Wout Weghorst

[wrd]

I think the reality is this, Jose likes Ruben Dias and let's say for arguments sake either Edouard or Vinicius. That's fine but the reality is the clubs those play for both share similar situations. They both feel these players are their prized assets and don't want to sell. They also both have missed out on the Champions League windfall. So that means that they value the assets highly but when push comes to shove they are going to have to strike a deal to help with their finances.

That means those deals are going to run to the end. Now obviously it's not ideal that we're going to be playing a fair few games into the season before we get a backup for Kane and our defence is not looking great it has to be said. The argument however is, would you rather settle for lesser talents such as Min-Jae because we might be able to get them over the line quicker as it's an easier deal to do. Alternatively do you wait for players who could make an instant impact and really improve the squad in a big way.

The deals we've done early make sense, Hojbjerg was running his contract down, Reguilon we needed to act as 99% of Europe would have taken the deal that United were leaving and Bale as we know, Madrid were so desperate to get rid that it sounded like other deals were coming to the fore with him. Now in my opinion is the time to wait for deadline day and see if we can land a striker who could actually play uptop with Kane (especially after what we saw yesterday) as opposed to simply a serviceable backup and also see if we can sign a top CB because it's absolutely clear we need one.

 

[Joely]

I saw this quote!

"Mourinho is not currently satisfied with Tottenham's transfer window."

ouch

Wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho is a tad frustrated with the club still not having moved on players he doesn't want which in turn is holding us up from moving onto one or two he is really keen on bringing in. Bale and Reguilon are obviously big signings but doesn't sound as though they were necessarily priority areas for him.

Think he'll see addressing the spine of the team (CB and maybe even a proper DM) as a priority and another striker. Probably realises the teams success relies heavily on keeping Kane as fresh and injury free as possible and so lessening the load on him and having an alternative striker to play in certain games is going to be very important in achieving that.

 

[spursintheblood]

Wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho is a tad frustrated with the club still not having moved on players he doesn't want which in turn is holding us up from moving onto one or two he is really keen on bringing in. Bale and Reguilon are obviously big signings but doesn't sound as though they were necessarily priority areas for him.

Think he'll see addressing the spine of the team (CB and maybe even a proper DM) as a priority and another striker. Probably realises the teams success relies heavily on keeping Kane as fresh and injury free as possible and so lessening the load on him and having an alternative striker to play in certain games is going to be very important in achieving that.

3 more weeks.

We're in the equivalent of the beginning of August and we've done good business so far.

Glass is nearly overbrimming, let alone half empty. Just a striker would do it. Anything more is gravy.

 

[Stoof]

Wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho is a tad frustrated with the club still not having moved on players he doesn't want which in turn is holding us up from moving onto one or two he is really keen on bringing in. Bale and Reguilon are obviously big signings but doesn't sound as though they were necessarily priority areas for him.

Think he'll see addressing the spine of the team (CB and maybe even a proper DM) as a priority and another striker. Probably realises the teams success relies heavily on keeping Kane as fresh and injury free as possible and so lessening the load on him and having an alternative striker to play in certain games is going to be very important in achieving that.

I always struggle with the logic behind this statement.

Annoyed that someone doesn't want to buy a player that he also doesn't want. Or that the player doesn't want to go to clubs that do want the player.

How is that in any way the club's fault? Are you saying it's always our fault for putting too high a price on them?

Why don't the other chairman just "pay the fucking money". AMIRITE?!

 

[Tucker]

I saw this quote!

"Mourinho is not currently satisfied with Tottenham's transfer window."

ouch

We have had a good window so far, but the job isn’t finished until we have another dedicated striker on the books. Personally I see anything else after that as a bonus, but we must must must get a striker.

 

[Matthew]

They should both be a priority - they were clearly positions earmarked going into the window and the fact neither have been addressed is symptomatic of Spurs under numerous mangers.

I have no issue being dazzled with Bale and Regulion but people have lost sight of the fact we're still sans striker heading into this run of games. I wouldn't mind but every one was screaming for a back up striker during the winter window but now it's okay to wait until the end of the summer one to purchase one?

People will be moaning about central mid if they continue to play like they did yesterday in spells. It's brewing.

i agree we need both, both for me personally CB is higher on the list.

 

[Joely]

I always struggle with the logic behind this statement.

Annoyed that someone doesn't want to buy a player that he also doesn't want. Or that the player doesn't want to go to clubs that do want the player.

How is that in any way the club's fault? Are you saying it's always our fault for putting too high a price on them?

Why don't the other chairman just "pay the fucking money". AMIRITE?!

