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The Spurs Youth Thread - 2018/19

Matecheck

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May I ask if you ever watch any of our usual youth team. Or reserve /u18/23's games.

No. Never have. Bit difficult as I have spent my entire adult life (last thirty years) living/working in Germany.

I do however go quite regularly to my local team's (Eintracht Frankfurt) u17 and u19 games.
 

class of 62

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We seem to be talking about different things. I am questioning the cliché that early exposure to first team playing time can destroy a player. I doubt very much if this is true. I also find it suspicious that people will make this claim (he was good enough, but got played to early, which destroyed him) while at the same time claiming that the players who DON'T get real playing time and end up in the lower leagues were never good enough. All smacks to me of rationalizing a beloved/respected managers decisions.

You appear to be saying....what exactly? That not all youth team players make it?

Edit: sorry mate, just read this my own reply and it sounds a lot bitchier than it was meant. Genuinely not quite sure what exactly your argument is and whether we're even disagreeing about anything.
Its fine mate.. I'm. Not about to spit my dummy out.
Look at it from a fan perspective.. A lad gets a first team Chance at a very young age through talent, injuries etc.
Fans now know of this young player and expectations of the young player are automatically raised because he's debuted at what seems a higher level than his peers..thus from. A fans point of view there expecting something more than what the player can actually achieve very possibly.
I guess your cliche can go both ways in short it can either make or break and being very honest I've seen both.
 

Spurzinho

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Bostock blames his stepdad for forcing him to move to us when he didn't want to. His stepdad saw the £££ and pressured him into to signing. To be fair to him he has also been open about that fact that his attitude was far from good enough and that he wouldn't listen, wouldn't work hard and thought that he deserved opportunities on reputation alone. In his case he most certainly got too much too soon.

Phil Ifil is an interesting one. He was rated extremely highly as a youth and got to make his debut quite early (17/18) but if I remember it was because we were really short of right backs at the time. I think Stephen Kelly had gone, Stephen Carr had gone, Mauricio Tarrico had gone, Dean marney had reverted back to central midfield.etc
Ifil did okay on his debut against Liverpool, although was lucky as he committed a blatant foul in the penalty area that the ref missed, but his subsequent performances were a little lacklustre. We brought in Noe Pamarot from Nice which was a really strange recruitment decision and Ifil had to settle for being no.2. By all accounts that I've heard Phil took losing his place badly, got sulky, and never really recovered. He seemed an angry and bitter player for quite a while afterwards.

In both cases attitude player a large role in their failure to reach their potential. They absolute deserved to be handled better as well but a questionable attitude is never going to allow a player to flourish.
 

ljinko888

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Kyle Walker-Peters is seven months older than Wan-Bissaka. Makes you think doesn't it. Wan-Bissaka has done really well breaking through at Palace and is no doubt on every big club's radar...but he was given the chance to show it.
 

spursfan77

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There's a video floating around on SC somewhere about bostock and his time here. I think it was from the summer. It explains everything
 

HarryKane

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Tangential but a good point in Lingard's players' tribune piece echoing the thoughts of some here, sometimes these things take time:

"We all got different paths in this game. There’s so many things you don’t see. You know what’s so crazy to me? I was sat in that Marriott back in 2012, eating my room service chips, and I was barely getting a run out for Leicester. And in that same dressing room you had Jamie Vardy and Harry Kane, and they were going through the same struggles. We were all just trying to get a game in the Championship.

"Six years later, we’re all walking out for the World Cup semifinal, representing England.

"How do you explain that?"

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/e...promise-you-never-read-a-story-like-this-mate

Writing them off at 19-22 because they struggle getting time in the championship like Lingard can be short sighted. Obviously doesn't mean everyone will turn out great and you will have to cut your losses at times but just because they aren't dominating as young players doesn't mean they can't/won't be good enough.
 

EQP

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Well, thats the end of that :LOL:

Good luck to him, I hope at some point he earns a move to team that plays decent football.

 

Blake Griffin

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only time i've seen whittaker was last year in italy as part of an u17 group, was playing as a winger then though and was pretty small, assume he must've shot up a bit since then to now be leading the line for our u18s. he's the first u16 to make an appearance for the u18s this season.
 

Tom Hep

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Official team-sheet:
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