The Weekend ITK Discussion Thread - 20/21 July 2013

mil1lion · Jul 20, 2013

So we weren't close to signing Villa even though the player himself admitted it was close to happening up until Atletico came in for him? Some people really do set themselves up at times.

I still think we'll end up going back to Internacional with our tales between our legs. We probably thought we could walk away from the deal and go get someone else but it doesn't seem likely to happen.

Really not sure what to think of Bernard either. Can we really afford the top striker we need AND Bernard? If so then it would be incredible to get both. I just can't see it.

Angel Eyes · Jul 20, 2013

EnfieldYiddo said:
September 2nd can't come fast enough for me

I say the same thing about my missus.

Moonie · Jul 20, 2013

AX-Spur said:
And you know Mido said we would move for Osvaldo if we missed out on Villa... Player (ex) ITK is the best!

Well remembered, on the site that dare not speaketh it's name, on the 2nd June he was singing Baldinis praises and says "I think baldini will go after Oscaldo if he can't get Villa"

I may T*eet Mido and see If I can get him to join SC!!! Ha!

Spurrific · Jul 20, 2013

£13m and Gomes sounds a bit low. What would Gomes' market value even be?

beats1 · Jul 20, 2013

Spurrific said:
£13m and Gomes sounds a bit low. What would Gomes' market value even be?

No way more than £5mill

Mullers · Jul 20, 2013

Spurrific said:
£13m and Gomes sounds a bit low. What would Gomes' market value even be?

Around 2 million.

beats1 · Jul 20, 2013

Mullers said:
Around 2 million.

It depends who we are selling to as well as in
Germany and Holland he has a good reputation
In England he is a clown

Spurrific · Jul 20, 2013

beats1 said:
It depends who we are selling to as well as in
Germany and Holland he has a good reputation
In England he is a clown

I think he'll end up back at PSV, their fans seem desperate for him to return. Don't know what sort of cashola they'd chuck at us though.

CoopsieDeadpool · Jul 20, 2013

mil1lion said:
So we weren't close to signing Villa even though the player himself admitted it was close to happening up until Atletico came in for him? Some people really do set themselves up at times.

I still think we'll end up going back to Internacional with our tales between our legs. We probably thought we could walk away from the deal and go get someone else but it doesn't seem likely to happen.

Really not sure what to think of Bernard either. Can we really afford the top striker we need AND Bernard? If so then it would be incredible to get both. I just can't see it.

Did he really? I remember him saying something like "the plan was to go to the PL but then Atletico came in" etc etc. I haven't seen a single quote that he has named us in, though? Not being argumentative, mate. It's just that we weren't the only PL club interested in him and, as I said, I don't think he has named us once?

Snarfalicious · Jul 20, 2013

I have a hard time believing we will be able to conclude a deal with Gomes going to them in it. I think player swap deals are such bullshit usually so I have my doubts. And, if we want to include Gomes, it'd have to be because Mineiro absolutely want him as they will get their valuation for Bernard met by someone else most likely.

Mr Pink · Jul 20, 2013

So basically the latest ITK is saying we will sign a striker but it will happen at the end of window in all likelihood.

What sort of fee would Osvaldo command, roughly?

Mullers · Jul 20, 2013

beats1 said:
It depends who we are selling to as well as in
Germany and Holland he has a good reputation
In England he is a clown

He had a good reptutation, no one in Germany or Holland will pay 5 mill for him.

Mr Pink · Jul 20, 2013

mil1lion said:
So we weren't close to signing Villa even though the player himself admitted it was close to happening up until Atletico came in for him? Some people really do set themselves up at times.

I still think we'll end up going back to Internacional with our tales between our legs. We probably thought we could walk away from the deal and go get someone else but it doesn't seem likely to happen.

Really not sure what to think of Bernard either. Can we really afford the top striker we need AND Bernard? If so then it would be incredible to get both. I just can't see it.

I thought he said that Atletico did more in three days than another unnamed Club did in months - which everybody assumed to be us. It probably was us, but that tallies up as well....fucking about with a little mild interest but were never sold on the idea collectively down at WHL.

spurslenny · Jul 20, 2013

If that bid is to be believed, it just illustrates how unbelievably ridiculous our transfer strategy is.

If this kid is as good as everyone says he is, we should just go in hard on a one off splurge and say '£20 mil, take it or leave it' ala how the much fabled Modric deal was pulled off.

Oshi · Jul 20, 2013

Mr Pink said:
So basically the latest ITK is saying we will sign a striker but it will happen at the end of window in all likelihood.

What sort of fee would Osvaldo command, roughly?

There were strong rumours of him going to Atletico Madrid for 18million euros, I'm sure his agent was gobbing off about it... Then they got Villa on the dirt cheap.

beats1 · Jul 20, 2013

Mullers said:
He had a good reptutation, no one in Germany or Holland will pay 5 mill for him.

Still has but I agree no one would want to pay that much but I think Levy would ask for that much

CoopsieDeadpool · Jul 20, 2013

Snarfalicious said:
I have a hard time believing we will be able to conclude a deal with Gomes going to them in it. I think player swap deals are such bullshit usually so I have my doubts. And, if we want to include Gomes, it'd have to be because Mineiro absolutely want him as they will get their valuation for Bernard met by someone else most likely.

I am 100% certain that very early ITK quoted somebody as saying that Mineiro would only deal with us if they could have Gomes in any deal.

Mullers · Jul 20, 2013

spurslenny said:
If that bid is to be believed, it just illustrates how unbelievably ridiculous our transfer strategy is.

If this kid is as good as everyone says he is, we should just go in hard on a one off splurge and say '£20 mil, take it or leave it' ala how the much fabled Modric deal was pulled off.

Any other deals where that has worked?

Mr Pink · Jul 20, 2013

coopsieyid said:
I am 100% certain that very early ITK quoted somebody as saying that Mineiro would only deal with us if they could have Gomes in any deal.

Interesting if correct.

Gedson100 · Jul 20, 2013

They can definitely have Gomes in any deal they fucking like.

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