentina. Man Utd now have Shaw, Chelsea are getting Felipe Luis and Liverpool have a few other LB's that they are going for ahead of him. Also, Fiorentina won't go over 15m Euro's.

wolfsburg don't have to sell either
 

whitelanefever

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Who is looking at Rodriguez? The only teams linked are Us, Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea & Fiorentina. The chairman/president (whatever his title is) or Wolfsburg has already said the will accept 25m euros (just under 20m pounds), so he will go for less than that with negotiations (I would guess around 18m).
Roma, Inter, Monaco & Real Madrid have shown interest & I wouldn't be surprised if Dortmund moved for him but not at price quoted, Juventus pulled out of negotiations over his price. I think the reason no PL club has moved for him is because usually English clubs are given higher price quotes than teams from other leagues because of the amount of money flying around PL, either that or there's something in his medical records or personal life that has put them off.
 

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Roma, Inter, Monaco & Real Madrid have shown interest & I wouldn't be surprised if Dortmund moved for him but not at price quoted, Juventus pulled out of negotiations over his price. I think the reason no PL club has moved for him is because usually English clubs are given higher price quotes than teams from other leagues because of the amount of money flying around PL, either that or there's something in his medical records or personal life that has put them off.
I don't believe Real's interest was genuine, they have Marcelo & I don't think he would go to be second choice, Monaco have a very highly rated young french LB that had a great season, so I don't think there interest would have been real either. I don't see what Inter could offer that we couldn't (plus they have Nagatomo, who had a very good season). Roma could be a problem if there interest is real and they are willing to pay the fee.
 

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They have said they will for 25m euro's.

Are you indicating that you think Levy would pay 25m euros for a LB?

I think the guy would be a top signing but I do not believe Levy would even consider paying that kind of money for a LB, particularly one that has never played in the EPL.

I would be surprised if we spent that kind of money on any player this window.
Look at the history of our transfer windows and that should get your expectations down to a realistic level. We generally make a profit or break even, on the odd occasion we have a small £5-10m deficit.
Unless we raise some significant cash by selling Sandro for £20m+ or Soldado for ~£20m then I cannot see us signing any player for more than about £16-18m.
 

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Are you indicating that you think Levy would pay 25m euros for a LB?

I think the guy would be a top signing but I do not believe Levy would even consider paying that kind of money for a LB, particularly one that has never played in the EPL.

I would be surprised if we spent that kind of money on any player this window.
Look at the history of our transfer windows and that should get your expectations down to a realistic level. We generally make a profit or break even, on the odd occasion we have a small £5-10m deficit.
Unless we raise some significant cash by selling Sandro for £20m+ or Soldado for ~£20m then I cannot see us signing any player for more than about £16-18m.
Who knows, this time last year I would have said we wouldn't sign two players for 26m a piece. With the amount of squad players we could sell without needing to replace (or replace for a lower cost), we could easily make up the 18m to 20m it would take to get him (I think we have about 16m from the sales of Defoe and Livermore).

We have apparently upped our bid for Davies to 10m and I don't see his as player that will ever be worth more than 12-15, where as Rodriguez I could see one of the big teams coming in for him for mid to low 30's in 4-5 seasons time.
 

spurs9

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Who knows, this time last year I would have said we wouldn't sign two players for 26m a piece. With the amount of squad players we could sell without needing to replace (or replace for a lower cost), we could easily make up the 18m to 20m it would take to get him (I think we have about 16m from the sales of Defoe and Livermore).

We have apparently upped our bid for Davies to 10m and I don't see his as player that will ever be worth more than 12-15, where as Rodriguez I could see one of the big teams coming in for him for mid to low 30's in 4-5 seasons time.

Edit: also, 25m Euro's his the starting "media" price, Imagine after negotiations it would be less than that.
 
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