The Summer Transfer Window POST MORTEM THREAD

[Inq]

Honestly speechless. Feels like the club were taking the piss. Poch has done so much for us and we couldn’t make a few sacrifices to improve the team. Obviously none of us know 100% details behind the window. But I’m sure as sh*t when I say we could have sacrificed some deals just to complete another. Utter nonsense.

Truly hope pochettino isn’t as fu*ked off as I am right now. Whole thing feels like a joke

levy got out played by his own bullsh*t

 

[bryanabutler]

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[daryl hannah]

Only a bald dwarf would spend £1bn on a stadium.

Only a bald dwarf would spend £1bn on a stadium that looks like a toilet seat.

Only a bald dwarf would spend £1bn on a stadium that looks like a toilet seat and not strengthen the team.

 

[Twizzle]

Just saw Poch's interview on Sky here in Australia, he was saying its was very tough blah blah, problem is it wasn't tough for other teams who all made transfers.

He is loyal, I'll give him that.

 

[Spurzinho]

We have the best chairman in the PL.

We have the best coach in the PL.

We have the best stadium in the World.

We have the best training facility in the World.

We have the best striker in the World.

Our goalkeeper is the world cup winning captain.

Give it a rest.

If Liverpool, or Chelski or the Gooners hadn't strengthened over the summer, what would you have said? Would you have seen them as even more of a threat this season, despite everyone else around them improving their already better squads? We're moving into our iconic new stadium but without a marquee signing to herald a new beginning. We don't even have some squad freshener-uppers. What we have is what we had last season. A squad that finished 23 points off of first place. Actually we're a bit worse off this season because we over-relied on our stars last season because our squad was thin. This season our stars are coming off of a grueling summer, the likes of Dembele are a year older and more broken down, the likes of Kane, Ericksen, Alli and Lloris are a step closer to getting tired waiting for us to show some ambition to win something. Football doesn't stand still for you. If you're standing still, you're going backwards. There's no way to spin this window as anything other than a complete f*ck up. its not the end of the world but it is a f*ck up, a wasted opportunity and totally avoidable.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

For everyone going on about how much Pochettino has done for us, yeah he’s been great and I love him but come on, he’s not doing it out of the goodness of his heart, he’s doing his job, a very wonderful job that makes all of our jobs look horrible. I think he’s been brilliant and wouldn’t trade him for anyone (well, maybe Pep), but he’s paid to manage us to the best of his ability and that’s what he’s done. I’m not going to feel sorry for a guy who earns £8m a year to do a job that I’d do for enough to cover my meagre lifestyle.

 

[nailsy]

We have the best chairman in the PL.

We have the best coach in the PL.

We have the best stadium in the World.

We have the best training facility in the World.

We have the best striker in the World.

Our goalkeeper is the world cup winning captain.

Give it a rest.

Good points, but to be fair none of that has anything to do with this transfer window. In fact it makes it even more frustrating that the club has all of those positives but can't strengthen.

 

[ValenciaYid]

And to add to what Hercs said, Poch and Levy werent talking a week ago or so....i hate being negative....

 

[SpartanSpur]

We have the best chairman in the PL.

We have the best coach in the PL.

We have the best stadium in the World.

We have the best training facility in the World.

We have the best striker in the World.

Our goalkeeper is the world cup winning captain.

Give it a rest.

Don't forget the new player lodge

 

[dtxspurs]

And to add to what Hercs said, Poch and Levy werent talking a week ago or so....i hate being negative....

Haha fuck.

 

[SpartanSpur]

And to add to what Hercs said, Poch and Levy werent talking a week ago or so....i hate being negative....

Oh god

 

[BringBack_leGin]

And to add to what Hercs said, Poch and Levy werent talking a week ago or so....i hate being negative....

Well that’s truly frightening.

 

[branchie]

And to add to what Hercs said, Poch and Levy werent talking a week ago or so....i hate being negative....

Meltdown ...

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

We have the best chairman in the PL.

We have the best coach in the PL.

We have the best stadium in the World.

We have the best training facility in the World.

We have the best striker in the World.

