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barry

Bring me Messi
May 22, 2005
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I know mate, but I just think after the 'mind the gap' jibes it's best we keep our powder dry for the end of each season, you know how it works with Spurs, we give it and we end up with big, savage teeth marks on our collective arses! :wideyed:

That's a coward's life bro. You celebrate when you can, and if it Comes back to haunt you, who gives a fuck. It's all part of the fun. Living your way sounds arduous.
 

barry

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May 22, 2005
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The comments about Arteta remind me of the mocking that Arsenal got when they appointed a little-known Frenchman named Wenger.

That could be said of many managers, most of whom fail.
Anyway you've done Wenger a disservice. He might not have been well know in the Uk, but he had a quite a successful managerial career, culminating in winning the league in France. I don't know why he was in Japan but he was obviously someone with a bit of respect in the wider footballing community.
Arteta hasn't done a thing.

If Arteta replicates a 10th of Wenger's achievements I'd be surprised, but if he is the next coming, such is life.
It'll be an exciting ride whatever happens.
 

Cochise

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Not a fair comparison though. Wenger had managerial experience, Arteta has not. It could work out for them, but I think we all expected to see an established name coming in for them.
 

Misfit

President of The Niles Crane Fanclub
May 7, 2006
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All things being equal, they would not have appointed Arteta as their first choice which means they were turned down by more than one prominent manager.

Whatever Arteta's future holds, at arsenal or elsewhere, it indicates that the club itself is not in a good place.

The sort of place it is easy to get mired in if they're not careful, as we knew for an entire lost decade. The land of "a better future is just around the corner even though we have no strategy to achieve it" directionless hope.
 

Misfit

President of The Niles Crane Fanclub
May 7, 2006
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Shit, I assumed this was the arsenal thread. Excuse the last post. On my mobile which is pants for browsing the internet. Won't happen again.
 

Anurag Jo

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May 14, 2014
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It's a fucking odd appointment by Arsenal it really is.
The pundits can analyse it all they want but at the end of the day they are gonna reach this same conclusion.

I wish some pundit says this exact sentence live on air.
 
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Arteta could easily turn out to be a Tim Sherwood.

The joke is that he's been labelled as some sort of club legend, when they could have easily gone for actual club legends with managerial experience (like Viera). Like Liverpool going for Charlie Adam over Gerrard
 

Dov67

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Jul 1, 2005
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we really have no idea how Arteta will turn out. Could be stroke of genius or an utter disaster..........lets hope its the latter.

No point asking me - I was upset when we appointed Poch because I want Frank de Boer, which shows how much i know...........precisely nothing!!
 

shelfmonkey

Weird is different, different is interesting.
Mar 21, 2007
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That's a coward's life bro. You celebrate when you can, and if it Comes back to haunt you, who gives a fuck. It's all part of the fun. Living your way sounds arduous.

Nah! Just feels much better to steam in full pelt at the right time????
 

BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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The comments about Arteta remind me of the mocking that Arsenal got when they appointed a little-known Frenchman named Wenger.
Little known perhaps but had extensive managerial experience including winning Ligue 1 with Monaco, with our own Glenn Hoddle (who recommended him to Arsenal) architect in chief and player of the year.

Arteta has proven no more than he is a very good number 2. Didn’t help Carlos Quieroz, Bryan Kidd, Steve McLaren. This appointment may prove to be a stroke of genius, but right now it’s as big a gamble as a big club has ever taken with managerial appointments and anyone pointing this out has clear basis to do so.
 

danielneeds

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May 5, 2004
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Little known perhaps but had extensive managerial experience including winning Ligue 1 with Monaco, with our own Glenn Hoddle (who recommended him to Arsenal) architect in chief and player of the year.

Arteta has proven no more than he is a very good number 2. Didn’t help Carlos Quieroz, Bryan Kidd, Steve McLaren. This appointment may prove to be a stroke of genius, but right now it’s as big a gamble as a big club has ever taken with managerial appointments and anyone pointing this out has clear basis to do so.
And also Wenger walked into a side with the best defence in the country that was full of leaders and Wright and Bergkamp upfront. Arteta is walking into one of the most complacency riven squads that has ever been.
 

Sweech

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Jun 27, 2013
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Little known perhaps but had extensive managerial experience including winning Ligue 1 with Monaco, with our own Glenn Hoddle (who recommended him to Arsenal) architect in chief and player of the year.

Arteta has proven no more than he is a very good number 2. Didn’t help Carlos Quieroz, Bryan Kidd, Steve McLaren. This appointment may prove to be a stroke of genius, but right now it’s as big a gamble as a big club has ever taken with managerial appointments and anyone pointing this out has clear basis to do so.
Not only that but football as a whole, especially on the coaching side, was completely different.

There was still a fair amount of xenophobia in the British game and almost any foreign coach hiring was made fun of, especially when it was out of somewhere like Japan.

Wenger brought in certain fitness practices that weren't being employed at the time; like not heavily drinking and eating fish and chips all the time. That's not even sarcasm - that's essentially what happened and it started a revolution in the game. Barely anyone was taking nutrition and dieting seriously at the time.

Add to that a lot of Wenger's success came from bringing in foreign player imports (mainly french ones) because a lot of the British clubs were barely scouting them at the time.

Arteta and Wenger are worlds apart. I'm not saying Arteta will be a bust but there's essentially nothing similar about the two.
 

rez9000

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Feb 8, 2007
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I think @davidmatzdorf is saying that the reactions to the appointment of Wenger and Artera are similar, not the men themselves. I certainly remember a lot of head-scratching from the commentariat when Wenger first arrived...
 

Navy Spur

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Tottenham.....did they really pay for your flight!

Awful club, I really can’t stand the Chavs! Hopefully this is all the motivation we need today! COYS

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BringBack_leGin

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I think @davidmatzdorf is saying that the reactions to the appointment of Wenger and Artera are similar, not the men themselves. I certainly remember a lot of head-scratching from the commentariat when Wenger first arrived...
Yes but what people are pointing out is that there is far more justification for reacting this way to Arteta than there ever was for Wenger.
 
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