Oh I agree and from my own perspective totally understand why a lot of the times players will move towards the end of the window. I'm talking more from Mourinho's perspective who in his role is probably understandably eager to move on players he doesn't want and get in the ones he wants as quick as possible and a touch of frustration can creep in as he probably wants to get cracking with his own set of players asap.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I think the reality is this, Jose likes Ruben Dias and let's say for arguments sake either Edouard or Vinicius. That's fine but the reality is the clubs those play for both share similar situations. They both feel these players are their prized assets and don't want to sell. They also both have missed out on the Champions League windfall. So that means that they value the assets highly but when push comes to shove they are going to have to strike a deal to help with their finances.

That means those deals are going to run to the end. Now obviously it's not ideal that we're going to be playing a fair few games into the season before we get a backup for Kane and our defence is not looking great it has to be said. The argument however is, would you rather settle for lesser talents such as Min-Jae because we might be able to get them over the line quicker as it's an easier deal to do. Alternatively do you wait for players who could make an instant impact and really improve the squad in a big way.

The deals we've done early make sense, Hojbjerg was running his contract down, Reguilon we needed to act as 99% of Europe would have taken the deal that United were leaving and Bale as we know, Madrid were so desperate to get rid that it sounded like other deals were coming to the fore with him. Now in my opinion is the time to wait for deadline day and see if we can land a striker who could actually play uptop with Kane (especially after what we saw yesterday) as opposed to simply a serviceable backup and also see if we can sign a top CB because it's absolutely clear we need one.

Thing is, we're supposed to be pushing forward and getting the players in the manager wants/positions earmarked in asap to make his job easier and to improve the playing squad and thus results on the pitch. It's the same argument we had and in this instance we're talking about key acquisitions. It seems debates and arguments are built to suit at the time and not as an overall which is something I can't get my head around.

 

[wrd]

Thing is, we're supposed to be pushing forward and getting the players in the manager wants/positions earmarked in asap to make his job easier and to improve the playing squad and thus results on the pitch. It's the same argument we had and in this instance we're talking about key acquisitions. It seems debates and arguments are built to suit at the time and not as an overall which is something I can't get my head around.

Well as I said at the time, because we had the conversation when we were still haggling over Hojbjerg that we have to strike a balance in our approach to the market and I put value into that DM and RB position being sorted before the season starts. If I now complain that we needed to sign a striker before hand then I'm undermining what I said. I do appreciate that Jose probably wanted Striker sorted before we added Bale and Reggie but my personal opinion is that I don't want another Llorente, Janssen where we're settling and if we can sign top quality it is worth the wait. If we don't sign a striker of great quality and go for one of our cheaper options then I will question why we waited to pull the trigger.

I also think if you look over the world of football we have sorted more problems than any club in the entire world with the exception of Liverpool who didn't really have any. Chelsea for all their business still have Kepa in goal. We're talking about a backup striker. I don't think many of us expected CB to be as big a problem as it now looks to be but we do need that sorted. If we could sorted that one a week before we play United I'd be over the moon but don't anticipate it will be.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Well as I said at the time, because we had the conversation when we were still haggling over Hojbjerg that we have to strike a balance in our approach to the market and I put value into that DM and RB position being sorted before the season starts. If I now complain that we needed to sign a striker before hand then I'm undermining what I said. I do appreciate that Jose probably wanted Striker sorted before we added Bale and Reggie but my personal opinion is that I don't want another Llorente, Janssen where we're settling and if we can sign top quality it is worth the wait. If we don't sign a striker of great quality and go for one of our cheaper options then I will question why we waited to pull the trigger.

I also think if you look over the world of football we have sorted more problems than any club in the entire world with the exception of Liverpool who didn't really have any. Chelsea for all their business still have Kepa in goal. We're talking about a backup striker. I don't think many of us expected CB to be as big a problem as it now looks to be but we do need that sorted. If we could sorted that one a week before we play United I'd be over the moon but don't anticipate it will be.

Difference between what we see and what the man in charge see's - the link to the Inter central defender should have been a clue perhaps? ...

Like I said, debate, arguments but built to suit. Not going to lie, I find it funny that people felt as strongly as they did in the winter but are now relaxed about it come the summer. People's arguments are easily swayed by players being purchased I guess.

 

[dtxspurs]

I always struggle with the logic behind this statement.

Annoyed that someone doesn't want to buy a player that he also doesn't want. Or that the player doesn't want to go to clubs that do want the player.

How is that in any way the club's fault? Are you saying it's always our fault for putting too high a price on them?

