David Villa signs for Atletico Madrid

CowInAComa · Jul 8, 2013

In all honesty he probably just saw our hideous new kit. Dont blame him.

Lucky Paulinho is already signed on the line.

Blake Griffin · Jul 8, 2013

CowInAComa said:
You arent a fan of Paulinho huh.

not based on the confederations cup games, no. but it's a small sample size.

robp135 · Jul 8, 2013

To be honest I was never that excited about Villa. Was a big fee for an injury prone forward thats in his 30s.

Benteke & Damiao please.

Mr Pink · Jul 8, 2013

Blake Griffin said:
i'll be honest here. i think it's clear (if we were actually in for villa) that he's just flat out chose atletico over us, nothing else. my problem is that spurs need a striker, we have needed a striker for years, everyone knows we need a striker. yet here we are, still needing a striker and we've just spent a large chunk of our budget on a midfielder we didn't desperately need. does signing paulinho for 17m have any impact on our striker targets? hopefully not, but to me, signing paulinho for such a big fee makes it less likely we're going to fill the positions we urgently need(lf, cf) with the quality of player needed.

if you'd asked me a few weeks ago whether it's possible we could sign say bernard and benteke this summer for example, i'd've said yeah, it'll be difficult but it's doable. now i just don't see it happening.

Well that's a better way to put your point across for a start!

I know where you're coming from, but I'm not sure Levy approaches the market like that - or its that simple, it rarely is. In other words one potential deal may not affect another the way we might think. Furthermore we don't even know what our budget is, although I grant you its eaten well into it...we ain't exactly Man City.

Levy will approach deals the same way he always does. Try and get the best possible terms possible, sounds obvious but true, and if its right for the Club he'll do it.

In terms of Paulinho I'm really not surprised we splashed out for him. Firstly, he looks a fantastic all round midfielder. He's youngish, playing for the Brazil national side and honestly I'm impressed that we've managed to get a player of that ilk and standing in. Sometimes when you have an opportunity like this you have to take it. I know you're not convinced, but I am.

Secondly, although we look extremely strong in the midfield department it could be a slightly more precarious position than we think. Parker is going to be moved on and I think that's the right call. He wasn't the same level as his first season and he's not getting any younger. Sandro has had a severe injury and Dembele's injury problems are becoming a little chronic in nature even if we don't know the full extent of such.

My point is that Paulinho, or a midfielder of that sort of ability was needed I reckon. Obviously we all want a new forward and we hope this hasn't impacted on our capacity to acquire one (and one of the required level of ability)...not a Saha deadline day special.

I don't think it will though. We have the money from the new TV deals etc...determined enough to keep Bale etc. My bet is we'll get a good forward in but, typically, it will be late on in the window.

TottenhamMattSpur · Jul 8, 2013

robp135 said:
To be honest I was never that excited about Villa. Was a big fee for an injury prone forward thats in his 30s.

Benteke & Damiao please.

How on Earth is one broken leg injury prone?

I'm pretty sure most of our squad especially our forwards are substantially more injury probe than Villa.

Misfit · Jul 8, 2013

Gutted about this. Even if the guy was in his 60's and with a dodgy hip 5m euros would be a great price.

Shea · Jul 8, 2013

Well it means he doesn't have to leave Spain - AM probably pay a better wage than we would have (or at least matched ours) and have Champions League football to offer

They got a great player for a great price I think - would have been great to have someone of his profile at the club but I'm not personally downbeat because without meaning to sound disrespectful to our ITK's I never actually believed he would sign for us or that we were close to signing him and I always thought we'd end up looking stupid like the Rivaldo situation

Anyway - on to the next one, I hope this window the club knows what they are doing and gets things down instead of chasing fairy tale signings we will fall short of while missing out on attainable targets and ending up empty handed when the window slams shut

alan brazil · Jul 8, 2013

robp135 said:
To be honest I was never that excited about Villa. Was a big fee for an injury prone forward thats in his 30s.

Benteke & Damiao please.

A big fee? He just went for peanuts, injury prone? Other than his recent broken leg he hadn't had that many bad injuries.
As for damiao, he is unproven in Europe, and had a poor season in Brazil (8 goals this season I believe)
Benteke would be a gamble too, although what I have seen of him I would take that gamble.

hutchiniho · Jul 8, 2013

4.4million even for a season or two is surely worth a gamble. Everton just signed Kone for more!

Misfit · Jul 8, 2013

It's not even a case of blaming the club, imo. For the fee that has been released, we'd have paid that without hesitation. We had agreed in principle personal terms by all accounts from the ITKs. Nup, Villa just fancied a bit of Atletico.

Bugger it.

alan brazil · Jul 8, 2013

hutchiniho said:
4.4million even for a season or two is surely worth a gamble. Everton just signed Kone for more!

Sorry, went to agree but pressed wrong one

archiewasking · Jul 8, 2013

Really gutted tbh. So much ITK, all pointing the same way. Then splat, dreams squished flat.

All we need now is for the Gooners to tie up Higuain and off they disappear over the metaphorical horizon again.

