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King of Otters

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Well, that's for him to decide. Realistic or not, if it's attractive to him who is anyone else to say he shouldn't do it.

Obviously neither of us know his actual motivations, I'm just arguing against the assumptions that you've made on why he might take the job. Given the current state of the squad, it's unrealistic for anyone to return Everton to their former glory in the short term, particularly a globetrotting 60 year old who only sticks around for a couple of years before moving onto to the next job.
 

tiger666

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Obviously neither of us know his actual motivations, I'm just arguing against the assumptions that you've made on why he might take the job. Given the current state of the squad, it's unrealistic for anyone to return Everton to their former glory in the short term, particularly a globetrotting 60 year old who only sticks around for a couple of years before moving onto to the next job.

Ok maybe returning them to one of the biggest clubs in the land is a bit optimistic but just getting them back to one of the best sides outside the top six is still a challenge.
 

King of Otters

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Ok maybe returning them to one of the biggest clubs in the land is a bit optimistic but just getting them back to one of the best sides outside the top six is still a challenge.

That I would agree with. Everton should be more than capable of being the best of the rest in the short term, particularly given the state of league beyond the top 6/7 clubs.
 

Danners9

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How realistic is that though? They're miles off the top 6/7 atm. Squad is massively unbalanced, and the money they've spent so far hasn't positively impacted squad quality or league position.

It's a risk an established manager like Ancelloti doesn't need to take, imo.

Would be a great opportunity for someone like Howe though, if Everton want him.
I see it the same way - Everton should go for a project manager, like Howe or Potter at Brighton, someone like that. But it's mid-season and neither are going to be available.

Past appointments haven't been great, nor has the spending really worked out, so you'd think they need someone with a clear vision for the club and I wouldn't think that is Ancelotti, but at the same time it doesn't really have to be right now. 16th in the league and if he can get them higher by the end of the season, let's say 10th, and into the next season aiming for 6/7th, it would set them up for a longer-term appointment.

The post above this (if it still is) suggesting a 4yr deal and in the top 3 earners shows why he'd go for it so soon after a disappointing end to his Napoli run and he has a good enough reputation for Everton to see it as a great appointment. You wouldn't expect him to see out those 4yrs judging by the lifespans of most managers, but it's still a great job for him to take - financially, and the only real failure would be to get relegated.
 

C0YS

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IMO it should be the other way round. Arteta to Everton, let him build a project, at the moment it is a low pressure job as they are shit and can only get better.

Ancelotti to Arsenal, proven manager and the best hope they have of a top 4 push. Bring a project manager in next season if needed.

But rumours are the players at Arsenal don't want Arteta, meanwhile in Everton they are signing a manager with literally no experience whatsoever of a club in Everton's position. The only club who wasn't 'a big name' that he has ever managed is Reggiana, who got promoted from serie B. So he really isn't a logical choice for the circumstances.
 

King of Otters

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IMO it should be the other way round. Arteta to Everton, let him build a project, at the moment it is a low pressure job as they are shit and can only get better.

Ancelotti to Arsenal, proven manager and the best hope they have of a top 4 push. Bring a project manager in next season if needed.

But rumours are the players at Arsenal don't want Arteta, meanwhile in Everton they are signing a manager with literally no experience whatsoever of a club in Everton's position. The only club who wasn't 'a big name' that he has ever managed is Reggiana, who got promoted from serie B. So he really isn't a logical choice for the circumstances.

Where's this come from?
 

philll

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Merson doesn't want Arteta, maybe they missed "ex-" off the front of "players" to make it a bit spicier.
 

glacierSpurs

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Just one month between us sacking Poch and the rest following after, but our timing and planning were almost perfect and spot on. It will be so risky for many free agent managers to take on the roles now being so close to the new year.

Makes me appreciate the operative running of the club even more TBH.
 

RichieS

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Just one month between us sacking Poch and the rest following after, but our timing and planning were almost perfect and spot on. It will be so risky for many free agent managers to take on the roles now being so close to the new year.

Makes me appreciate the operative running of the club even more TBH.
Nah, #Levyout.
 

McFlash

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When are Everton planning on building their new stadium?
Isn't that supposed to be in the next couple of years?
I think taking a prem club, with potential, into a new stadium and new era is something that would appeal to most managers. Ok, the paycheque will help but the prospect of being able to write your name into an old clubs history, is gonna be quite a pull.
 

Marty

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When are Everton planning on building their new stadium?
Isn't that supposed to be in the next couple of years?
I think taking a prem club, with potential, into a new stadium and new era is something that would appeal to most managers. Ok, the paycheque will help but the prospect of being able to write your name into an old clubs history, is gonna be quite a pull.
Summer 2023 is the estimate.
 

McFlash

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Summer 2023 is the estimate.
Ah, so doubtful Ancelotti (if he does go there) will still be there by then.
Based on nothing other than the fact that very few managers last for 5 years or so.
Maybe Arteta can go there then, to rebuild the career he destroyed by going to Arsenal!
 

Misfit

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It's being reported in several places but what I can see it's "according to reports" whatever that means.

Might be a rehash of a story that Arsenal players didn't want "the arrogant" Arteta to take over after Wenger.
They don't want him cramping their style.
 

spursfan77

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I’m happy for Everton if they get ancelotti. It must be hell for their fans living in that city with the other lot!
 

nailsy

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Am excellent appointment by Everton. You wouldn't have expected that when Silva left.
 
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