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allpaths

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So has Kyle Naughton. On the left, he's looking to cut in on his right foot. Playing a back 3, we need the wing backs to get up the flanks and create width. He won't be doing that.
He'd give us more width then Davies. His mobility is more important then the foot he prefers. Don't think he'd hurt us and would be well worth giving a chance to.
 

DJS

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Love it reading the article and seeing how he says he's a Spurs fan!

They give you more, just look at Winks coming through as an example and of course Kane.

And article says he's equally as comfortable on left, just sayin'... :whistle:
 

allpaths

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He's always looking to get on his right foot. Not seeing it myself.

https://streamable.com/5h4h
what u didn't see his rampaging runs in the second half down the left, I dont know how anybody can watch that clip and not be impressed with kwp. He's mobility is what is important he has the physical ability to run up and down the flank at pace something Trippier and Davies cannot do as effectively. He cuts in a lot in youth game because that is his role in the side, since he's one of the best players in the side with the ball at he's feet. I'm sure if he's ever gets a first team game he'd be much more disciplined in his role and would stay wider. KWP is a very intelligent player and would do what poch tells him. Great clipped that's really full of vintage KWP moments.
 

spursfan77

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what u didn't see his rampaging runs in the second half down the left, I dont know how anybody can watch that clip and not be impressed with kwp. He's mobility is what is important he has the physical ability to run up and down the flank at pace something Trippier and Davies cannot do as effectively. He cuts in a lot in youth game because that is his role in the side, since he's one of the best players in the side with the ball at he's feet. I'm sure if he's ever gets a first team game he'd be much more disciplined in his role and would stay wider. KWP is a very intelligent player and would do what poch tells him. Great clipped that's really full of vintage KWP moments.

At least he'd still fulfil the Rose role with a bit more pace and purpose than Davies whilst still letting us keep the wingback formation. Id at least like us to give it a try over the next week or so for a period in one of the games. If it doesn't work then Davies can be brought on.

The only problem I see is Davies. It will be a bit of a kick in the teeth for him.
 

allpaths

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At least he'd still fulfil the Rose role with a bit more pace and purpose than Davies whilst still letting us keep the wingback formation. Id at least like us to give it a try over the next week or so for a period in one of the games. If it doesn't work then Davies can be brought on.

The only problem I see is Davies. It will be a bit of a kick in the teeth for him.
It would be tough on Ben but there is still a lot of games for him to play in before rose returns and he should understand the combination of his poor performances and the fact the club is trying to fully understand what kwp is about he should be able to accept a bit of a one off situation.
 

Shadydan

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You want to throw a young player who hasn't played for the first team once and play him on his weaker side, great no pressure at all.

I'd be very surprised if Poch does that.
 

allpaths

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You want to throw a young player who hasn't played for the first team once and play him on his weaker side, great no pressure at all.

I'd be very surprised if Poch does that.
First of all Gent are a pretty bad side if we take the tie serious we should walk no matter who plays on the left. I want to surround him with the likes of toby, dembele, Eriksen, Alli, and Kane I want to put a strong side out to kill the tie right away. If Kwp can't handle playing in that side against Gent in Europa then we might as well sell him now. It would be less pressure than starting him at home or away at Fulham. If we want to progress deep in the cups we need to be able to find as many useful players as possible, I'm an advocate of putting out as strong sides as possible, no whole sale changes and at least 5,6 first team regulars in all matches going forward, but we need still make our squad stretch as far as possible and i think KWP can add to it.

That's my opinion, not my opinion of what poch will do and if we play a back 4 (which I think we will) then I want Davies at LB, it's not some outlandish idea, just a potential possibility.
 

Shadydan

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First of all Gent are a pretty bad side if we take the tie serious we should walk no matter who plays on the left. I want to surround him with the likes of toby, dembele, Eriksen, Alli, and Kane I want to put a strong side out to kill the tie right away. If Kwp can't handle playing in that side against Gent in Europa then we might as well sell him now. It would be less pressure than starting him at home or away at Fulham. If we want to progress deep in the cups we need to be able to find as many useful players as possible, I'm an advocate of putting out as strong sides as possible, no whole sale changes and at least 5,6 first team regulars in all matches going forward, but we need still make our squad stretch as far as possible and i think KWP can add to it.