Why don't the other chairman just "pay the fucking money". AMIRITE?!

Well a part of it probably has to do with having realistic valuations for our players we’d like to sell.

 

[wrd]

Well a part of it probably has to do with having realistic valuations for our players we’d like to sell.

How do we get the top players we're linked to if we don't try and get good value for our players. Our fans logic seems to be, sell for whatever the buying club wants and buy for whatever the selling club wants. They're at direct odds with eachother.

 

[TPdYID]

I think the reality is this, Jose likes Ruben Dias and let's say for arguments sake either Edouard or Vinicius. That's fine but the reality is the clubs those play for both share similar situations. They both feel these players are their prized assets and don't want to sell. They also both have missed out on the Champions League windfall. So that means that they value the assets highly but when push comes to shove they are going to have to strike a deal to help with their finances.

That means those deals are going to run to the end. Now obviously it's not ideal that we're going to be playing a fair few games into the season before we get a backup for Kane and our defence is not looking great it has to be said. The argument however is, would you rather settle for lesser talents such as Min-Jae because we might be able to get them over the line quicker as it's an easier deal to do. Alternatively do you wait for players who could make an instant impact and really improve the squad in a big way.

The deals we've done early make sense, Hojbjerg was running his contract down, Reguilon we needed to act as 99% of Europe would have taken the deal that United were leaving and Bale as we know, Madrid were so desperate to get rid that it sounded like other deals were coming to the fore with him. Now in my opinion is the time to wait for deadline day and see if we can land a striker who could actually play uptop with Kane (especially after what we saw yesterday) as opposed to simply a serviceable backup and also see if we can sign a top CB because it's absolutely clear we need one.

This post deserved multiple ‘winner rep’

There’s a time to pull the trigger and shoot from the hip, but there’s also a time for a calmer more measured approach.

Judging so far, I believe we’re getting it right. Will be more obvious just ‘how right’ come then window closure.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

I have read all 29 pages of this thread and I think this is the first time where hardly anyone is speaking about what type of player he is.

He is nothing like crouch, technically and with his hold up play he is not in the same league as crouch. He is not really a back to goal striker, infact he is more Shane long than anything else.

He runs about a lot, pressing high and well, he is a nuisance in the box and has an eye for goal (ok not so much lik long). Of course his physical attributes give him an edge.

I can see why people are attracted to this signing but I don't see us throwing 30m on him.

Could actually be a very astute signing but again depends on the price. Think Wilson, 10-15m good signing, 20-25 not so good.

With wout I think it's the same, signing 28 to strikers from Europe is very west ham, but in this case it might be a really interesting one.

If he wants to play in England then this could be his last chance, it's very unlikely a top English team comes in for him when he's 30. All down to how much, I imagine and no way will we spunk 30m on him.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

3 more weeks.

We're in the equivalent of the beginning of August and we've done good business so far.

Glass is nearly overbrimming, let alone half empty. Just a striker would do it. Anything more is gravy.

2 weeks actually, but yeah we’ve done great business so far, will be a travesty if we don’t sign a striker but there’s still time.

Hopefully we can shift those that need to go too cause Jose is clearly not happy with having so many players.

 

[WiganSpur]

Would still be abhorrent negligence not to get a striker in but at least now with Bale in that means less shifting around of positions if Kane gets injured. Bale is also of a decent size and good in the air meaning he could probably operate up front too.

 

[spursintheblood]

2 weeks actually, but yeah we’ve done great business so far, will be a travesty if we don’t sign a striker but there’s still time.

Hopefully we can shift those that need to go too cause Jose is clearly not happy with having so many players.

Good grief, it's the 21st... Tempus fugit. Agree we need a striker. Sorloth looking like a potential competitor for Wout...

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

So it's a dream transfer but we have to work to convince him

 

[wrd]

So it's a dream transfer but we have to work to convince him

I want you to want me is the dream

 

[Neon_Knight_]

3 more weeks.

We're in the equivalent of the beginning of August and we've done good business so far.

Glass is nearly overbrimming, let alone half empty. Just a striker would do it. Anything more is gravy.

Exactly this!

When we only have a couple of key signings to focus on, I absolutely understand the frustration around everything being left until the last minute. When we've got a bigger rebuild on our hands, we should accept that we won't resolve seven or eight transfer simultaneously and something will drag on until deadline day (or not happen at all).

We've upgraded four of our starting XI, plus our back-up GK. Even if the window ends without our squad exactly where we / Jose / Levy hoped it would be, I think it's fair to say it's been a highly successful window and our best for many years.