Zeki Fryers

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Would have been the same as Bostock when Jordan stupidly declined our offer of a mil, went to tribunal and got peanuts.
Fergie asked for £6m but the tribunal would have said no more than £1m imo.

I'm all for screwing the dirtiest transfer operators in memory, but I have a horrible feeling that this could haunt us.

If there is a trail that links his move to Liege with us then I worry the FA could p.unish us for not acting within the spirit of the rules in some way.

I can see it now, finish 4th and qualify for the CL then get a points deduction leaving us 7th.
If that's the case why would Yanited turn down the £5m we offered (according to baconface himself) flatly then? Nah, they were confident about getting the full £6m. Which leads one to think...
 

WiganSpur

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What do people make of him now?

Not sure he will develop into a first team player but the kid has done alright. Premier League loan next season could really do him some good.
 

rabbikeane

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Would have been the same as Bostock when Jordan stupidly declined our offer of a mil, went to tribunal and got peanuts.
Fergie asked for £6m but the tribunal would have said no more than £1m imo.
I believe if it had gone to tribunal there's no opportunity to opt out if one doesn't like the price set.
It's (was) dangerous to go up against Ferguson with tribunals and similiar boards as he is considered an authority in the game. Other clubs have used statement from Ferguson to get work permit for players, if Ferguson says a player is good enough for the Premier Legue who are others to object.
And an academy kid that got a career threatning injury won a huge payout in court just because Ferguson said he was in line for a pro contract at United. Not to mention the work permits United have been given that wouldn't have been given to other clubs. If Ferguson say Fryers is a £6m player, it's very likely that a tribunal would come to same (or close to the same) conclusion. We opted out and was lucky to see him wanting to return to England after his belgian spell.
 

parklane1

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I have always said that he is under rated. Better than Danny Rose in my opinion and will get a lot better. If we were to sell him now, we would rue the day IMO

I agree he is a much better player then Rose, he is only a kid (21) and he will get better.
 

chinaman

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I agree he is better than Rose. He'll bring in more revenue as his name is one letter more than Rose.
 

Syn_13

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My main gripe with Rose is that he is nowhere near good enough defensively. Sure, he can make a good tackle, and has the pace to chase his man, but his positional sense is woeful. He's often caught out half way down the pitch and this ends up pulling Vertonghen well out of position to compensate. I'd like to see a breakdown of how we concede goals to see if he's a major factor, I wouldn't be surprised if he was. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that when he was learning to be a football in his early years it was as a midfielder. I know players often adapt to new positions at a young age but he probably didn't do a lot of defensive work until he became a left back under Harry.

I hope Fryers has better positional sense defensively, considering he's played centre back a few times I'd imagine he does.
 

coopsy13

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To be fair that's a lot like saying id prefer a bout of syphillis to a genetal wort.
Seeing as syphilis can cause serious damage to your body and increase your chances of getting HIV, I think I'd rather have the genital wort.

Not sure which of the two is the syphilis....
 

Hitch

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Fryers looks better than Rose defensively but doesn't offer enough going forward (and in the modern game the latter appears more imperative than the former).

His position in the long run will probably be centre back. Still too early to say but I'm not convinced that he's of the requisite quality to make it for us there. That said, he'll make it as a prem player imo.
 

SlickMongoose

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Fryers looks better than Rose defensively but doesn't offer enough going forward (and in the modern game the latter appears more imperative than the former).
He's not as dynamic going forward, but I think his crossing might be better.
 

Strikeb4ck

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He's young and does reasonably well every time we play him, in what I'm not sure is his best position. Worth keeping around for sure, a Prem loan as mentioned above is another option. Good outlook for him without a doubt.
 

Hitch

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He's not as dynamic going forward, but I think his crossing might be better.
Can't be too much worse so you're probably right. Haven't really seen Fryers getting into position often enough to judge yet.
 

ardiles&villa

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Hes better defensively, can cross the ball better than rose and he can stay on his feet when he get near the box...rose just falls over or fluffs the cross
 

timdissy

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I believe if it had gone to tribunal there's no opportunity to opt out if one doesn't like the price set.
It's (was) dangerous to go up against Ferguson with tribunals and similiar boards as he is considered an authority in the game. Other clubs have used statement from Ferguson to get work permit for players, if Ferguson says a player is good enough for the Premier Legue who are others to object.
And an academy kid that got a career threatning injury won a huge payout in court just because Ferguson said he was in line for a pro contract at United. Not to mention the work permits United have been given that wouldn't have been given to other clubs. If Ferguson say Fryers is a £6m player, it's very likely that a tribunal would come to same (or close to the same) conclusion. We opted out and was lucky to see him wanting to return to England after his belgian spell.
It did go to tribunal on which SAF sat, they upheld the Man U valuation and then he moved to Standard Liege for a nominal fee which I think was £1m. After playing 7 matches was homesick so signed for Spurs for a fee of approx £1-2m There was fury from Spurs fans as to how a tribunal for a Man U player could have SAF on it but that's the way the Premier League and FA work!!!!!

Could this have been a plan by Daniel Levy ;-) ?
 

NickHSpurs

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I think when you factor in this is really his breakthrough season in England he's done very well. I don't recall him making any glaring mistakes and he's been pretty steady.

Loan move next season like we had for Kyle Walker would be great for his development.
 

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He surprised me with his performance against Dnipro and other than fading a little at the end which was to be expected in a very hard fought game............I thought the lad was excellent.
 

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I believe if it had gone to tribunal there's no opportunity to opt out if one doesn't like the price set.
It's (was) dangerous to go up against Ferguson with tribunals and similiar boards as he is considered an authority in the game. Other clubs have used statement from Ferguson to get work permit for players, if Ferguson says a player is good enough for the Premier Legue who are others to object.
And an academy kid that got a career threatning injury won a huge payout in court just because Ferguson said he was in line for a pro contract at United. Not to mention the work permits United have been given that wouldn't have been given to other clubs. If Ferguson say Fryers is a £6m player, it's very likely that a tribunal would come to same (or close to the same) conclusion. We opted out and was lucky to see him wanting to return to England after his belgian spell.
Like Djemba Djemba, Massimo Taibi, et al.
Definitely the leading authority on who is good and who isn't.
 
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