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Jamturk

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Reading Harrys quotes today, the most poignant thing he said for me was:

When I turned up for my meeting with Daniel Levy I didn’t know what to expect.

I was just told by the chairman that he had spoken to the owner of the club and things were changing. I wanted to stay but that’s life.

Anybody have any ideas what this means?
 

Col_M

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Attitudes?

Levy had the backing of Lewis, hence the sacking.
 

Azazello

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things were changing = prelude to being sacked.

It's standard corporate practice to preface bad news for an employee with a bland euphemism.
 

Montasura

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Reading Harrys quotes today, the most poignant thing he said for me was:

When I turned up for my meeting with Daniel Levy I didn’t know what to expect.

I was just told by the chairman that he had spoken to the owner of the club and things were changing. I wanted to stay but that’s life.

Anybody have any ideas what this means?

Sorry but I don't believe that line for one minute. To me, the hiring of Paul Stretford indicates that he knew exactly what kind of meeting he was going into and was expecting either a fight or the negotiation of a damn good compensation payment.

His other interview on the front page also flies in the face of this one. He discusses how he feels the hierarchy of Spurs never liked him. If that is what he believed then I find it highly unlikely that he did not know what to expect from a crunch meeting with the chairman about his job.

I had previously thought that we should keep him as I couldn't deny his achievements, although I thought his tactics, substitutions, and transfers somewhere between dubious and inept. but he got us 4th, 5th, 4th so probabaly deserved an extension.

After reading his interviews, though, I really have no sympathy. He says he has no bitterness....then why do they absolutely stink of bitterness??
 

Jamturk

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My thoughts are there is more to this that meets the eye, along with jjetset recent comments I think something is going down at a higher level. It would have been the easiest thing to do to come to an agreement with Harry, however protracted. The supporters would have understood by the results on the pitch. Though Harry had his detractors, what manager has'nt?

Something significant is happening, more than a revamp of football methods.
 

teok

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Just remember as much as I liked harry every thing he says is political and has some sort of agenda to it. I think he rolled in there with paul stretford (of all people) with all guns blazing and levy wasn't having any of it.

I think harry got stretford in and thought they both could bully levy into giving them a massive 4 year contract, stretford no doubt gave it the billy big bollocks as usual and it blew up in their faces.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Reading Harrys quotes today, the most poignant thing he said for me was:

When I turned up for my meeting with Daniel Levy I didn’t know what to expect.

I was just told by the chairman that he had spoken to the owner of the club and things were changing. I wanted to stay but that’s life.

Anybody have any ideas what this means?


Perhaps he meant the managers name ?
 

si_yidarmy

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It is a shame some people can't come out and give an official and ligitimate explanation to us fans....we pay their wages and if it weren't for fans this game would not exist in the capacity it does today
 

karennina

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Well, where's the upside on the financial side of our squad these days? It's been said a lot, which sort of guarantees that Levy etc will be highly focused on it. Thinking about it, its almost right the way through our squad that players values are either declining, as high as they will ever be, or not that far from their peak. Caulker, Naughton, Walker, Sandro and Kaboul are possibly the only ones I'd estimate have any serious appreciation let to do. And they're all premier league proven already. Overall, to my ill informed view, our squad is a very high value asset, relative to where we've come from, which is just on the cusp of beginning a correspondingly precipitous depreciation in value.

Levy's statement contrasting now to "a time when [Harry's] experience and approach was exactly what was needed" is at least compatible with the idea that he's hoping to do some rebalancing of the squad towards investing for return on youth. If he thinks we really do need to do that, was Harry ever going to play along well enough with what it would entail? We can't afford to have a short term transfer policy, or to let this squad grow old and use up all its transfer value ourselves.We probably can't even afford to have a chaotic transfer policy.
 

hellava_tough

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My thoughts are there is more to this that meets the eye, along with jjetset recent comments I think something is going down at a higher level. It would have been the easiest thing to do to come to an agreement with Harry, however protracted. The supporters would have understood by the results on the pitch. Though Harry had his detractors, what manager has'nt?

Something significant is happening, more than a revamp of football methods.

Presumably you mean new ownership?
 

Dr Know

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Aug 21, 2008
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Harry made excuses when he had it good, come on guys he won't change especially now when it's gone so bad!

Like any situation, if you feel you've lost a good thing regardless if you're at fault. Harry was always trying to make himself look the victim. The thing Harry likes most in life is popularity, being the media darling as they say. He somehow always seemed to find the camera! Most high profile people hid from the press but Harry is the complete opposite

I felt we should have given him a chance and we tried to by the sounds of things (rolling contract)
 

striebs

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....I felt we should have given him a chance and we tried to by the sounds of things (rolling contract)

We presented him with an option which we knew , an he knew , would have undermined his authority with the players .

The players would have known Harry didn't have the full backing of the board and probably wouldn't be there next season .

We didn't try to "give him a chance" . The decision had already been made .
Presenting him with a 1 year rolling contract was a calculated move designed to engineer a seperation in a face saving manner - for the board .
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Reading Harrys quotes today, the most poignant thing he said for me was:

When I turned up for my meeting with Daniel Levy I didn’t know what to expect.

I was just told by the chairman that he had spoken to the owner of the club and things were changing. I wanted to stay but that’s life.

Anybody have any ideas what this means?
Perhaps they are selling up. Although i'm not sure what that's got to do with who is managing the club. So i'm probably wide of the mark.
 

Wiener

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We presented him with an option which we knew , an he knew , would have undermined his authority with the players .

The players would have known Harry didn't have the full backing of the board and probably wouldn't be there next season .

We didn't try to "give him a chance" . The decision had already been made .
Presenting him with a 1 year rolling contract was a calculated move designed to engineer a seperation in a face saving manner - for the board .

Does anyone really know what went on in the meeting between levy and redknapp? Redknapp is not exactly the most reliable source and the club, as far as I know, haven't said much on the matter.

I do agree with you that a 1 year rolling contract is not ideal, but then again I also don't think Redknapp is the best option for the long term given his health, age and tendency to walk away. Also I would imagine Redknapp is a handful to manage. His close relationship with the media and dubious financial dealings would be of concern to any employer.
 

StockSpur

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Howabout simply; new football academy, reserve team re-started, a focus on bringing through talent on cheaper contracts and all whilst shelling out multimillions on new facilities and a stadium instead of veterans and ridiculous wage demands.
 
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