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shelfboy68

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We don't actually know this for a fact.

You think he'll be here beyond this season? Perhaps the problem isn't that we have a bang average squad, but a bang average coach.

Of course poch is average only one good season at Southampton and not a good time previous to that at espanyol.
He was employed mainly because he is willing to toe the company line and play second fiddle to levy and co in most aspects of club life and experienced manager probably would have to levy to Fuck off.
Since Harry left levy has been looking for someone preferably a young coach to promote youth and not ask for too much from the board to spend thus allowing stadium build eventually.
How long do you believe poch will last seeing as he signed a five year contract.
 

spursbri111

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Of course poch is average only one good season at Southampton and not a good time previous to that at espanyol.
He was employed mainly because he is willing to toe the company line and play second fiddle to levy and co in most aspects of club life and experienced manager probably would have to levy to Fuck off.
Since Harry left levy has been looking for someone preferably a young coach to promote youth and not ask for too much from the board to spend thus allowing stadium build eventually.
How long do you believe poch will last seeing as he signed a five year contract.
just want to keep a manager for long term. If its poch so be it. Let him get HIS players and see where he takes us. If you stand by a manager through bad times more often than not its work out. Look at newcastle and even west ham for gods sake.
 

shelfboy68

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just want to keep a manager for long term. If its poch so be it. Let him get HIS players and see where he takes us. If you stand by a manager through bad times more often than not its work out. Look at newcastle and even west ham for gods sake.

Yes agree with have to keep a manager for more than a year but i dont think poch is that good i believe a better manager would be getting more out of us but thats just my opinion.
 

JohannTHFC

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Yes agree with have to keep a manager for more than a year but i dont think poch is that good i believe a better manager would be getting more out of us but thats just my opinion.

What else is there to get out of our current squad? Before you bring up Sherwood lets not forget how many points Adebayor was worth last season and unfortunately he's decided he's not going to bother this time around. The current team is awful and imbalanced. Money poorly spent by people who haven't a clue. It's time to let the manager bring in his own players because the current lot are absolute tripe.
 

Oscar22

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When we lose at home to Stoke and Newcastle, and draw by the skin of our teeth with Palace. What on earth do people think we're going to achieve in the champions league at this moment in time?

We lose to Stoke.. how well do people think we will fare against PSG and Barcelona?!
 

SpurSince57

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What else is there to get out of our current squad? Before you bring up Sherwood lets not forget how many points Adebayor was worth last season and unfortunately he's decided he's not going to bother this time around. The current team is awful and imbalanced. Money poorly spent by people who haven't a clue. It's time to let the manager bring in his own players because the current lot are absolute tripe.

Has he told you this?

Baldini and Villas-Boas? You could be right! (Sorry, what was that about the manager bringing in his own players?)
 

shelfboy68

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What else is there to get out of our current squad? Before you bring up Sherwood lets not forget how many points Adebayor was worth last season and unfortunately he's decided he's not going to bother this time around. The current team is awful and imbalanced. Money poorly spent by people who haven't a clue. It's time to let the manager bring in his own players because the current lot are absolute tripe.

Wasnt going to mention sherwood i just felt we needed more experienced hand.
 

BK007

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How are we 6 points behind West Ham United 15 games into the season.

The fact that they look more apt at football than us should really put our fans in their place about expectations, but also, what is going on?

The players who did well for two games regressed during the Palace match. It's hard to tell who is at fault.
 

tototoner

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Still a long way to go, everyone was predicting Chelsea would walk the league but they have dropped 5 points in the last week.

I personally still think we have more chance of finishing in the top 4 than winning the Europa League and the bookies agree

8/1 to finish in the top 4
12/1 to win the Europa League
 

BK007

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Still a long way to go, everyone was predicting Chelsea would walk the league but they have dropped 5 points in the last week.

I personally still think we have more chance of finishing in the top 4 than winning the Europa League and the bookies agree

8/1 to finish in the top 4
12/1 to win the Europa League

That comparison tells us nothing though.

The only reason we're still in it is because Liverpool, Everton and Arsenal have been so shit as well.

MU might be getting their act together, and even then, we still have to overhaul Southampton, West Ham, Swansea and Newcastle. Yeah, they aren't traditionally strong teams, and there's still a lot of the season to go, but right now they are all still picking up points.

There could be 8 teams fighting for 1 spot, and if we don't get our act together, we need to rely on not just Southampton and Swansea screwing up, but 5 other teams. That's foolish.
 

JohannTHFC

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Has he told you this?

Baldini and Villas-Boas? You could be right! (Sorry, what was that about the manager bringing in his own players?)

Have you seen him play this season? If so how could you say he's looked like he cares? I don't have to speek to him to see a clear lack of effort.

Theres clearly something massively wrong with our transfer policy if we are paying £17m for Paulinho, £30m for Lamela and £25m for Soldado. Most of the 7 we signed that Summer weren't getting game time throughout that season which would tell me that the manager didn't want them. If we were truly backing our managers we would have bought Moutinho in 2012 and Schneiderlin this Summer.
 

spursbri111

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Still a long way to go, everyone was predicting Chelsea would walk the league but they have dropped 5 points in the last week.

