The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Deleted member 27995]

I don't know what you want? You say pundits don't give poch his due then are upset when they say he is the best option for utd?

The double standard that does exist annoys me.

Poch is now the outstanding candidate for Utd yet he hasn't won anything - something that seems to be a prerequisite to be classed as a top top manager among those in all forms of media ... I just don't follow.

Like I said, it's farcical.

 

[Mark_147]

Levy cannot afford to let Poch go.



The backlash would hurt Levy as our sponsors will be queing up to try to terminate deals and the naming rights for the stadium will drop by at least 50%.

The fact that Manure are willing to sacrifice this season totally by not appointing a long term manager despite the availability of people like Zidane can only mean one thing. They're hell-bent on getting Poch in the summer. We'll have to see what Levy does between now and then.

Maybe the reason why they we're prepared to sacrifice their season was because they have been shit and decided the time was right for a change. They have lost a third of their share value since August, and Mourinho's sacking has seen a rise of £120m since yesterday.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...s/manchester-united-jose-share-price-15569866

 

[Lilbaz]

The double standard that does exist annoys me.

Poch is now the outstanding candidate for Utd yet he hasn't won anything - something that seems to be a prerequisite to be classed as a top top manager among those in all forms of media ... I just don't follow.

Like I said, it's farcical.

Neville has been gushing about poch for ages as have other pundits. But he hasn't won anything neither have spurs in 10 years.

The pundits don't say anytthing that spurs fans on this site don't say all the time. The difference is that because they aren't spurs fans then our fans get offended when they say anything slightly negative. They see agendas everywhere.

Try and take it as a compliment that our manager is being linked with two of the biggest jobs in football. I'd rather that than them talking of whether he should be sacked. It means we are doing something right.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Neville has been gushing about poch for ages as have other pundits. But he hasn't won anything neither have spurs in 10 years.

The pundits don't say anytthing that spurs fans on this site don't say all the time. The difference is that because they aren't spurs fans then our fans get offended when they say anything slightly negative. They see agendas everywhere.

Try and take it as a compliment that our manager is being linked with two of the biggest jobs in football. I'd rather that than them talking of whether he should be sacked. It means we are doing something right.

No issue with Madrid, I thought he might be off last summer when it was at its peak. It made some sense but there were holes that could be picked with the timing of it all, and the same goes for now.

Not interested in taking things as compliments because other teams cast admiring looks at our best players and manager, as far as I am concerned they can all fuck off.

This life, all so fucking nicey nicey, good grief.

 

[wrd]

This is slowly turning into the ITK thread of last summer, just all random theories, Poch is here for next six months, we shouldnt spend all this time getting agg about nonsense.

 

[Lilbaz]

No issue with Madrid, I thought he might be off last summer when it was at its peak. It made some sense but there were holes that could be picked with the timing of it all, and the same goes for now.

Not interested in taking things as compliments because other teams cast admiring looks at our best players and manager, as far as I am concerned they can all fuck off.

This life, all so fucking nicey nicey, good grief.

Not about nicey nicey. It's just not worth getting wound up over it. What will happen will happen and none of the pundits talk will effect the outcome either way.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Not about nicey nicey. It's just not worth getting wound up over it. What will happen will happen and none of the pundits talk will effect the outcome either way.

Okeydokey!

You're totally right, it's going to be a shit fest on any sports site or rear of newspaper anyway. I'll pretend it's not happening until the summer!

 

[Cruyff]

If Poch does leave, will Levy be kicking himself that he didn't spend big in the last transfer window? Would one or two signings make the situation different now (or at the end of the season), in terms of slightly altering Poch's thinking and tipping things in our (Spurs') favour?

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

The funny thing is, if Pochettino's name was nowhere near being considered for the United job you can bet both your bollocks that there would be people in here moaning about his not being in the frame as agenda and anti Spurs bias.

There actually really would

 

[wrd]

Also if you want some reassurance, check out the debate with neville and just watch him stutter yes yes yes yes, trying to convince himself that united is a club that nobody can turn down.

 

[yiddopaul]

ManU is becoming like RM. bit of a poison chalice. I’d he didn’t win anything with them after a couple of years (absolutely no guaranty he would), then he’d be out. With us, he is doing what he ‘allegedly’ said he wants to do, build an empire with us. We are moving in the right direction. If he ups and leaves, then I will be disappointed as he’s not as honest as I thought. (A very big if. I personally think he’s with us for many more years to come)

 

[dtxspurs]

ManU is becoming like RM. bit of a poison chalice. I’d he didn’t win anything with them after a couple of years (absolutely no guaranty he would), then he’d be out. With us, he is doing what he ‘allegedly’ said he wants to do, build an empire with us. We are moving in the right direction. If he ups and leaves, then I will be disappointed as he’s not as honest as I thought. (A very big if. I personally think he’s with us for many more years to come)

I think ManU would stick with a manager if they saw things were trending in the right direction. Thing is all these managers take one step forward and two backwards. It's not like they've been firing these managers for no reason.

