Wout Weghorst

[absolute bobbins]

It’s not being picky, that was a key part of your argument and it was false.

With regards to why he only has 4 caps, dunno - probs because they have Depay who plays there. Koeman who was the manager until last month clearly loves him as he’s trying to sign for Barca.

It think it could be said that part of the reason is that he's not the typical Dutch striker either and they don't try to force square pegs into round holes

 

[spursfan77]

Always good to hear from someone who has actually seen him play live rather than basing an opinion on YouTube clips even if it isn’t what people want to hear.

Hardly a nice way to welcome a new poster, a barrage of negative ratings for an opinion that maybe different from everyone else’s. Seen a lot of this recently.

 

[TROWBES82]

It’s not being picky, that was a key part of your argument and it was false.

With regards to why he only has 4 caps, dunno - probs because they have Depay who plays there. Koeman who was the manager until last month clearly loves him as he’s trying to sign for Barca.

OK 4 caps and a total of 47 minutes game time for those 4 caps to be precise. Hardly pulling up any trees.

So you've answered your own question. He plays depay upfront whos a winger for his club side.lack of faith in Weghorst?

Tell me what your reasons are for favouring him with a move to us? If presume you've seen him play on a regular basis to back this up?

 

[TROWBES82]

Always good to hear from someone who has actually seen him play live rather than basing an opinion on YouTube clips even if it isn’t what people want to hear.

Hardly a nice way to welcome a new poster, a barrage of negative ratings for an opinion that maybe different from everyone else’s. Seen a lot of this recently.

Thank you. I'm not trying to cause an argument either, I'm actually against this being kanes back up based on, as I've said, seeing him play for the last 2 years. I'm not judging on YouTube clips as many are saying but then it makes me wonder what those against my post are judging him on. Presumably not YouTube!

 

[thebenjamin]

Thank you. I'm not trying to cause an argument either, I'm actually against this being kanes back up based on, as I've said, seeing him play for the last 2 years. I'm not judging on YouTube clips as many are saying but then it makes me wonder what those against my post are judging him on. Presumably not YouTube!

Realistically people have decided they want him because he's got a funny name and seems like a character.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Why is this expert commenting, we've pretty much had it confirmed by those at in the media that he isn't leaving.

Monday morning banter.

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

OK 4 caps and a total of 47 minutes game time for those 4 caps to be precise. Hardly pulling up any trees.

So you've answered your own question. He plays depay upfront whos a winger for his club side.lack of faith in Weghorst?

Tell me what your reasons are for favouring him with a move to us? If presume you've seen him play on a regular basis to back this up?

His lack of international caps is irrelevant. We could all (including you )reel off a long list of English players who should have been capped far more than they have. And vice versa.

All that matters is whether or not Weghorst could do a good job for Spurs. And the opinion of most who have watched him on here (I haven't) is that he very much could. He would give us th option of resting Kane while, at the same time, offering something different to Kane. He works and presses ferociously. He has great movement in the box. He has an excellent scoring record in a top league. He's apparently gettable. And won't cost the earth.

I couldn't say whether he would be a better buy for us than Edouard or Vinicius but he certainly seems to be a good shout.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Realistically people have decided they want him because he's got a funny name and seems like a character.

Probably more to do with his unselfish work rate, height and the fact he seems to fit something Mourinho might look for as a plan B for Kane? ...

fuck a duck, some of you will believe a guy on here who has supposedly watched him two years yet didn't know how many caps he had for his national team.

 

[fletch82]

I watched him yesterday
I know it was a poor game but he looked lumbering and cumbersome
I also know I shouldn't judge a player on one game but I'm a fickle bastard and I have.
So with that in mind my apologies to @Stoof I'm out.

 

[Spartanspurs]

Realistically people have decided they want him because he's got a funny name and seems like a character.

We all know the real reason is the puns.

 

[TROWBES82]

His lack of international caps is irrelevant. We could all (including you )reel off a long list of English players who should have been capped far more than they have. And vice versa.