Yes, there's months to go. But if we put in all the work to make it happen and it still went boobies in the air, it feels like the same old same old story unfolding again.

worcestersauce · Jul 8, 2013

So has David Villa said he's going to Atletico, not all clubs are like ours and put things out on their web site only when everything is done, they may be trying to force the issue, maybe Levy knew about the Atletico deal and thats why he wouldn't pay the higher price
I'd come to accept him over the last few weeks even though I remained underwhelmed from the start, we should be looking for a striker long term so if he doesn't come it's a shame and I'll be disappointed now but I'll still sleep soundly tonight.
Or maybe Atletico need him as a replacement as we've just bought Falcao

kitchen · Jul 8, 2013

Mr Pink said:
Well that's a better way to put your point across for a start!

I know where you're coming from, but I'm not sure Levy approaches the market like that - or its that simple, it rarely is. In other words one potential deal may not affect another the way we might think. Furthermore we don't even know what our budget is, although I grant you its eaten well into it...we ain't exactly Man City.

Levy will approach deals the same way he always does. Try and get the best possible terms possible, sounds obvious but true, and if its right for the Club he'll do it.

In terms of Paulinho I'm really not surprised we splashed out for him. Firstly, he looks a fantastic all round midfielder. He's youngish, playing for the Brazil national side and honestly I'm impressed that we've managed to get a player of that ilk and standing in. Sometimes when you have an opportunity like this you have to take it. I know you're not convinced, but I am.

Secondly, although we look extremely strong in the midfield department it could be a slightly more precarious position than we think. Parker is going to be moved on and I think that's the right call. He wasn't the same level as his first season and he's not getting any younger. Sandro has had a severe injury and Dembele's injury problems are becoming a little chronic in nature even if we don't know the full extent of such.

My point is that Paulinho, or a midfielder of that sort of ability was needed I reckon. Obviously we all want a new forward and we hope this hasn't impacted on our capacity to acquire one (and one of the required level of ability)...not a Saha deadline day special.

I don't think it will though. We have the money from the new TV deals etc...determined enough to keep Bale etc. My bet is we'll get a good forward in but, typically, it will be late on in the window.

Agree with all of this, but in terms of attainable strikers that are better than what we have, there aren't a lot of options left IMO

Benteke's still a risk, and could prove to be a one season wonder playing for a team where he has more space to play than he will inevitably get for us against 'park the bus' tactics. Soldado's quality but signs are that Valencia want big money for him. Same with Jackson Martinez and Porto. Negredo's going to City, Gomez is going to Fiorentina, Higuain's probably going to the scum.

Our only other option is to unearth a new gem. If it were that easy, we'd have had this striker situation sorted a long time ago.

Whilst I'm sure that he simply chose Atletico over us, not getting Villa could prove to be a massive kick in the teeth.

mpickard2087 · Jul 8, 2013

Misfit said:
It's not even a case of blaming the club, imo. For the fee that has been released, we'd have paid that without hesitation. We had agreed in principle personal terms by all accounts from the ITKs. Nup, Villa just fancied a bit of Atletico.

Bugger it.

No no no no no.... The great and good of SC have already decided... LEVY IS AT FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ONE

USAYID · Jul 8, 2013

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but that may be why we are seeing all this talk about Benteke now.

JUSTINSIGNAL · Jul 8, 2013

I don't see why Levy is being at all. Villa has simply chosen to sign for a club that is bigger and better than ours.

Mr Pink · Jul 8, 2013

kitchen said:
Agree with all of this, but in terms of attainable strikers that are better than what we have, there aren't a lot of options left IMO

Benteke's still a risk, and could prove to be a one season wonder playing for a team where he has more space to play than he will inevitably get for us against 'park the bus' tactics. Soldado's quality but signs are that Valencia want big money for him. Same with Jackson Martinez and Porto. Negredo's going to City, Gomez is going to Fiorentina, Higuain's probably going to the scum.

Our only other option is to unearth a new gem. If it were that easy, we'd have had this striker situation sorted a long time ago.

Whilst I'm sure that he simply chose Atletico over us, not getting Villa could prove to be a massive kick in the teeth.

Yep not easy and you're quite right they all represent a risk.

Personally though mate I would go for Benteke. Just love the way he bullied defenders last season - he isn't going to lose that physical ability, and his link up play was also very impressive. He's just more powerful and aggressive than Ade, and personally I think his link up play is just as good.

He's young, value is protected, and wages won't be obscene. He'd be my choice despite a high asking fee.

worcestersauce · Jul 8, 2013

I really don't think Benteke is a risk guys he'll score goals consistently throughout his career, the only debate is whether he becomes a very good consistent premiership striker or nearer to the quality of Drogba either way he'll be worthwhile.
Could somebody enlighten me as to where this £4.4 million figure came from? I'm absolutely certain we did not refuse to meet that price.

guiltyparty · Jul 8, 2013

TottenhamMattSpur said:
How on Earth is one broken leg injury prone?

I'm pretty sure most of our squad especially our forwards are substantially more injury probe than Villa.

Modric broke his leg, didn't he?

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