That's my opinion, not my opinion of what poch will do and if we play a back 4 (which I think we will) then I want Davies at LB, it's not some outlandish idea, just a potential possibility.

If KWP making his first full team debut in the CL plays absolute shit on his weaker side we should sell him? :confused:

If Gent are as bad as you say they are what's wrong with playing Ben Davies out there?
 

allpaths

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If KWP making his first full team debut in the CL plays absolute shit on his weaker side we should sell him? :confused:

If Gent are as bad as you say they are what's wrong with playing Ben Davies out there?
that's not what i said, i meant if kwp isnt even good enough to be trusted to play against gent because we are afraid of how he would handle the occasion, then id sell him.

There's nothing wrong with playing ben and like i said in a back 4 id prefer him to play. But if we play a wingback system with a back 3, we know that that system doesnt suit ben and id like to see what kwp could do in the system instead. it's not that complicated to understand.
 

Shadydan

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that's not what i said, i meant if kwp isnt even good enough to be trusted to play against gent because we are afraid of how he would handle the occasion, then id sell him.

There's nothing wrong with playing ben and like i said in a back 4 id prefer him to play. But if we play a wingback system with a back 3, we know that that system doesnt suit ben and id like to see what kwp could do in the system instead. it's not that complicated to understand.

It's not complicated at all, I just disagree :)

That's pretty much the same thing, and by all accounts KWP most probably won't be trusted to play against Gent, I don't see the club selling him somehow and I think that Poch would probably use Davies in a wing back system then play KWP. How about we just let KWP feel his way into the team naturally like Winks and not force him in positions he's not 100% comfortable with, might work on FIFA, not in the real world.
 

allpaths

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It's not complicated at all, I just disagree :)

That's pretty much the same thing, and by all accounts KWP most probably won't be trusted to play against Gent, I don't see the club selling him somehow and I think that Poch would probably use Davies in a wing back system then play KWP. How about we just let KWP feel his way into the team naturally like Winks and not force him in positions he's not 100% comfortable with, might work on FIFA, not in the real world.
no it's not the same, one would be never rating him at all, and the other is throwing him under a bus after a poor performance. I dont think it would happen because i think we'll play a back 4 anyways. I think KWP has felt his way into the team that's why he got the contract extension, and while KWP is much better on the right he still very good on the left and is more comfortable in a back 3 then Davies is.
Real life is about taking chances, just like when poch gave mason his pl debut against arsenal ,the team need a boost especially from the left and sometimes we need to be brave and try something different and expeiremental.

And i don't mind that you disagree, it's just seems that there is a tendency for us to misinterpret one another, probably for a variety of reasons (mostly my own fault), but it causes some frustration to have to repeat myself.
 

spurs9

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You want to throw a young player who hasn't played for the first team once and play him on his weaker side, great no pressure at all.

I'd be very surprised if Poch does that.
I agree with you but that being said, Poch has played Onomah out of position every time he has played him and KWP is more of a natural LB than Onomah is a winger.
 

archiewasking

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I'd expect him to get some FA cup/Europa League game time and if he does well he'll take Trippier's place on the bench in league games. I'd expect Trippier to be moved on in the Summer.

Would like him to get game time, but don't want to sell Trippier. I still think he's a good, experienced squad player. KWP needs to be developed at the right pace, not thrown to the lions if Walker picks up a long term injury.
 

UpTownSpur

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Would like him to get game time, but don't want to sell Trippier. I still think he's a good, experienced squad player. KWP needs to be developed at the right pace, not thrown to the lions if Walker picks up a long term injury.

Two seasons is long enough to spend as a squad player - after that it's time for a player to move on and become a starter somewhere else. It's better for them and the club.
 
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