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[DiscoD1882]

The good thing is if we don't win it this year there is no Euro or World cup to ruin the start of our season. Poch will have a full squad from the off. And this can only make us even better. Super proud of the way we have played this year. But we did have a hangover at the start of the season.

 

[Flashspur]

Agree Mullers, we need some silverware!

 

[ERO]

We've been responsible for almost a fifth of city's losses over the last two seasons.

Newcastle has been responisble for more than a fifth of ours...

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Look, it's been a fantastic season, surpassed my expectations but I don't want us to be remembered as the best team never to win anything and Iam very sure if you asked Poch or the players they wouldn't like to finish their spell with us not winning anything.

But it's not how others remember us that matters, it's how you do. I'm loving this team, loving watching this team knowing it's a proper team doing proper things, coached properly, like other teams I used to be envious of.

Winning a trophy has got harder because this league - the teams in it and Europe has got much better in every way. So for me, being one of the very best teams in this league is a huge footballing achievement and I'll always remember that, whether we win a trophy or not. Whether others remember that or not.

The joy for me is not about one day, one moment, it's about the last three years watching this team week after week evolve into the best Spurs side I've seen, going back to the mid seventies. And doing it the hard way too, by being run well as a club and superb coaching.

Winning the league would be the dream and what this team deserves, but not winning it won't rob me of the knowledge and enjoyment I'm getting from this phase, watching us play great football, play with and without the ball superbly and winning a cup wouldn't mean much at all in comparison to what we have done in the league, the way we have done it and what we have achieved in becoming this team.

 

[double0]

It would be lovely to win trophies with this team and manager.

 

[kungfugrip]

If there is one thing that stands out to me here, it's that even the very top teams roughly win 2, draw 1 and lose 1 every 4 games.

If Chelsea results are average, we can win the league.

This isn't over.

Top teams don't lose 9 games a season. The last two years the Champions only lost three games.

 

[Matthew]

That draw away at Sunderland was so disappointing in this run as on paper and form should have despatch them away at ease

for me, this is the one that really grates at me still, they are so so bad!

 

[bubble07]

105 winner ratings.... jeeeeez

 

[thinktank]

They've also not had European football.

EL is a drain. I know people wanted us to win a cup, but that comp sucks the life outta ya. If we were still in it we wouldn't be in this position - still in with a chance of winning the title with 4 games left.

Hope the scum get stuck in it next season.

 

[kmk]

EL is a drain. I know people wanted us to win a cup, but that comp sucks the life outta ya. If we were still in it we wouldn't be in this position - still in with a chance of winning the title with 4 games left.

Hope the scum get stuck in it next season.

Hopefully they will have to travel to far flung places like Kazan, Kharkiv and Krasnodar.

 

[simyid]

2 results i think we will end the season really regretting are the 1-1 draw at home to Leicester when they were getting battered by everyone and we missed a host of chances. and the 0-0 draw away to sunderland who are just dogshite. all other results we have had this season are forgivable but those two really sting, win those 2 games and we would be top on GD.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

105 winner ratings.... jeeeeez

I know. Almost as good as a trophy, eh?

 

[fatpiranha]

EL is a drain. I know people wanted us to win a cup, but that comp sucks the life outta ya. If we were still in it we wouldn't be in this position - still in with a chance of winning the title with 4 games left.

Hope the scum get stuck in it next season.

It really does. All European involvement hurts your Premiership position but generally the teams who make the Champions League places have the squad depth to handle it. The Europa League is the worst though because it's played on a Thursday night and generally involves a lot more travelling. I doubt very much if Chelsea would be top of the league if they had qualified for Europe last season.

Look how badly Southampton, Leicester and Man Utd are doing in the league this season. Last season they managed 63, 81 and 66 pts respectively. Currently they are on 41, 40 and 65 pts. Man Utd look to have bucked the trend but considering they have Maureen and have spent a fortune I still think they have massively underperformed. The season before Everton got 47 pts when they were involved in the Uefa Cup after getting 63 pts the previous season. In 2011/12 Newcastle qualified for Uefa with 65 pts and next season narrowly avoided relegation with 41 pts.

The Europa League/Uefa Cup has always been a poisoned chalice. It doesn't have the financial rewards or ability to attract players to the club that mitigates much of the downside of the Champions League while still being at least as big of a drain on resources. It is to Spurs' credit that despite our perennial involvement we have managed to keep improving our league position.

