The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 4 August 2011

Mr Pink said:

So we have;

POTL saying massive work going in to secure blue (Adebayor)

Peanut saying Llorente is a non starter

Ben saying nothing happening with Adebayor at the moment, more chance with Llorente.

hmmm....:think: (3 biggest ITKs)

Something doesn't really add up - which makes it a bit depressing, unless we manage to get one of these guys :grin:

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cockeral said:

But didn't Peanut originally say that we were after Llorente so it seems even the best ITKs contradict themselves.

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Shepspurs said:

If Peanut issued his ITK via the goat, would it be termed as Peanut Butter?



I'll get me coat

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mill said:

TBH I think I'd rather we went after some more realistic targets earlier on in the window got them in early and let them settle in the squad than wait to the last couple of weeks and risk ending up with nothing again.

The fact we can't shift hardly anyone from our squad has more than likely had an effect on this

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Paxtonite said:

:stupid:

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nailsy said:

I can see where you're coming from, but would you really be happy if we'd signed someone like Doyle or Rodallega a few weeks ago? If we'd done that there would be a hundred people on here saying we lack ambition.

Despite the fact that they couldn't hit the net last year we do have good strikers at the club. Keep trying for the big names and we may just end up with a great striker or two.

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Clamour_Kid said:

Llorente flying in to London tomorrow!

;o)

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Supersi32 said:

Peanut says Llorente is a non starter and BEN says we have more chance of Llorente than Adeybayor at the moment....That doesn`t bode well.

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Supersi32 said:

Peanut says Llorente is a non starter and BEN says we have more chance of Llorente than Adeybayor at the moment....That doesn`t bode well.

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Shepspurs said:

If Peanut issued his ITK via the goat, would it be termed as Peanut Butter?



I'll get me Goat

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bomberH said:

Which goes to show, it's pretty much all bollocks.

If only the pinch of salt was actually taken by most on here, but it hardly ever is. Today was a prime example - medical now! Wooooo. No medical. Booooo. No chance of signing him, wages - Boooooooooooooooo. Llorente possible target now - Wooooooo. No chance of Llorente - Boooooo. Oh look, there's a cow - Moooooooooo.

All that's without the Kaka's and the Eto'o's and lots of people still get excited and believe everything they hear even though time after time, it's proven never to come off, for whatever reason. I know it can be fun, but it's also pretty unbelievable how some completely rely on these posts to decide who they're loving (Ben/POTL etc) or hating (Harry/Levy) that day.

Every proper ITK has a different source. All the sources tell their mates something different. That means their info will contradict other ITK info and you end up having to rely on who has the best record. And today, 2 of the best ITK's have proved that even this paragraph is incorrect.

But still. It can be fun.

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bomberH said:

Which goes to show, it's pretty much all bollocks.

If only the pinch of salt was actually taken by most on here, but it hardly ever is. Today was a prime example - medical now! Wooooo. No medical. Booooo. No chance of signing him, wages - Boooooooooooooooo. Llorente possible target now - Wooooooo. No chance of Llorente - Boooooo. Oh look, there's a cow - Moooooooooo.

All that's without the Kaka's and the Eto'o's and lots of people still get excited and believe everything they hear even though time after time, it's proven never to come off, for whatever reason. I know it can be fun, but it's also pretty unbelievable how some completely rely on these posts to decide who they're loving (Ben/POTL etc) or hating (Harry/Levy) that day.

Every proper ITK has a different source. All the sources tell their mates something different. That means their info will contradict other ITK info and you end up having to rely on who has the best record. And today, 2 of the best ITK's have proved that even this paragraph is incorrect.

But still. It can be fun.

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bomberH said:

Which goes to show, it's pretty much all bollocks.

If only the pinch of salt was actually taken by most on here, but it hardly ever is. Today was a prime example - medical now! Wooooo. No medical. Booooo. No chance of signing him, wages - Boooooooooooooooo. Llorente possible target now - Wooooooo. No chance of Llorente - Boooooo. Oh look, there's a cow - Moooooooooo.

All that's without the Kaka's and the Eto'o's and lots of people still get excited and believe everything they hear even though time after time, it's proven never to come off, for whatever reason. I know it can be fun, but it's also pretty unbelievable how some completely rely on these posts to decide who they're loving (Ben/POTL etc) or hating (Harry/Levy) that day.

Every proper ITK has a different source. All the sources tell their mates something different. That means their info will contradict other ITK info and you end up having to rely on who has the best record. And today, 2 of the best ITK's have proved that even this paragraph is incorrect.

But still. It can be fun.

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DoublePivot said:

It all goes back to the rules I posted the other day. In order to compete we need to look at 19-24 year olds, from smaller teams. They are paid less, they have physically grown (unlike a 17-18 year old) to the point you can determine pace, physicality. They can still be taught. They don't cost as much and they are easier to then replace when a big club comes in for them (until we get that stadium).

Thus Llorente is 26 and is at the top of his valuation
Rossi right on the cusp so very expensive
Adebayor is 27, has no upsale and is at the top of wage pyramid
Eto'o is 30 and has huge wages
Falcao is 25 and will demand massive fee and wages

And granted Rossi fits as does Leandro (but that deal may still be on )

19 to 24. Yes they may not make it, but if they do, you've gambled less. For fractions of the price of these we could have had so many players. Especially at F, where Luuk de Jong, Toivenen, Derdiyok, Kalinic, Hernandez are all decent shouts. Not perfect, and not even a list that shouldn't be easily trumped by our scouts, but examples. And who's to say that one of them will adjust any worse or better than Llorente might.

That being said, I have no issue with 16-18 year olds, but there chances are slightly less as they are not fully grown. And the odd older player is fine when you can get a deal. But nobody we have talked about is a bargain.

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mill said:

yeah but that's why I put the second part in, if we could've shifted two strikers and got one who's got potential but no £100k a week superstar we could've spent the rest of the window chasing one and if we failed in getting one at least we would have had someone that could be an improvement, or at least freshened up the attack if we're not careful we'll end up with nothing again. Shame leandro never came off.

Being unable to shift deadwood could prove very costly

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mill said:

Fixed

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nailsy said:

Great post DP. The only thing I would say is that there aren't too many 16-18 year olds that would get into our team. The ones that would are very expensive.



I'm sure we have a list of players who are more realistic that we've inquired about and would be confident of signing. Some of these players would probably already know some of our current squad so would need less settling in time.. Huntelaar, has played with VDV, Leandro with Sandro, Eduardo with Modric etc.

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