 

[wrd]

Another bit on the Neville debate video was he was suggesting that nobody who isn't already at a top club in the world could turn down United. However when it was put to him about being a director he said he wouldn't want it (partly due to feeling not good enough I'll admit) because he is enjoying what he is building at Salford. Well hang on I thought nobody could turn down United?

 

[dagraham]

Key question is whether Poch is willing to see us through this period where finances are tight. He’s obviously doing a balancing act and I kind of get the impression he gets a kick out of the challenge.

However I think this may go on for a couple of seasons yet, so it depends on how much patience he has and perhaps more importantly, how confident is he that when we come out of the other side he is going to be eventually backed in the transfer market.

I personally don’t think what goes on during the Jan transfer window will make any difference.

 

[HarryKane]

Think people are burying their head in the sand if they can't see why the Man U job would be attractive and there's absolutely 0 chance of it happening, take the Spurs tinted glasses off. If Klopp were linked to RM/Barca people would be talking about delusional Liverpool fans if they had similar trains of thought on here to some about Poch to Man U. Yes it's a far from perfect opportunity, yes he's in a good place here, yes the difference isn't close to what it was 10 years ago but he's very ambitious and clearly wants to regularly win titles. They have a squad that's been playing less than the sum of its parts under Mourinho and with a near limitless budget he can get what he wants which is not exactly the case here.

 

[Metalhead]

Think people are burying their head in the sand if they can't see why the Man U job would be attractive and there's absolutely 0 chance of it happening, take the Spurs tinted glasses off. If Klopp were linked to RM/Barca people would be talking about delusional Liverpool fans if they had similar trains of thought on here to some about Poch to Man U. Yes it's a far from perfect opportunity, yes he's in a good place here, yes the difference isn't close to what it was 10 years ago but he's very ambitious and clearly wants to regularly win titles. They have a squad that's been playing less than the sum of its parts under Mourinho and with a near limitless budget he can get what he wants which is not exactly the case here.

You're right, it is a possibility.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Also if you want some reassurance, check out the debate with neville and just watch him stutter yes yes yes yes, trying to convince himself that united is a club that nobody can turn down.

Neville might like Poch but he doesn't think much of Spurs. What did Neville say recently about Spurs being utter rubbish for the last thirty years that has upset Harry? just heard a snippet on the radio this morning but know nothing else

 

[SpursDave88]

Neville might like Poch but he doesn't think much of Spurs. What did Neville say recently about Spurs being utter rubbish for the last thirty years that has upset Harry? just heard a snippet on the radio this morning but know nothing else

Fact is we have won nothing of note since 1991 - in Nevilles playing days we were mostly near the bottom of the table whilst he was part of an all conquering Utd side. What do you expect him to say about us?

 

[stormfly]

Has anyone on here read Poch’s book ‘A brave new world’? It’s a great insight into the man himself where he talks about loyalty and his great relationship with Levy. There is also a part where he says he would rather play youth players than buy players that may not necessarily fit into the team’s ethos. Paints a picture of a man that has a huge respect for the club and has morals. If he leaves it’ll be because Levy is happy to let him leave I can’t see him pushing for a move.

 

[wrd]

Think people are burying their head in the sand if they can't see why the Man U job would be attractive and there's absolutely 0 chance of it happening, take the Spurs tinted glasses off. If Klopp were linked to RM/Barca people would be talking about delusional Liverpool fans if they had similar trains of thought on here to some about Poch to Man U. Yes it's a far from perfect opportunity, yes he's in a good place here, yes the difference isn't close to what it was 10 years ago but he's very ambitious and clearly wants to regularly win titles. They have a squad that's been playing less than the sum of its parts under Mourinho and with a near limitless budget he can get what he wants which is not exactly the case here.

What irritates me is this constant argument of ambition, because the way I see it what Poch and what Kane are trying to achieve is far far more ambitious than these managers who leave to join big clubs and get their trophy and survive for 4/5 years. Okay Poch could go to United and he wins the title and he will be considered a top manager. However if he stays at spurs and he wins the league, he turns spurs into a dynasty the way Fergie did with United, the way Wenger did at Arsenal then he becomes one of the legendary managers of the game. I believe Poch staying with spurs and trying to turn us into a behemoth is showing more ambition. People can say ooo but resources and backing, fuck me we have the best stadium in europe coming in a month. We have the best training facilities arguably in the world already. People put a limit in their own heads on what can be achieved (not the person I quoted, I'm talking generally) based on what has already happened, they can't envisage a scenario which doesn't go with what they've experienced with the last 20 years.

I'm adamant that Poch and also Kane do not put a ceiling on what they can achieve with spurs and my opinion is in the next 15-20 we will be the next big club because of these people. It's time we as fans stopped being shackled in our beliefs of what this club can go on to do and start believing in our club. Of course there is a chance that he can go United, I'm putting my money that he doesn't. If he goes to United he will be joining the Contes, the Pellergrinis who turn up, win a title where it's expected and are slowly forgotten about. Poch stays here and achieves something and he's up there with Jose, Pep, Fergie and Cruyff imo.