 

[Phischy]

I completely agree with the comments on Europe. It's not just fatigue, if you assume that there's a percentage chance of a player getting injured in every game... the simple act of playing more games increases the chance of injury and therefore players missing league games; without getting into the science of playing after a long flight or the interruptions to training or whatever. Chelsea (and teams like Manchester United in their one year finishing above us since Fergie left and Liverpool in their 'nearly' season) have definitely benefitted from the lack of European football this season. Next year, it will be another team who performs better than expected as a result.

The Europa league needs to be reformed entirely. I remain utterly convinced that 3 smaller tournaments represents a better solution than 2 big tournaments, one of which has effectively had to replace both the Europa League and Cup Winners Cup in terms of opportunity for European football, whilst offering very little in the way of reward for participants.

Once upon a time winning a UEFA cup meant something, because there was a decent chance one of the big teams from each of the big leagues would be in it. Now it's all about having the stamina to fly to Kraznodar and Rostov and back.

On the other hand, the Premier League now may be a reflection of how things are going. With 6 genuinely competitive teams it means 2 will miss out on CL football (possibly more if someone else sneaks in) and there's a decent chance of one of the big clubs having no Europe at all. That club is likely then to have an overperforming season the following year, encouraging a greater variety of Premier League winners and as a result better player distribution with top players no longer gravitating to one or two clubs. This could actually mean that football could become interesting again.

Who knows, anyway, the days when you would have extended periods of 2 club domination within a 4 club cartel appear to be over and whilst there is much to complain about for us (the club that is consistent - and suffering as a result, as opposed to alternating stellar and stinky seasons like Chelsea) we may be seeing the start of a different period in which football becomes more interesting again... Or at the very least in which we are part of a 6 club group of realistic champions instead of one of the two knocking at the door of that private 'members club' with a 4 team membership!

Sorry another long somewhat rambling post in which I have managed to pose both argument and counter argument to my own point. This is why I find twitter so difficult!

 

[Marty]

On the other hand, the Premier League now may be a reflection of how things are going. With 6 genuinely competitive teams it means 2 will miss out on CL football (possibly more if someone else sneaks in) and there's a decent chance of one of the big clubs having no Europe at all. That club is likely then to have an overperforming season the following year, encouraging a greater variety of Premier League winners and as a result better player distribution with top players no longer gravitating to one or two clubs. This could actually mean that football could become interesting again.

Who knows, anyway, the days when you would have extended periods of 2 club domination within a 4 club cartel appear to be over and whilst there is much to complain about for us (the club that is consistent - and suffering as a result, as opposed to alternating stellar and stinky seasons like Chelsea) we may be seeing the start of a different period in which football becomes more interesting again... Or at the very least in which we are part of a 6 club group of realistic champions instead of one of the two knocking at the door of that private 'members club' with a 4 team membership!

Were we to haul Chelsea in and nick the title, it will be the fifth different winner in five seasons: United, City, Chelsea, Leicester, us. That is nothing if not good for the league and makes it a thousand times more exciting than La Liga, Bundesliga or Serie A (where you expect Juve to manage at least ten titles in a row on current form).

 

[yiddopaul]

I'm old fashioned. CL should be for champions only (and maybe runners up), in a knock-out competition. More exciting.
EL should be just be a knock-out competition. Of course it won't happen, because it's not about football anymore, it's about money.

It's why I think the FA Cup is still the best cup competition in the world. Grass roots to the prem.

 

[davros]

I'm old fashioned. CL should be for champions only (and maybe runners up), in a knock-out competition. More exciting.
EL should be just be a knock-out competition. Of course it won't happen, because it's not about football anymore, it's about money.

It's why I think the FA Cup is still the best cup competition in the world. Grass roots to the prem.

I'd be happy to see a tournament for the league champions of Europe's top leagues, and then a separate competition for the cup winners. There would be very few teams competing in each tournament, and with fewer games, a team winning a league and cup double could compete in both European tournaments. The winners of each tournament could then face off in a mega final.

 

[ERO]

Well, I think the Champions League is awesome.

 

[yiddopaul]

I'd be happy to see a tournament for the league champions of Europe's top leagues, and then a separate competition for the cup winners. There would be very few teams competing in each tournament, and with fewer games, a team winning a league and cup double could compete in both European tournaments. The winners of each tournament could then face off in a mega final.

It would also level out the playing field somewhat in domestic leagues as there'll be less teams competing at the highest level.

 

[Phomesy]

I'm old fashioned. CL should be for champions only (and maybe runners up), in a knock-out competition. More exciting.
EL should be just be a knock-out competition. Of course it won't happen, because it's not about football anymore, it's about money.

It's why I think the FA Cup is still the best cup competition in the world. Grass roots to the prem.

Starting to agree. While I like watching football the CL and EL just seem to drag on forever these days.