All that matters is whether or not Weghorst could do a good job for Spurs. And the opinion of most who have watched him on here (I haven't) is that he very much could. He would give us th option of resting Kane while, at the same time, offering something different to Kane. He works and presses ferociously. He has great movement in the box. He has an excellent scoring record in a top league. He's apparently gettable. And won't cost the earth.

I couldn't say whether he would be a better buy for us than Edouard or Vinicius but he certainly seems to be a good shout.

That's fine and you're intitled to your opinion. I'd like to know where you get the opinion 'He works and presses ferociously' from though.
You say why believe a guy that says has watched him regularly for 2 years, but you judge your opinions on others that have seen him on youtube clips!

His lack of international caps is relevant due to the fact that he's a dutch striker and Holland need a striker yet, even with his goalscoring record, gets continually overlooked. I'll put it another way, from watching him and llorente, hes a poor mans llorente. If you judge this to be of good enough standard then fine. I personally don't and think it would be money wasted when there are potentially better options on the table that others have mentioned in the ITK thread.

 

[Spurrific]

Probably more to do with his unselfish work rate, height and the fact he seems to fit something Mourinho might look for as a plan B for Kane? ...

fuck a duck, some of you will believe a guy on here who has supposedly watched him two years yet didn't know how many caps he had for his national team.

There's just no point engaging with somebody who claims to have watched Wolfsburg 20 times in the flesh over the past couple years. It's what people do on the internet. They make a terrible shout, then in embarrassment falsify evidence to give their view more weight than the people that disagree with them.

You just have to look him up to see Bundesliga experts (the ones that actually watch the games and are paid to talk about it) waxing lyrical about Weghorst - but the typical misery bollocks posters want to buy into anything negative.

I'm not saying he's the best striker ever, but if somebody is going to compare him to Janssen - they either haven't seen Weghorst play, or haven't seen Janssen play - and on a Spurs forum, I'd lean towards them having seen Janssen.

I didn't even realise they were a new poster, but they're also a fully-grown adult - I'm sure they've had differences in opinion before. I also don't know why I'm bothering to type this, as it sounds like we're not going to sign him anyway.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Personally I’d take @TROWBES82 ’s opinion over mine or anyone else’s who is only going on stats and videos (assuming he’s being honest as why would he make that up?), which is all I’ve been able to do for pretty much all our striker links, but the fact that he scored 1 in 2 across two seasons for not Ajax in Erevidisie and then scored 1 in 2 across two seasons for not Bayern in Bundesliga suggests to me that at the very least he’s got the ability to keep scoring so long as he’s given chances to do so. That’s of course a very basic interpretion with absolute no inspection of what lies beneath the stats, but when his physical attributes at also considered I certainly see why we’d buy him.

I think I’d prefer Vinícius but reality is, any striker with the right recent record and physical attributes will improve us. All I ask is that we don’t buy Troy Deeney.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

There's just no point engaging with somebody who claims to have watched Wolfsburg 20 times in the flesh over the past couple years. It's what people do on the internet. They make a terrible shout, then in embarrassment falsify evidence to give their view more weight than the people that disagree with them.

You just have to look him up to see Bundesliga experts (the ones that actually watch the games and are paid to talk about it) waxing lyrical about Weghorst - but the typical misery bollocks posters want to buy into anything negative.

I'm not saying he's the best striker ever, but if somebody is going to compare him to Janssen - they either haven't seen Weghorst play, or haven't seen Janssen play - and on a Spurs forum, I'd lean towards them having seen Janssen.

I didn't even realise they were a new poster, but they're also a fully-grown adult - I'm sure they've had differences in opinion before. I also don't know why I'm bothering to type this, as it sounds like we're not going to sign him anyway.

Totally agree and probably the most important thing is, as you say, it doesn't sound as though we're going to sign him. People can rest easy now, they can go and moan about Vinicius (which people did on original linking to him) or pine after Edouard/Ings which seem the most pie in the sky.

C'est la vie.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

There's just no point engaging with somebody who claims to have watched Wolfsburg 20 times in the flesh over the past couple years. It's what people do on the internet. They make a terrible shout, then in embarrassment falsify evidence to give their view more weight than the people that disagree with them.

