The Daily ITK Discussion thread 11th June 2012
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He decent stuff before he was denied money for half a dozen years and had the team he built systematically asset-stripped.
It is a mythos that his team plays universally dour stuff.
He gets a team, including quite a few youth players, playing and getting results, even agains the top teams in the country (oh if only, eh
), by a keen sense of team-spirit - one of our prized assets, ATM.
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But does months ago really warrant comment in the daily discussion thread? If it was open ended we could still be discussing Torres joining us
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He decent stuff before he was denied money for half a dozen years and had the team he built systematically asset-stripped.
It is a mythos that his team plays universally dour stuff.
He gets a team, including quite a few youth players, playing and getting results, even agains the top teams in the country (oh if only, eh
Sure thats an ok argument for why he is a decent manger. We are already better than a decent team under HR. We are a very good team. You haven't helped me believe that Moyes replacing Harry would be a step forward.
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There was someone that posted that we were gonna meet with Capello's son...
If Moyes is one being considered, aren't we allowed to build on the discussion? (i'm only asking...no disrespect)
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im confused!!! an itk or some geezer says harry will be sacked today 10000000% etc, fare enough might be a day or 2 late, or even week!! the geezer gets blasted, even by the goats cryptic shit...yet now the goat reckons himself he might be off!..have i missed something or have people kissed and made up now.
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Then you aren't going to be persuaded.
The best I can do is give you an indication that the mythos of dour football isn't 100% based on observation, that he can get teams playing good football, can get results against the biggest teams, can generate genuine team spirit, is astute in the transfer market, loyal, ambitious, exacting and will crack a few heads in regard to making some of our lot fitter and harder working. He is also prepared to promote through the ranks, utilising youth product, and, uses the squad more effectively than some managers. All of these things would, insofar as I can tell, either continue with our strnegths or add qualities we, mostly, all know we are lacaking.
But he could be a massive flop - no-one really knows how these things will work out. So, if you want to say that you are not convinced then I am sure that if I told you he had various utensils, inspector gadget-like, under his coat, controls several Swiss banks, is a member of the mafia and has all match officials in his pocket, I'm sure you would still find reasons to be against him.
Dim probs
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Torres is joining us?
How dare you even respond to that post by Ever. That son of toad created "Dave" Iaquinta and failed to use it properly. How dare he, of all people, go for a Torres reference. I haven't felt this betrayed since we installed that mirror over the bed and I caught my wife riding some ugly fat guy.
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Then you aren't going to be persuaded.
The best I can do is give you an indication that the mythos of dour football isn't 100% based on observation, that he can get teams playing good football, can get results against the biggest teams, can generate genuine team spirit, is astute in the transfer market, loyal, ambitious, exacting and will crack a few heads in regard to making some of our lot fitter and harder working. He is also prepared to promote through the ranks, utilising youth product, and, uses the squad more effectively than some managers. All of these things would, insofar as I can tell, either continue with our strnegths or add qualities we, mostly, all know we are lacaking.
But he could be a massive flop - no-one really knows how these things will work out. So, if you want to say that you are not convinced then I am sure that if I told you he had various utensils, inspector gadget-like, under his coat, controls several Swiss banks, is a member of the mafia and has all match officials in his pocket, I'm sure you would still find reasons to be against him.
Dim probs
Wait, you really think Everton play good football? Moyes has never been a manager who puts out a team thats plays good football, he's a conservative manager who prefers his team to be organised and play boring football. For all of the musings about Moyes being able to make Everton punch above their weight, he's only done that in one season, every other season Everton have either flattered to deceive or have been right about where their talent says they should be.
He is not a step-forward, his track record is not of a man who would take us from top 4 contenders to title-winners. His whole footballing philosophy is the Anti-Spurs, I have no doubt in my mind that he'd be a failure if he managed us. He's just not a good fit for us.
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It's just a typical Spurs transfer window
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Er...I'm sorry if I've confused you about this. I have connections to Evertona nd watch them quite a lot. I am aware that Moyes can be a pragmatist, in a way that may have wished our manager(s) would have been at times. But, yes, particularly before he was denied any money for squad building, while having the team he had built systematically asset-stripped, they have also played some good football. Even after this process began, including last year, they play some good football. If you want to just believe the mythos that Everton under Moyes, play dour football, you go ahead and do that. If you watch them as much as I do, and you are saying they never play any good football, then I really don't know what to say to you.
Not so sure anyone could make us title contenders until our stadium is built.
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I've definitely developed the opinion that Everton have had their team 'systematically asset-stripped'; it's almost as if someone keeps writing it and I keep reading it...
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