I personally still think we have more chance of finishing in the top 4 than winning the Europa League and the bookies agree

8/1 to finish in the top 4
12/1 to win the Europa League
I would like to use this season as a(nother) write off. just try to get a trophy and forget top 4. IF we cant beat stoke and WBA at home we should nt be thinking top 4 anyway. League cup or FA cup can be a real possibility if we play strong teams in them
 

shelfboy68

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Still a long way to go, everyone was predicting Chelsea would walk the league but they have dropped 5 points in the last week.

I personally still think we have more chance of finishing in the top 4 than winning the Europa League and the bookies agree

8/1 to finish in the top 4
12/1 to win the Europa League

Funnily enough the only team they got maximum points from was us how suprising is that.
 

76spurs

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That comparison tells us nothing though.

The only reason we're still in it is because Liverpool, Everton and Arsenal have been so shit as well.

MU might be getting their act together, and even then, we still have to overhaul Southampton, West Ham, Swansea and Newcastle. Yeah, they aren't traditionally strong teams, and there's still a lot of the season to go, but right now they are all still picking up points.

There could be 8 teams fighting for 1 spot, and if we don't get our act together, we need to rely on not just Southampton and Swansea screwing up, but 5 other teams. That's foolish.

TBH with all these teams you can see that they will turn the corner and improve. For Spurs they haven't really shown much consistency this season.They have lost a combined 11-2 four teams you expect to be fighting for top four. It is time for a reality check. We have to get back to basics in the league and start to pick up some results and consistency.
 

SpurSince57

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Have you seen him play this season? If so how could you say he's looked like he cares? I don't have to speek to him to see a clear lack of effort.

Theres clearly something massively wrong with our transfer policy if we are paying £17m for Paulinho, £30m for Lamela and £25m for Soldado. Most of the 7 we signed that Summer weren't getting game time throughout that season which would tell me that the manager didn't want them. If we were truly backing our managers we would have bought Moutinho in 2012 and Schneiderlin this Summer.

Oh, so sorry. I had no idea you were a qualified expert in interpreting body language. Clearly there's something wrong, but I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to make a categorical statement as to what it is.

Weren't you suggesting that we should sign players our managers wanted? Because we've had it from Jason Burt, Villas-Boas' very best pal in the media, that he wanted those three and Capoue, so I'd say he has to bear a fair chunk of the blame—particularly for Soldado's failure.

As no-one has any real idea of what screwed up the Moutinho deal (maybe having more than four days to sort it out would have helped), just how the fuck can you say what we should or should not have done? And Southampton made it plain that Schneiderlin wasn't for sale at any price. Not too difficult to understand, is it?

Instead, we signed Stambouli, a player Pochettino wanted, according to ITK, and that Bielsa certainly did. Why hasn't Pochettino played him in the league? Answers on a postcard.
 

zepstar

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when you consider we weren't even that far off the pace last season with tim sherwood in charge then that's a little galling to read, maybe you're right in that we need to go backwards to go forwards but is levy really going to accept that? i doubt it personally.

You're right. Ultimately, Daniel Levy needs to protect the investment, and I'm sure if results start to directly impact on the club financially, then he'll see his way to sacking Pochettino too.

But, I get the sense - and it's nothing more than a sense - that Levy is prepared to put up with a long malaise this time in order for us to get better, for the coach to implement his ideas and his players. I might be wrong, but I'm hoping I'm not.
 

zepstar

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We don't actually know this for a fact.

You think he'll be here beyond this season? Perhaps the problem isn't that we have a bang average squad, but a bang average coach.

I think he'll be there past this season. As I mentioned to Blake Griffin, I get the sense that Levy is prepared to take a step back in the blind faith that Pochettino will, over the course of a couple of seasons, get a squad of his own players together who can play the game his way.

I want Poch to do well, and he seems to be working really hard to get things right. I can forgive him for poor team selections. I can forgive him for poor substitutions. I can forgive him for not knowing how the hell to get the best out of a group of players who seem destined to under-perform, week after week. Players who seem to think they are better than what they are. I can forgive him for selecting the wrong team captain. Because he's walked into an absolute mess that needs sorting out. He's making mistakes, he's learning and rectifying.

When he was appointed he was seen as a rising managerial talent in British football. The rest of the field open to us doesn't look much better, so I'm backing him. I've reluctantly accepted that part of doing that means being open to lowering my expectations to an all time low and just letting him work. Sad state of affairs, but in time things will get better.
 

alfiespurs

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Spurs top 4 ... I think West Ham have more chance - face the facts, this is the worst spurs side since the days of Austin,Edinburgh et al - I must admit- serves Daniel Levy right for getting rid of Harry - As for Baldini, please do not get me started Lamela and Soldier Boy - sums it all up... Top 7 this year and yipeeee no more boring Europa.
 

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Spurs top 4 ... I think West Ham have more chance - face the facts, this is the worst spurs side since the days of Austin,Edinburgh et al - I must admit- serves Daniel Levy right for getting rid of Harry - As for Baldini, please do not get me started Lamela and Soldier Boy - sums it all up... Top 7 this year and yipeeee no more boring Europa.
Thank you and good night!
 

Kendall

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I think United have turned a corner now and will be consistent at home. There is only one space up for grabs now.
 
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