Our goalkeeper is the world cup winning captain.

Give it a rest.

We’re also delicately light in midfield and we’ve known this for some time. And we’ve had opportunities to deal with this but we haven’t. Hardly anyone thinks that not improving the squad is a good idea. And it’s not entirely clear what’s happening with Toby yet. Even though we’ve been told by various itk the relationship between him and Poch is irreparable because of something really terrible Toby has done. None of this window makes sense.

 

[n0.1.spurs]

I'm just worried about our midfield options atm. We've got a great team with what I feel lacks a top quality CM that has the character and talent to control most of our games for this upcoming season. I would feel so much more confident going into this season on Saturday with just us making one big effort to make a signing in this position. Anything else would have been a bonus but the inability to prepare and act decisively in this window has left me bewildered and bemused.

It has also left a bitter taste of pessimism in regards to securing targets in the near future.

 

[Led Revolver]

What a piss take! If they don’t have anything to report - which they don’t, don’t say anything at all!

 

[BaryBazz]

We may have won nothing but let me tell you the last 3 years have been fantastic in terms of both team and player development. Whatever the shortcomings of Mr Levy I have enjoyed the last 3 years as much as the previous 50 !!! People have short memories and they should remember a lot of the dross we have had to previously endure. For a club like ours in the current climate we have over achieved and 3 years running in the champions league is as good as winning a trophy.

 

[sausage]

Being brave and taking risks means not signing players?

Basically. There's an entire book with the name "brave" in the title, and the word is used pretty gratuitously, but he talks about how he likes to do things:

"Sometimes club presidents and chairman appoint a coach because of his CV, but until they make a real connection, they don't truly understand what they've brought to the club. Spending so many hours together helped Daniel get closer to how we think,"

"We spoke about being more effective, about strategies, about how we can improve and become more competitive. About why I prefer to give homegrown kids chances rather than signing players, and the problems that can be caused by buying players you don't need.

"Leaving a signing on the bench is not the same as having an academy graduate as a bench-warmer."

"A chairman and a manager can only really talk football at a superficial level. But I was able to explain to him in detail how, the more defined your playing style is, the more difficult transfers become, because either a player gives you something specific you're lacking, or you're better off not signing anyone."

I can only see this as follows: Pochettino is not convinced that just 'buying players for the sake of buying players' is worthwhile. Imo, history suggests Levy loves transfer wrangles, and would probably sign 10 players each window if he could - but Poch wants quality over quantity. With that in mind, it just wouldn't surprise me if he said "If we can't sign (Zaha/Grealish/Martial), then we sign nobody", on the basis that signing a lesser player would mean less money available, and yet another player to move on in the future.

Maybe it's a combination of Poch's admiration of Fergie and his philosophies (complimenting youth academy players with one specific 'big' first-team style player each year), the book quotes about "don't sign a player unless he's worth signing (paraphrasing the above)", and the bits about preferring club-grown players (lots of quotes and behaviour patterns behind this one).


Either way, I don't think Poch is on the same wavelength as people's expectations of quantity over specific qualities. I can only imagine the plan will be to see how Zaha, Martial and Grealish get on over the next 4 months, baring in mind how much outlay is involved, then perhaps revisit in January - if required.

It's all guesswork and a bit of 1+1 with it all, but I just can't see that Levy and Poch have suddenly become different people overnight. If we're being honest with ourselves, I think we all know that Levy would have signed a few last-minute deals today if it had been 100% down to him - I can only imagine Poch has vetoed any squad fillers (and looking at what other clubs signed, there wasn't a lot of value for money going on).

That doesn't explain earlier activity, but I do think that if anyone was frustrated by today's window end, it would have been Levy. Poch would have had his moments of angst when we got sold a kipper over the 3 main (obvious) targets.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

And to add to what Hercs said, Poch and Levy werent talking a week ago or so....i hate being negative....

Jesus- what the fuck is Levy up to?

 

[synththfc]

And to add to what Hercs said, Poch and Levy werent talking a week ago or so....i hate being negative....

To think there were people who thought poch was satisfied with no signings because he made a few jokes at a pre match presser...