You just have to look him up to see Bundesliga experts (the ones that actually watch the games and are paid to talk about it) waxing lyrical about Weghorst - but the typical misery bollocks posters want to buy into anything negative.

I'm not saying he's the best striker ever, but if somebody is going to compare him to Janssen - they either haven't seen Weghorst play, or haven't seen Janssen play - and on a Spurs forum, I'd lean towards them having seen Janssen.

I didn't even realise they were a new poster, but they're also a fully-grown adult - I'm sure they've had differences in opinion before. I also don't know why I'm bothering to type this, as it sounds like we're not going to sign him anyway.

One thing I’ve been surprised by this this window is that our striker search has revealed a lot of people with a superb dedication to watching football. My life pretty much revolves around football (every holiday is booked for as soon as my wife (teacher) begins summer holidays in July so I can make it home for our first home game) and especially so since leaving London where everyone I know lives, yet between work, wife, family, the odd dinner or movie, I’ll be damned if I have the time to watch more than the odd non PL match. I used to make the effort for La Liga to watch every Barcelona match but that’s been killed by 11sports.

 

[Mornstar]

I watched him yesterday
I know it was a poor game but he looked lumbering and cumbersome
I also know I shouldn't judge a player on one game but I'm a fickle bastard and I have.
So with that in mind my apologies to @Stoof I'm out.

Should fit in quite nicely in that case

 

[TROWBES82]

There's just no point engaging with somebody who claims to have watched Wolfsburg 20 times in the flesh over the past couple years. It's what people do on the internet. They make a terrible shout, then in embarrassment falsify evidence to give their view more weight than the people that disagree with them.

You just have to look him up to see Bundesliga experts (the ones that actually watch the games and are paid to talk about it) waxing lyrical about Weghorst - but the typical misery bollocks posters want to buy into anything negative.

I'm not saying he's the best striker ever, but if somebody is going to compare him to Janssen - they either haven't seen Weghorst play, or haven't seen Janssen play - and on a Spurs forum, I'd lean towards them having seen Janssen.

I didn't even realise they were a new poster, but they're also a fully-grown adult - I'm sure they've had differences in opinion before. I also don't know why I'm bothering to type this, as it sounds like we're not going to sign him anyway.

haha, I guess your bio says a lot about you! Not trying to be negative, just honest opinion. You're right, I've not watched Wolfsburg at all in the last few years, happy now? Oh and whilst we're at it, shall I tell you who the dutch play regularly up front over him? Luuk De Jong (the guy that flopped at Newcastle)

 

[King of Otters]

And you've made a pre judged comment. I've seen him play live maybe 15-20 times in the last 2 years and what I've seen is not impressive. In those games ive seen he's also scored around 10 goals but his overall game in my opinion is poor. What do you base your judgement on the fact he's good?

This is such a laughably feeble attempt to give your terrible opinions a little bit of validity.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe for one second that you watch Wolfsburg regularly.

 

[Spurrific]

haha, I guess your bio says a lot about you! Not trying to be negative, just honest opinion. You're right, I've not watched Wolfsburg at all in the last few years, happy now? Oh and whilst we're at it, shall I tell you who the dutch play regularly up front over him? Luuk De Jong (the guy that flopped at Newcastle)

As you're a new poster, I won't give you the full business - I'm a kind, generous soul and I find it unsavoury to make somebody's welcome here negative. Luuk de Jong has started 2 games for Holland fwiw.

I'd like to extend an olive branch. Let's move beyond this. I don't want to fall out with a fellow Spurs fan over Wout, that's what he wants.

 

[Japhet]

actually, disagree.

he would be great as a plan B for matches when our opponents just sit deep and defend in low blocks. that's when we will try the aerial bombardment route concurrently with the GLC / Tanguy / Coco find holes to penetrate route.

with 10 mins to play and chasing a winner / equaliser for example, we clearly need better options in the air + press the opponent like pack of wolves and not let them dwell on ball / keep possession

Would also be a great option for set pieces if we're struggling to break through. We now have Bale and Reguilon who have a killer ball on them.